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February 18th, 2021 12:50 PM
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Most people play too tight at final tables so I think your instincts to play looser and pressure your opponents are great. Probably if you take it so far that you would describe your strategy as "suicidal," however, then you should tone it down slightly
Be aggressive and pressure risk-averse opponents but be willing to change gears when opponents start playing back at you or you're mid-stacked and benefit significantly from shorter stacks busting.
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Today I had a mistake, I had QQ and near the front man KK . I Loose All Chips
This is not a huge mistake. It depends on your position on the table. If you shove in beginning positions, you have bigger chances to face a coin flip. Sometimes worse.
It depends on the stakes of the players too.
But when you have QQ and someone shows AA or KK, it's just a question of luck. And it happens all the time in poker.
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Therefore, the first thing you should do is pick the weakest link at the table. Despite the fact that we have gathered a lot of information about the opponents for the final table, this may not be enough for you. Therefore, what you should immediately pay attention to is the size of the stacks, so that the opponent with the shortest stack immediately becomes a target for all players. But the most important thing in the final game is not being afraid to enter the pot, if it really is necessary, you cannot let your thoughts about the amount of prize money break your game.
Also at the final table you can meet opponents with low ROI and $ 100k in prize money won. Although these players have experience playing in MTT tournaments, they are quite reckless, so they will answer your all-in for the purpose of stealing. This type of player should only steal the blinds with strong cards. Do not forget to be guided by our notes and our own analysis of the game. After all, regardless of the statistics, many players who hit the final table for the first time begin to play in a completely different way.
I probably overplay ICM too much but I am big on seeing and continually keeping track of where my stack is compared to others at the final table. If I am a larger stack then you can usually pick on the middle stacks if you believe they know ICM since they will not want to go out with small stacks there. If I am a small stack with none or one smaller stack then I am looking to be aggressive and chip up. Being a middle stack is the hardest in my opinion as you need to know when it is correct to risk it for a big stack but not be knocked out when there are small stacks close to going out.
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Hello! It all depends on his own stack, if the villain has less stack than mine, then even on the middle hand I will go against his all-in, but in general it is better to watch the flop and evaluate your chances, it will be a shame if you lose to the small card after reaching the final.
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IMO - FT is all about position & how many bb you have compared to the other players.
Calling an all-in with QQ isn't a terrible suicidal play. If you were short stacked you have no choice in this spot, unless you have a strong constitution, and there are 3-4 shorter stacks than you. If you were big stacked - damn - that's a hard one, but opponent tendency can influence your decision here, if you have history with the player - you can know if he shoves light or tight.
Getting to the final table in any event to me is an accomplishment in itself. How I play depends on where I sit as far as my chip total vs others chip totals. As I said getting to the final table is great by itself.
Finally made final table, be wary of the sneak attack..
When I'm at the final table my thought is:" "I hope my luck holds, and nobody sneak-attacks me with 2 pair or trips." My other thought is, "playing long enough to make the final table is a lot more exhausting than I anticipated, it is super draining, mentally."
As others have said the final table is all about stack sizes and positions. So the first thing, I always do, is to take note of, where the bigger stacks relative to mine are sitting, and if there are short stacks, who are just about to bust. If 3 players have less than 10BB, and I have 25BB, then this is not the time, I want to collide with a big stack.
I also kind of like to lean back a little for the first hands to pick up some reads on the other players. Of course I am not folding a premium hand, but if I have some very marginal holdning, I might prefer to just let it go and let someone else collide first. After all you can not win the final table in the first 2-3 hands, but you can lose it. So this is not the time, where I will go for a light rejam with A4s against someone, who was just moved from the other table, so that I have no reads on him.
I think you can play a little looser and more aggressive on the final table because a lot of people are tense, so it's easy to take advantage of. But it's also worth changing the style of play here so they won't know you.
The final table is the pinnacle of many hours of struggle, it's great. I think it's impossible to do this without luck. I think really good thoughts about this only come at a very late stage of any tournament. Thinking about it in advance is not a good idea.. Of course, the strategy of the final table will necessarily differ from the game of the entire tournament. It is wrong to fold a lot of hands and only play all in.. The range should be very wide, as at the start of the tournament. But you should not enter the fight with a very high bid Of course, it is impossible to ignore your stack in the tournament, and if it is the smallest or lower than average, you can not play wide and aggressive, you only need to put all in unfortunately...
I've made the final table in a few tournaments. And the most tedious thing is dealing with fatigue. If the prize is not very big, I have risked too much, but more for the desire to finish than for the game. Sleep and fatigue are not good company for the poker player ...
Like others here I first look at the stack sizes and then the payouts. Generally the big money is in the top 3 spots so my goal is to reach the final 3. I try to avoid playing a hand against any monster stacks while I look for a chance to go after a medium stack. I think the medium stacks cause their owners to play with caution because they have a chance to make a pay jump. That makes them a good target for a raise.
While aggression is a must to reach to final 3 you also need to be willing to fold. I have folded QQ when 2 small stacks shoved and a monster stack followed up with a shove. Entering a 4 way pot for all my chips made no sense so I folded. The big stack had AK, flopped a K and took out the small stacks. We all increased our winnings by 2 jumps and I was still in the game.
If I am not the chip leader, what happens rarely on FTs, I play tight, yesterday, fall in the same mistake, I just doubled up, so hoped I can represent some strong hands and steal few more blinds, as everybody was under 20BB, I had more than the average stack, the short stack from mid position went allin (with 2BB that can be anything), so I went allin from the button with J9s, of course the BB had KK, and even got a KK10 flop.... these situations are quiet common for me, that is why i prefer to play tight, won less, but have more 2nd and 3rd place.... actually it is something like 30 wins, 80-85 2nd place, and around 80 3rd place.... I think, I would not have more money, if I would play the FTs differently, probably the stats would be different, but in this way less head ache, less swearing because of the 1-3 cards fall in rivers... and those are coming more often than you think...
I think then that I did a great job and it's time to win. The final tables are always going very well for me, I don't know why but I usually go to HU. Maybe because the focus reaches 200% when the chance of winning is just a step away.
When I reach the final table I think how to get a first place and try to be calm and patient. Depends from the stack if I am short trying to survive and play only with premium hands, if I have a big stack trying to steal blinds and play with the wide ranges of the hand.