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Sklansky-Chubukov chart says shoving K2o is profitable in 10bb or less effective stacks.
All people knows S-C shove nowadays. It's 2014 poker and not 2008 . You'll be called with a wider range on this since you are also viewed as in wider range (shoving any 2 cards).
How many are left etc? Is the guy fishy, has he been tight etc, if this guy is a fishy spewer, then he might think its ok to call with QJ or any pictures.. but it also depends where you are in the tourney and how many are left i think..
just the 5 in the picture and payouts are so flat u have to scroll across to see them
Yeah, my bad... I mean, i cant see it getting past the big stack on the button, if it did for whatever reason, then jamming might be ok, but he knows you should be jamming most cards there, so maybe hes gonna call wider than you would hope... any ace and any king are ahead, and youre 60/40 with hands like QJ,Q10 etc if he wants to get a bit out of line...
Also, theres like a 50% jump in between each payment...
The bigstack has 4x what you have, but youre all pretty shallow, so depends how good your heads up play is i guess. Raise fold is pretty grim line here, but id back myself ICM wise to find a better position here... Especially without a read on BB.
Thanks for explantionWell, K2o, is 50.5% against any random hand. What do you think the minimum is he would call with?
If he calls with 66+,A2s+,K9s+,QTs+,JTs,A8o+,KTo+,QJo which may be a little wider than you would hope... (its 18%) then youre 31% favourite.
If we take out a little of his range: 66+,A8s+,KTs+,QJs,JTs,ATo+,KTo+ then youre dropping to 29%.
Average 30% favourite when he calls. Which gives you 14500*0.3= +4350
I guess hes calling 18% of the time, so he folds 82% of the time = +1700.
(0.82*1700)+(0.06*14500)-(0.12*7000)= +1424
If i have done the maths right, then it looks like a positive shove...
Thanks for explantion
Geez lots of numbers, think at end of day more come down to feel and approximations as way to complex to calculate at the table.
Thanks for explantion
Geez lots of numbers, think at end of day more come down to feel and approximations as way to complex to calculate at the table.
When YOU are not desperate, NEVER shove K2. It is just bad. Especially in a spot where you are almost always getting called. For Pete's sake do not 3bet shove with it vs an early position raise that likely pot committed the original raiser. Also, shove/ call charts are made with BAD assumptions. Competent players are NOT putting their money in bad anywhere near as often as it is assumed.