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  Poker - % of flops seen
 
  #1  
02-04-2007, 10:52 PM
TS87
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% of flops seen

What is a good percentage for flops seen in a cash game and what is a good percentage of flops seen in a MTT or a single table SNG.

With all of these i usually end up seeing around 15 to 20 percent of flops.


what percent do you all see?
 

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  #2  
02-04-2007, 10:54 PM
alexanderwoo1
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It sometimes depends usually is between 8% to 15%.
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02-04-2007, 11:06 PM
skoldpadda
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alexanderwoo1
It sometimes depends usually is between 8% to 15%.
Whoa -super tight!! I think between 20-30% is a typical range. I tend to be around 20-25%
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02-04-2007, 11:32 PM
joosebuck
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there is no right answer to such a general question
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02-04-2007, 11:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joosebuck
there is no right answer to such a general question
While that is the right answer I try to see around 20%. I can still be doing good at 10% and 30% but I stay around 20%
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03-04-2007, 12:06 AM
shinedown.45
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I try to stay around 20-22% in cash games and SnGs and when it comes to MTTs I would have to say it all depends on the cards, the lowest Ive had is around 18% b/c of a bad run of cards.
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03-04-2007, 12:55 AM
redfish99999
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Also depends on ## of players

Most people will 'check' in on their big blind regardless of the hand if it is not expensive.....This counts toward the flop percentage......

Not considering BB and SB, my percentage is about 10 -15 %......
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03-04-2007, 2:52 AM
joosebuck
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that's why you get PT and track your VP$IP instead.
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03-04-2007, 3:40 AM
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I got to think that anything over 40% is too much, and anything under 15% is too little.

Almost automatically you are gonna see 10% because of the blinds.

But then there are those session where 60% is fine, the cards are flowing like wine, the women are singing and everyone is naked..... Oh, not omaha, strip!....oops!
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03-04-2007, 3:42 AM
ChuckTs
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Depends depends depends.....

If you've got a table that isn't playing anything but AA/KK/AK, then %40 would be way too low, and vise versa etc.

Completely dependent on your table.
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03-04-2007, 10:23 AM
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oh so many factors to consider

In a nutshell though, for me it depends mainly on stakes.

At higher stakes ring games, I play really tight and see less than 20% of the flops more like 15%. In low stakes, I play looser and see about 30% of hands, unless I am playing micro tables - and since those dudes call anything, I stick to premium cards again.

In tournies while blinds are low I will see more flops (30%ish) and tighten up as blinds increase providing my stack keeps pace - if ya short stacked ya gotta take more risks.
  #12  
03-04-2007, 11:44 AM
tiltboy
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Table conditions and cards determine my percentage. On average looking at my stats im usually 20-25%.

Last night i was about 40% as one guy was going all in on the flop regardless of what he had after flat calling preflop - he was on serious tilit so i wanted to see many flops hoping to double up if i hit hard.
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04-04-2007, 6:43 AM
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Anyone care to give a stat on vp$ip over say, 10k+ hands (ring/cash game)?

What to you consider the line to be between TAG and LAG?
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04-04-2007, 5:02 PM
Seneku
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I'm playing low stakes SnG and I usually see about 20% of the flops (including BB).
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05-04-2007, 4:54 PM
Riedel
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It depends what I'm playing. ~ 20-25% if I'm playing a full (10) table. But I play a lot of shorthanded (6) SNGs as well. I see a lot more flops on those :-)
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05-04-2007, 5:36 PM
F Paulsson
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aliengenius
Anyone care to give a stat on vp$ip over say, 10k+ hands (ring/cash game)?

What to you consider the line to be between TAG and LAG?
I only play shorthanded, so keep that in mind.

I'm 23/14 in NL, and 26/18 for limit. I've played a decent amount of hands HU at limit as well, so the numbers are skewed up a bit from that.

I consider a VP$IP below 20% to be tight in a 6-max limit game. I consider a VP$IP over 30% to be loose. The sweetspot is somewhere in the middle, but table conditions and postflop skills affect the more precise location.
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09-04-2007, 4:58 AM
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there is no right or wronge answere to this.... depending on ur play style, limit, and luck of card ur getting you will always have a diferent percent of flops seen.... tonight ive seen 47% of flops.... thats out of 664 hand... wow.... ive played alot tonight.... lol i just reset that 2 hours ago...
 

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