This is a discussion on Small pairs in tournaments within the online poker forums, in the Tournament Poker section; I prefer to limp them from any position but only with both my and opponent's deep stacks. And often shove if stacks are small and
Well, it really depends. If its early on the tournament and blinds are cheap, probably try to limp it and hit a triple.
At medium stages, only if on the late positions, since i'd fold it to any bigger raises.
Deep in the tourney, i'd shove if low on chips, raise if i'm at late position, or calling some bet/shove from a small stack guy if I know i'll be on 1v1.
Probably 3bb raise. If there are any re-raise, all depends of pair size. IF 55+ I will call up to 5bb, If 22-44 I will fold.
Try to catch three of kind on the flop. This is the strongest and profitable hand you can get (because of reticence). Even flush draw at the board, you can strengthen for full-house (you have 2 more street for this (I said about three of a kind on the flop)).
So, all depends from 3 positions:
1. pair size
2. your position
3. opponents re-raise
Depends on the position for me, my chipstack and the fase of the tournament. I see so many people with a small pair go all in or even call a all in. I try to limp and if I have a good stacksize call a small bet in position. I don't play bingo so try to reason if it is worth it.
I agree that with a small pair should be cheap to enter the pot and if you hit a set you can pick up a lot of chips. But what about the small pair in the bubble, when more or less everyone playing all-in to show strength.
One time I made mistake and did it with 22 from the button and of course guy in the big bland, who covered me by the way, put all his chips in the meddle and I was busted against A7 on the flop J-9-7-4-Q.
After that I became little scared to play small pairs but latter on I started to use new strategy and with small pairs in the bubble I raise 4-5 big blinds and if someone 3 bet me I fold and save my game.
What you think about that kind of play or you have some suggestion for me.
I stick to the basics, If in early position I raise 2.5BB in early stages when blinds are small. I figure its worth it to play for a set when the blinds are cheap. Usually I get a call but no raise, most players fold which obviously changes positioning. If in mid to late position I raise 3BB. Just my 2 cents but probably on worth a penny!
I like to play them as cheap as possible, obviously. The no set= no bet theory has proven to be correct in the past. Overplayed a small pair in the Dominican at a WSOP Boot camp main event that stung pretty bad. Got 6th in the second chance tourney the next day and won a trip to Vegas!
I min raise, never limp because i want to se whar oppenenrs do facing raise...iff already raised call in start off tournament, fold or shove in later stages depending off stake and player who i am against..
Set mining more typical of ring games, rarely is it profitable in the tournaments and you'll often waste more in chips seeing it if happens and then if it happens the return is unlikely to be high. In early position only if deep stacked as you'll almost always be raised if you limp and possibly 3bet if you raise. In late position it can be nice but more played as steal cards and if people call the raise just hope you hit the flop or they miss and fold to your cbet.
People often see small pairs played hard on tv and what they miss out on is context. They are being played in those situations because it makes sense - one of the biggest leaks in tourney poker is people overplaying pocket pairs.
Small pocket pairs we are only playing to flop a set, with flopping a set 12% of the time we wan't to see the flop for as cheap as possible with as many players as possible to increase our expected value. 77- limp/fold. 88+ calling 3BB. 10+ raise or call a 3+BB bet.
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i want to see the flop with a small pair-i would not be raising with them from any position-i would call a small raise up to 3x the bb anything more there getting folded-small pairs are good for set mining-if you miss the flop and dont hit set -playing small pairs post flop normaly doesnt end well
It depends on the table. In micro stakes, if you are on a passive table, you can get away with limping pretty often. But if there are any half decent players on your table, they will instanly notice what's up when you limp and then come jumping at them on the flop.