Late buy in advantage?

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Anyone play poker base on how late the buy in is relative to how close you are in the money?

Lets assume some freeroll games are super late buy in. You can literally just buy-in and have 1.5X BB stack but you will be ITM before an orbit goes around. So if you just slow play, tank every last bit you will auto lock in a profit. This is the extreme of case but it kind of shows late buy in has an advantage. (ACR penny $10K)

If you are sub average player. If you are below average, playing 200bb deep you might be at a disadvantage. But if you buy in late you are playing push shove. No, floating the flop. No check raising. Just shove or fold. This plays really well if you are below average. And as the blinds gets bigger, even the best players are stuck to push folding if they end up under 10BB.

Also, you get the advantage of starting fresh. A big MTT on line can last 10 hours plus. It is a mental marathon. Reducing the fatigue by shorting it can give you a competitive edge. Remember it only take 5 minute of tilt to end your game.

What are your thoughts? Do you preform better if you late buy in or early buy in?
 
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I agree with you on most of what you are saying...

For me, I usually prefer to play from the start of the tournament if the late reg period is less than 2 hours. However, if it is longer I try to go in late but I take into consideration what the average stack size is, what the blinds are and how many total people are in the game.
 
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I don't like late buy ins because I can not grind as much.

Depends on how late we are talking... I can do something where I have 20 BB's to start... You will get a lot of people calling your made hands at that point because its early in the tourney.

Playing a small stack on bubbles is an art form though... Those 1 push differences when you have like 6 BB is huge..

If it is a very low value tourney and I am sticking to bankroll sometimes I do a little .5% BR donk off if I'm not even feeling like playing TBH lol
 
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Those 3 and 2 hours late registration are really too much. It's understandable that they want to reach the guaranteed amount of $ but it makes some MTTs take a long time and not being worth it. I remember when the late registration never exceeded one hour.
So it is normal that some players try to find a way around it and register just before the registration ends even though it has the disadvantage of not being able to make any plays but only wait for hands to shove with and pray !
 
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I particularly try to play all tournaments from the beginning, I think it is better for various reasons. First, you have the possibility to see more hands, more time to read your opponents, the blinds allow you to speed up your game.
 
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I've definitely heard about people employing this strategy, especially in longer tournaments. In tournaments I enter, I prefer to be either in it form the start or maybe joining in the last level if the blinds, starting stack, and number of remaining players left makes sense. The fatigue factor definitely makes sense and if being in a big tournament potentially 8+ hours doesn't work for you, purposely being a late reg could make sense.
 
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I used to employ the late registration strategy in freerolls. I would wait until several levels had passed and then come in with 15-20 BBs and grind my way up after all of the all in donks had either built up stacks or gotten knocked out. It was a pretty good strategy as I won many freerolls this way.

I have seen some people employ the strategy you recommended in some of the really long late reg MTTs that I have played but personally, I do not late reg for a tournament with under 10 BBs. You can wait for big hands and push and pray but the odds are really not just there to justify it. I guess if I was guaranteed to double my buyin using this strategy and joining a MTT that was so close to the bubble when late reg ended I could just fold every hand and make it in, I would give it a try, I have just not seen this to be the case. Typically, when late reg ends, you have a half hour to an hour before you get ITM and I think it is nearly impossible to do with a 1.5 BB stack unless you get extremely lucky.
 
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I always what till the blinds have gone up and the fish have and a chance to prove some worth , all depends on your skill range when you want to begin.
 
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I Love late buy ins

I have observed over the years a lot of players panic when their stake is low and go All in. Again Return on Interest even if you fold you up your percentage to win your money back and some. Patience is key along with smart play. This is my perspective on late buy ins. Would love any feedback Capo104
 
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In the later stages of the tournament, before the start of ITM, most of the players with medium and short stacks begin to spend time using the entire time bank. This is a normal phenomenon and to a greater extent justifies getting into the prize zone. I remember that on the Ongame network with a short stack of about 3.5 BB, I got to the middle of the prizes.
 
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I don't like late buy ins because I can not grind as much.
 
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I usually don't late buy-in , I think is in my disadvantage, being there from the start can give you some advantage.
 
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It all depends on your game skills !!! I'm used to register at the beginning of the tournament !!! My goal before the end of late registration is to try to increase the number of chips (this will give you an advantage) or at least not lose the initial number of chips !!!
 
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Late registration in Sattelite does works many times when we come up with 15 to 20 BB and tank to get 1 or 2 DU n that might be a ticket . But in MTT I always prefer to start from beginning as it gives me the chance to gain chips and take out lots of fishes from play.
 
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Same here, I prefer playing form the beginning.

Why? Obviously because of ability to collect more reads on your opponents and to increase your stack size. But it is true, that it is annoying to "get through" the late Registration Phase up until the Phase where actually number of Players is getting smaller and not bigger and bigger..

What I would like to know from you guys is About the phenomenon of Players in Tournament how are constantly on "sitting out"-mode. Even if blinds are increasing steadily and they have around 5 BB, they don't jump in but continue on "sitting out". Does any of you may have an Explanation for this Kind of behaviour?
 
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i don't happy when introduce late registration on all poker site but since when this structure i'm always registering for late
 
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I haven't seen any situations where I would be able to join late and guarantee myself a payout. On pokerstars, late registration seems to be no longer than 1 and 1/2 hours. Generally, you are still pretty far from ITM at that point and there are already some really big chip stacks. I'll sometimes join late with as little as 25BB if I don't care for any of the other available tournaments, but never less than 25BB.
 
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I always played since the beginning of a tourney but i started to get late in the game too and it works for me. I do some crazy research now and from what I could be able to aknowleadge theres some players big wales pro that do that in every 500 - 1000 - 1500$ or even higher tournament that PS are right now offer and they get good results so it must be a strategy here
 
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So you can look at this image, 0VP 0 hands played. Blind into the money. Just kind of funny. Just some micro stake poker.
 

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I would rather play for two or three hours and be the last player out before the money, than buy in at the last moment and fold my way to $3.

I play for the fun of playing, while also trying to build a bank. I sometimes enter a round or two late to avoid the initial shovers, but I always enter to play.
 
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I am starting to change the way I look into late buyins . As I feel my late stage push fold game has improved, so might take this one seriously. But will try it out on freerolls and small satties first before going for big ones
 
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I particularly like to play a tournament from the beginning
 
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I late buy in and Ive won 15+ MTTs, have 60+ top 3 finishes, and 100s of final table runs registering late.

Just like anything in poker, there are advantages and disadvantages to registering late but, if you can capitalize on the advantages and your late stage game is strong, you could do very well.

Late registering just try and min cash is a waste of time, though. If you're so worried about not losing a buy-in,just don't play MTTs.
 
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late buy in is cool if levels is too long, maybe 10-15 minutes
 
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I like to see more cheap flops, So i prefer to play from the get go.
 
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