Heads Up : How to play against players Aggressive

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Heads Up : How to play against players Aggressive.
 
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very illuminating .. now if i only had the BR to play them.
why they only start from NL50 anyway ?
 
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i think aggression is best strategy...not playing to much trash from big blind.....but im raising the button often
 
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Against aggressive players patient will make you win a lot of money. You have to wait for the right pot, the right hand, the right position. Analyse your opponent moves, hands to recognize patterns. It will be useful to make good decisions
 
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In heads up aggression is everything. Im heads up player and open the button 60-70% of the hand. Defend big bling only with good hands
 
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i am agresive..one think i dont like on the table..AGRESIVE players,than mee.
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very easy to play and heads up playing very aggressively. I believe that heads up to drastically change styles of play to confuse the opponent. then it will be even harder to read your playing style
 
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I like jang's post a lot.

I think the key to beating aggressive players is finding out where their ranges are too wide (and too weak) and really implementing your own aggression in that spot.

You really need to be able to make any adjustments necessary.

Thinking about it from a game theory perspective, imagine a player that calls 100% preflop, 100% on the flop, 100% on the turn, and 5% on the river. How do you beat that player?

Thinking about poker this way can really help you figure out where your opponent's weaker spots are to pressure them, and where you may just be feeding the pot with far too many weak hands.

The adjustments necessary might be uncomfortable. You might actually be calling super light on the flop, playing very passively early on in a hand, then getting very aggressive on later streets. Just don't close your mind off to potential solutions to beating players, and think of it like a game, a strategy is required to win, use the information available to you and really mold that strategy to your specific opponent.

I wouldn't necessarily tighten up OOP or in position either. Those can be fine slight adjustments early on, but you should be gathering information about your opponent and unless they spew really badly in big stack spots, you are often going to end up at too big a disadvantage if you play tight against a decent aggressive player.

Of course, against the fish that is just nuts and will bluff off every hand, you probably want to pull back a bit and play a good ole value stack strategy (for the most part at least), but that's an easy one to solve, playing against a decent-good aggro requires a different strategy.
 
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If you know that opponent are holding its easy to call with pocket 66 .
 
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I played a $2 heads up match the other day, I don't usually play heads up. But my opponent was super aggressive (stupid may be a better word) constantly overbetting the pot. He'd fire $120 into a $60 pot. So I just sat back, folded bad hands preflop and waited till I got a real strong starting hand. If I hit the flop, bet for value and he'd call me down all the way. I won $4, wahoo!
 
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I played a $2 heads up match the other day, I don't usually play heads up. But my opponent was super aggressive (stupid may be a better word) constantly overbetting the pot. He'd fire $120 into a $60 pot. So I just sat back, folded bad hands preflop and waited till I got a real strong starting hand. If I hit the flop, bet for value and he'd call me down all the way. I won $4, wahoo!

You actually won $2. The other $2 was yours to begin with. :D

Nice win.

-HooDooKoo
 
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You actually won $2. The other $2 was yours to begin with. :D

Nice win.

-HooDooKoo

I beg to differ. That $2 buy-in is gone. I don't see it if I lose. I won my buy-in back, plus another $2. That's $4. :withstupi
 
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I beg to differ. That $2 buy-in is gone. I don't see it if I lose. I won my buy-in back, plus another $2. That's $4. :withstupi

You can beg to differ if you'd like, but your "interpretation" is wrong. If you'd lost this tournament, would you have described your loss as a $2 loss or a $4 loss?

That's what I thought.

-HooDooKoo
 
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I beg to differ. That $2 buy-in is gone. I don't see it if I lose. I won my buy-in back, plus another $2. That's $4. :withstupi
haha so you be the kind of person that looses 200, wins 50 and say you won 50$ last night lol when actually lost 150. Sign of a problem gambler lol, or a trying to fool the significant other gambler :D
 
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haha so you be the kind of person that looses 200, wins 50 and say you won 50$ last night lol when actually lost 150. Sign of a problem gambler lol, or a trying to fool the significant other gambler :D

So I guess whoever wins the Main Event is only winning $8,349,531, not the
$8,359,531 wsop.com lists for first place. WSOP just keeps the extra $10K.
 
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So I guess whoever wins the Main Event is only winning $8,349,531, not the
$8,359,531 WSOP.com lists for first place. WSOP just keeps the extra $10K.

Are you honestly this obtuse?

You have $10 and you and I decide to bet your $10 (vs. my $10) on a coin flip. You call "heads" and we flip the coin, which comes up a head. I give you $10, per the bet. You now have $20. You didn't win $20, you won $10 --- the $10 that you didn't have BEFORE we made the wager. In this example, you risked exactly $10 and we didn't specify odds so they are assumed to be 1-to-1. Therefore, there are two possible results: you can win $10, or you can lose $10. That is the full list of possibilities.

The HU tournament is no different that this. You had $2 before you played, and after you played you had $4 --- so you won $2.

If you cannot grasp the concept illustrated above then you have ZERO probability of being a winning poker player. Seriously. So if the illustration above doesn't change your mind then, for your sake, find a new hobby.

Good luck.

-HooDooKoo
 
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Obtuse? Had to look that one up. I think we're talking semantics here. No reason to get nasty. But I'm sure your view equates to being better at poker. Having fun playing at Lock and never getting your winnings, whether that's $10 or $20.
 
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Obtuse? Had to look that one up. I think we're talking semantics here. No reason to get nasty. But I'm sure your view equates to being better at poker. Having fun playing at Lock and never getting your winnings, whether that's $10 or $20.

I'm honestly not trying to be nasty. If you think I am, I apologize. I'm simply trying to help you understand the error in your interpretation of the aforementioned events. You can accept my explanation/reasoning, or choose to ignore it. It makes no difference to me.

As for Lock, while cashout time ARE ridiculously slow, some of us ARE getting our money --- and we US players don't exactly have a ton of options. I would switch to Bovada in a heartbeat, but Bovada blocks player identities in poker lobbies. I am a heads-up NL tournament specialist, and game selection is crucial to being profitable if that's the only game you play. As a result, I am unwilling to play at Bovada. I have, however, established an account at intertops so that I can substantially shorten the payouts delays I have been dealing with. Maybe someday Lock will get their act together and I'll play there again, but I spend very little time playing there these days.

Good luck.

-HooDooKoo
 
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trap them...pretty simple concept actually, just don't fire back at them because who knows what they will have
 
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No worries man. How long do you have to wait for payouts at Lock? How is the competition?
 
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No worries man. How long do you have to wait for payouts at Lock? How is the competition?

Current payout times are ridiculous. Generally 4-6 months. Quicker if you can get CC to help (which they are trying to do, but the scope is limited). The players on Lock have always been pretty soft, and that has increased recently because many people are treating their account balances like play money (because so many people think Lock is insolvent). I can't comment intelligently on Lock's solvency. Up to this point, though, I have always been paid --- but excruciatingly slowly. Having said that, I would not recommend that you (or anyone) deposit there until the cash out times increase materially.

Good luck.

-HooDooKoo
 
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Current payout times are ridiculous. Generally 4-6 months. Quicker if you can get CC to help (which they are trying to do, but the scope is limited). The players on Lock have always been pretty soft, and that has increased recently because many people are treating their account balances like play money (because so many people think Lock is insolvent). I can't comment intelligently on Lock's solvency. Up to this point, though, I have always been paid --- but excruciatingly slowly. Having said that, I would not recommend that you (or anyone) deposit there until the cash out times increase materially.

Good luck.

-HooDooKoo

so usa makes most of the good sites in online poker illegal and then allows only sites that are hardly paying out :) logic makes no sense
 
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Bovada payouts are quick, 10 days at most, but the anonymous player thing scares a lot of people, including myself sometimes. i go on major downswings everytime i cash out, and i've heard many peeps say the same thing. who knows.
 
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