Would you go all in the itm bubble with AA since you already have two players in all
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valeski 28
Legend
Loyaler
It depends on the buy in of the tournament because it´s different being the bubble in a $0.55 tourney and being eliminated in the Sunday Million.(you won the ticket playing a satellite).In the first case, of course I´d go all in but in the second one I´d fold the hand.
Ronaldo7
Visionary
Silver Level
On satty bubble i am folding withouth looking if there is 3-4 players with lower stack than me...
DampflokTV
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Well i think it really depends on multiple aspects of the game.
In the early phase of the game you want to get rid of people but you do not want to get busted with a runner runner flush.
Also important is your chipstack. Have less then 10 to 15 BB? Go for it!!
But in early game with enaough BB? Just fold .... you have so many chances to get them later ....
In the early phase of the game you want to get rid of people but you do not want to get busted with a runner runner flush.
Also important is your chipstack. Have less then 10 to 15 BB? Go for it!!
But in early game with enaough BB? Just fold .... you have so many chances to get them later ....
Nr98
Visionary
Silver Level
Yes. Almost always I would recommend the all-in. Most of the time you would have a 65%-75% of tripling up with AA 3-way. Considering the fact that tournament prize structures are top heavy, the reward of going all-in (much better chance of a top finish in the MTT) is greater than the risk (getting bubbled).
Remember, a min-cash is usually only 1.5-2.2 times the buy-in which is not much more than the buy-in, but minuscule in comparison to the top 3 payouts.
That being said, in my opinion, there are very specific situations where you may want to lay AA down.
1) Satellite bubbles when you feel as though you would satellite through anyway. Here, the risk is high and the reward is minuscule since you would qualify anyway.
2) In a regular tournament, when you are super poor. This one is in my opinion. My reason for this is that even if you win the hand, your stack would still be very small, and as such, the value of your chips would still be lower than the value of the min. cash. By super poor, I mean your stack is lower than about half the starting stack size.
NOTE: Keep in mind, the answer to the question, like many questions, is context-dependent. It depends on things like prize pool structure, stack sizes, and how deep you are (i.e. how many big blinds you have, both in absolute terms and in relation to other people in the tournament).
BEST OF LUCK WITH THE GRIND!!!
Don't underestimate the effect an ITM bubble has mate. A mincash doesn't sound like much but it can have a considerable effect on the optimal play.
Having said that though, there is rarely a case where ICM is so strong that you'd fold AA pre. Completely agree with you on the two scenarios. Sattelites (a very flat payout structure) or having a tiny tiny stack (so very low added value in tripling up) are pretty much the only reasons you'd ever fold AA here
CDNMAN 42
Legend
Platinum Level
AA All-in?
Really, I dislike all-ins but they are part of the game. As for holding a monster and folding pre-flop, even to an all in..what would you call with? and if you can't call with AA maybe you should try checkers.
Really, I dislike all-ins but they are part of the game. As for holding a monster and folding pre-flop, even to an all in..what would you call with? and if you can't call with AA maybe you should try checkers.
Matt_Burns88
Legend
Loyaler
This is not complicated at all. Your aim is to win the whole tournament and if you're prepared to fold AA pre-flop on the bubble, then you will NEVER win. Say you have a average stack with around 40 people left. You go all in with AA. 2/3rds of the time you will triple up and become one of the tournament big stacks, knock out or cripple two other players and be in a really strong position to go deep and win serious money. Or you can pussy out and fold the best starting hand you can be dealt an watch your chip stack dwindle away for another minimum cash that you've spent 2 to 5 hours to get.
Go big or go home.
Go big or go home.
nuttea
Visionary
Bronze Level
What kind of a coin with a chipak are we talking about if we have AA and 80% + against any range of oppa? Why give advice to beginners at all if you yourself don't fully understand what you are talking about? The only option to fold AA preflop is a satellite, where let's say 11 players are left, 10 of them will get tickets. You are second and there are short stacks at the table, and chipak shoves at you. Well, you can also throw AA on the bubble of some expensive tournament for you, in which you made your way through a bunch of satellites, say, for 10k, but you couldn't join, and 10k for you is a lot of money several times higher than your bankroll.
el_soma77
Visionary
Silver Level
I'm going there so I lose, it's part of the game and you have to risk, I prefer to go for the first place than for the bubble.
poker is like the compass, if you don't know how to use it, it's better that you don't stay at home.
poker is like the compass, if you don't know how to use it, it's better that you don't stay at home.
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caracaski220
Visionary
Bronze Level
caracaski220
Absolutely . I want to make as many chips as I can at bubble time. My goal is not to make the money , it is to win the tournament. The chips of those 2 all in players will go a long way to helping me win the tourney.
Absolutely . I want to make as many chips as I can at bubble time. My goal is not to make the money , it is to win the tournament. The chips of those 2 all in players will go a long way to helping me win the tourney.
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samuri
Visionary
Platinum Level
All in ace acr
I find every time I do that to 2 already all in. I call and get beat 99 percent of the time with someone having 2 pair . Many times on the bubble. So now I just wait and put little in on ace ace
I find every time I do that to 2 already all in. I call and get beat 99 percent of the time with someone having 2 pair . Many times on the bubble. So now I just wait and put little in on ace ace
Luvepoker
Lost in the twilight zone
Community Guide
I am all in ever single time. I dont care about the cash I want to win. Now could I actually be in a situation where this may change? Probably but again I want to win. I might think about it if I was a top chip stack in a big time tournament and the one player is all in that has me covered I may have to at least think about it but that maybe the only time I dont go for it.
Miguel Chacon
Visionary
Silver Level
easy Aces preflop all in 100% of the time hehe... I rather double or triple my stack and fight for better prizes than secure a min cash and of course it depends on how many blinds we have me and the villains...:angel::smile::smile: