| This is a discussion on "No Showdown Wins" will help keep money in your bankroll!! within the online poker forums, in the Cash Games section; What does it take to NOT see a showdown and still take the pot. I went on a search and found a an article that ... |
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Thanks Hillbilly........... I have read a lot of your posts and followed your comments for a while now. And through it all, I have to say that I really do respect yours and other more experienced online players opinions and insight from CC. However, I would really like a bit more detail on the subject if you have any. I mean under what conditions do you 'really,' "Bet, Bet, Bet and Never Fold!?" How do you play against tactics like defensive bets and when do you put the other guy on a hand that's ahead of you? How do you plug your holes to make your red line go in the right direction? Was your redline always in the up position? What do/did you focus on?? |
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| re: "No Showdown Wins" will help keep money in your bankroll!! poker Well the never fold stuff was kind of a joke but if you don't fold and bet/raise at every opp you'll be a huge loser with a awesome redline. I do double/triple barrel a lot, too much actually. At smaller stakes, people fold too much even after committing large portions of their stacks, so I profit from this by just betting until they fold. When they don't fold I lose whole stacks (and the blueline drops). When they do fold the reline goes up. I've always had a positive redline. At 25nl (50K hands) both my red and blue lines were very positive (5.5BB/100). At 50nl (190K hands) my redline is positive, blue slightly negative, overall positive (3BB/100). At 100nl (50K hands) my redline is positive, blueline negative, overall negative (-2.8BB/100). So I guess what I'm saying is being overly aggressive and betting til they fold works best when your opponents don't hand read well and get scared when faced with big bets. When your opponents are mildly aware that you have cards too my style breaks down and I start spewing. I'm working on it though. |
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| Thanks Hillbilly........ I seem to have a bigger problem of identifying my opponents. So I am now composing a list of questions and plan to read them before making any moves for a day or 2 until I actually remember them and can make better decisions without them. Any suggestions for that? I run HEM so my questions will more geared to what I should be noticing already, like besides is he tight or aggressive...... I will be asking myself things like, has he been mixing it up, or has he been playing the same standards. Is he one that likes to trap of is he weak? Then I want to make sure I ask.... Are the limping, folding, raising, reraising, checking it down, check-raising, slow playing big hands and playing weak ones, are they over betting or value betting, do they defensive bet, and what are the amounts when they bet in these styles? |
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| I read this article, and initially I didn't think much of it. Since I don't use stat trackers and don't keep track of my "redline", that part I pretty much ignored. But, I did read through the tips, because I never know when I might find a good idea. I do keep track of my stats within a session, and I noticed the last few sessions that I have been fewer showdowns, but more pots on the turn and river before showdown. It looks like I have started playing my hands more aggressively in the later stages, and it is paying off. Most of the lost showdowns are people who catch their card on the river. Thanks for the article. |
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| I enoyed this article. I keep a notebook for my poker stats, how do you like those tracking programs, you mentioned two, which one do you prefer? I agree with this thought process though. I don't understand how people can see so many hands and not make moves. I think confidence and risk management is a direct reason why they will have a "downward line". |
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| already readed this on other site, great to see new info how thinks "pro". Today watched some of wcoop main events and there player with name "djk123" is owning. he had already won 2 events: horse and razz, and chipleader on main event with 10million prize pool, sick how he is playing to get in this ultra mega cash, no wonder why comentators is saying that he is supernovahot player p.s. all wcoop events can see on http://pokerstars.tv |
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| re: "No Showdown Wins" will help keep money in your bankroll!! poker Quote:
The point of it being an article by Daniel Skolovy was not being hidden by me. I even addressed that point in the original post. Quote:
CardsChat is a great place to review information! Poker subjects are discussed in WAY more detail here than any other place on the internet. It is for this reason that I posted it here and asked for more information. However, just directing people to the original post was something I was under the impression that I could not do. In the past I have entered Hyperlinks to outside articles just to see them removed by the mods. So I didn't do that this time....... I simply wanted more information on the subject as I pointed out in the beginning of the post. |
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| And to be on topic, I personally feel the relationship between SD winnings and NSD winnings is quite interesting, but I would rather be able to shift my playstyle wildly and dynamically based on the circumstances at hand than to cultivate a particular line on a graph. For example my NSD line might drop a bit if I am sitting at a table full of calling stations and maniacs whereas if I am playing with mostly players with a clue I imagine it should start picking up a little. I think Stick said it best (I paraphrase) the most important line is the bottom line. There are more than one way to play this game. |
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| Great article! Thanks for posting! I admit I give up a little too easily sometimes, but I do try to adjust based on who I'm playing. Quote:
-Dave |
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