The Maniac shoves with Ace high and find a nut flush on the river.
The Maniac raises UDG with 82o and find a set on the flop.
When the maniac is about to lose he finds a table straight and chops the pot.

How to beat such a entity as The Maniac?

Originally Posted by shinmenkami

How to beat such a entity as The Maniac?

Well that is quite simple: You will transform to the Maniac by yourself

Originally Posted by shinmenkami

The Maniac shoves with Ace high and find a nut flush on the river.
The Maniac raises UDG with 82o and find a set on the flop.
When the maniac is about to lose he finds a table straight and chops the pot.

How to beat such a entity as The Maniac?

You can defeat such players if you are patient enough in the long run. Other methods, in my opinion, are not effective.

Originally Posted by Risto234

Well that is quite simple: You will transform to the Maniac by yourself

Sometimes, I notice that you use this strategy in your own games.

Originally Posted by FoxMS

Sometimes, I notice that you use this strategy in your own games.

Ofcourse - after all whatever unusual strategy can also be great option. Sometimes.

First, you don't need to be nervous. The maniac will make a mistake anyway. Now you just have to better match the card.

Originally Posted by Risto234

Well that is quite simple: You will transform to the Maniac by yourself

Good one!!!
Just point the finger at him and say: you are next!! And he will dim out

Originally Posted by redmast

First, you don't need to be nervous. The maniac will make a mistake anyway. Now you just have to better match the card.

Yeah im just salty that the maniac always apear in the worst times to take all my chips

Originally Posted by shinmenkami

The Maniac shoves with Ace high and find a nut flush on the river.
The Maniac raises UDG with 82o and find a set on the flop.
When the maniac is about to lose he finds a table straight and chops the pot.

How to beat such a entity as The Maniac?

Patience is the key. Tighten up, play the nit against him and when you have a premium hand raise, check raise, check or whatever you need to do to entice him so you can stack him.
Study his HUD stats carefully. Build detailed notes on him.

Tight play is right, just need to wait for your moment, someone will bust him, if you are lucky it may be you

play tight, the opposite of his loose game, and under play the monsters hands especially the big pairs and wait to trap him, this requires patience, and breathe to calm yourself because maniacs tend to annoy everyone

You must carefully study your opponent at the table. Perhaps you should avoid such a player and play with great caution against him. Because it can't be read. Against such players, it is necessary to show the strength of your hand especially clearly and not give the opportunity to see the flop. Push game also sometimes brings results. Good luck, it's not very easy

Originally Posted by LFC_yllnwa

You must carefully study your opponent at the table. Perhaps you should avoid such a player and play with great caution against him. Because it can't be read. Against such players, it is necessary to show the strength of your hand especially clearly and not give the opportunity to see the flop. Push game also sometimes brings results. Good luck, it's not very easy

So how do you explain what happened just now? I was in the button with 2 pairs on the flop, betted 2/3 on flop and full pot on turn bringing the maniac down to 1/4 of his stack. Turn out he had 4 outs and found the straight draw on the river.

I believe i played right but i still lost because the villain is a madman.

God i hate freerolls

Originally Posted by najjah166

play tight, the opposite of his loose game, and under play the monsters hands especially the big pairs and wait to trap him, this requires patience, and breathe to calm yourself because maniacs tend to annoy everyone

It doesnt matter. The oponent always find the miracle card in the river

Originally Posted by Mahdi

Tight play is right, just need to wait for your moment, someone will bust him, if you are lucky it may be you

You can bust 10 maniacs but it only takes one to bust you

Just wait and see because their strategy can not past long. They could win a few pots like that but at the end lost in one time. But as Risto mentioned above sometimes you need to beat them with their own weapon.

Sometimes all you can do is play your best game and don't become overly focused about any one specific player at the tables, especially if they are running hot. Sometimes we should simply stay out of the way at times because luck can take a player places skill can not go.

Fold

Fold a lot, until you have a good hand and call it. When both go all in, the gambling element is there, but you will have a significant advantage over the fool.

Originally Posted by shinmenkami

You can bust 10 maniacs but it only takes one to bust you

True, that`s why you need to play tight, not lucky

Originally Posted by shinmenkami

The Maniac shoves with Ace high and find a nut flush on the river.
The Maniac raises UDG with 82o and find a set on the flop.
When the maniac is about to lose he finds a table straight and chops the pot.

How to beat such a entity as The Maniac?

The worst thing is having a maniac at the table when you're short stacked and slowly getting swollen by BB. Other than that, I love maniacs since all I have to do is be patient and strike with precision. Don't get frustrated and wait for your time, it will come.

the best way to beat maniac players is to play a tight aggressive game style, never or almost never bluff against these players, when shortstacked ( less than 20-15 bb) shove preflop with strong hands, make big value bets postflop and the most difficult thing to do is to make some hero calls in the right spots.

When it comes to playing with a partial maniac, the tactics change. These players are unpredictable. You should play tight with them. Don't call every raise of his, even if he's unsure. Better to wait for a strong combination and 3-bet. The game with experienced maniacs is the most difficult. The preferred position at the table is to the left of that player. Remember that these aggressors can be unreasonable to show themselves preflop. However, when it comes to the flop, they become completely unpredictable, which is why they often win in hands. The tactic of the game is as follows: wait for a strong combination and make a 3-bet. To be more successful in your actions, you need to knock the rest of the players out of the hands.
If there are several maniacs in the game, your location is not important. The most important thing in such a game is to choose the right combinations with which you will enter the game. If you are unsure of the strength of your hand, it is best to fold.

You should ask yourself, how do you beat a monster? It is by becoming one yourself, in that situation. How do you beat a maniac? It is by becoming a maniac yourself.

Three things are most important when you dealing with maniacs. Stack sizes, position, and good hand. It’s not really good to play against them if you don’t have bigger stack, even if you have better starting hand, you can still lose, and bust out from tournament. We all knows that position is crucial in playing poker, and hitting good hand specially in position it’s the best that we can hope for.

The Maniac beats himself. Always

Originally Posted by shinmenkami

The Maniac shoves with Ace high and find a nut flush on the river.
The Maniac raises UDG with 82o and find a set on the flop.
When the maniac is about to lose he finds a table straight and chops the pot.

How to beat such a entity as The Maniac?

Have you checked the maniac's stats, results?? Are you sure, he is the maniac? Or he just got the gap, what makes him profitable, lift him over the others. As you mentioned, he win against your pre-flop 'good' hands, meantime you never even play with cards like 82o, so you never will get it back. Have you ever think about the whys??? There are. Usually, the maniacs like that - even I do not like them, play often based on anything else like poker, how they do - have the 20x, 30x times higher stacks, than the starting one at the end of late reg, so they are almost 100% in the money, and have a very good position, chance for FT.... and so strange, they are often there, too....

If you really think an 82o UTG raise is a sure sign of a loser maniac - I do not say, it can't be -, then probably you did not play enough online and read too much 'education' about poker, but never considered the RNG factor...

How to beat them? By the time, patiance, luck, surprise them, too, or simply just forget the mainstream 'how to play poker' and focus for the online word, what is behind that...

Originally Posted by shinmenkami

So how do you explain what happened just now? I was in the button with 2 pairs on the flop, betted 2/3 on flop and full pot on turn bringing the maniac down to 1/4 of his stack. Turn out he had 4 outs and found the straight draw on the river.

I believe i played right but i still lost because the villain is a madman.

God i hate freerolls

The first thing I'll say is that the right game and freerolls can't go together You must understand that The second thing is that I do not know how you played preflop, maybe you made a mistake there. It is very difficult to keep a maniac out of the game, and it is almost impossible to knock him out when he sees the flop and he has at least 1% success rate... Therefore, the main game against the maniac is based on preflop. Or you should give him the table and throw away the cards on the turn or flop, if you see that the river can kill you... It is difficult, but sometimes it can save your chips and participation in the tournament...

Originally Posted by Badday94

The worst thing is having a maniac at the table when you're short stacked and slowly getting swollen by BB. Other than that, I love maniacs since all I have to do is be patient and strike with precision. Don't get frustrated and wait for your time, it will come.

They are not 'maniacs'. Usually they have enough high stack to steal with any hand, even 80% of their hand is good for an allin call against any hand, if the rest players are short stack, even if few not. They are the ones whose end up on FT more often than the average, and the money is on the FT... especially, you described an ITM situation, at least most of the time it happens in ITM or ITM bubble...

Pretty basic, odds count, and if you are in the money what else target you have like reaching FT with an average+ stack, that's rarely happens waiting for monster hands....

The maniac is particularly prone to any kind of bluffinduces. He likes to bluff, so give him the chance. If there's one type of player who slowplay makes sense, it's against him. Reduce your demands on a good hand. Your opponent is bluffing a lot and otherwise weak hands become the nuts. The concept of relative hand strength applies here. Against a maniac you can go broke preflop in steals situations with 99+ and AQ +, post-flop with top pair topkicker. Be consistent. Either you fold directly or call until the showdown. Own bluffs don't work against maniacs.The fluctuation in your win rate is huge against a maniac. Keep in mind that in the long run you will win against him. You have to accept the fluctuations.

Originally Posted by shinmenkami

The Maniac shoves with Ace high and find a nut flush on the river.
The Maniac raises UDG with 82o and find a set on the flop.
When the maniac is about to lose he finds a table straight and chops the pot.
How to beat such a entity as The Maniac?

understand, thanks that there are such players and poker has not died because of such maniacs! if you really do not know how to win with them, poker is not yours!

The short answer is you let the maniac hang himself by bluffing into you. You don't try to bluff them!

My latest video is all about how to crush a maniac

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if he likes to be aggressive with a strong hand like the check-call bet line, naturally depends on the board and dynamics. Well, in general, there is no point in bluffing it without equity - there is no, only with a strong draw. It is difficult to suggest anything else without knowing the exact information.

Originally Posted by Nathan Williams

The short answer is you let the maniac hang himself by bluffing into you. You don't try to bluff them!

My latest video is all about how to crush a maniac

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgKF_gDt7-g

I was kind of dissapointed, when I watched this video Nathan. I was looking forward to see another bad beat from 2NL or 5NL, and then you posted something totally different

I play with maniacs. If I have a good hand I JAM on maniacs and 80% of them will call.

I think you just make a note of the fact that he might play aggressively preflop with a wider range than most people and stop folding so much.

Originally Posted by shinmenkami

The Maniac shoves with Ace high and find a nut flush on the river.
The Maniac raises UDG with 82o and find a set on the flop.
When the maniac is about to lose he finds a table straight and chops the pot.

How to beat such a entity as The Maniac?

Play good solid poker. Players like this will hand you over chips. No need to get out of line just because this player is getting out of line themselves. Let them hang themselves when you have a strong holding, raise them whenever you have the nuts, and largely value bet all your strong holdings they are not betting for you. They will beat you sometimes but it doesn't matter -- good poker will always smash players like this in the long run of things.

Edit:: Oh!! And NEVER bluff players like this, they're not much into folding so it generally doesn't work out.

We have a maniac at our home game that plays foolish but gets 60% of the chips in play in the first hour! The only way to beat him is to stick to your own style and let him beat himself! I have played with said maniac for several years and 90% of the time he beats himself. Playing with him for so many years I know many tells he gives off and he doesn't even realize it. He likes to talk crazy when he plays and gives his strength or weakness away. even with a monster hand I let him try to buy the pot and he never disappoints! He does make it to the money once in a great while but never consistently.

Originally Posted by shinmenkami

The Maniac shoves with Ace high and find a nut flush on the river.
The Maniac raises UDG with 82o and find a set on the flop.
When the maniac is about to lose he finds a table straight and chops the pot.

How to beat such a entity as The Maniac?

Patiently wait for a strong hand and punish the scumbag for rudeness