# Have you ever cracked AA with AA?

#### xOneCoolHandx

##### Legend
Platinum Level
I was playing a PKO yesterday and looked down at AA from EP. It was raised by a loose player and I 3 bet. The button cold 4 bets. The original raiser folds and I can either 5 bet jam or flat and see a flop. In this instance, I 5 bet jammed and got called by AA. I kind of laughed because what are the chances right. But then the flop came with 2 spades (I had the ace of spades) and I could feel that it was going to be one of those sick hands. Sure enough, turn and river were both spades. How crazy is that?

##### Rock Star
Silver Level
It's a bit more crazy when you are in a \$1,000,000 buy-in event.

#### VikyGia

##### Rock Star
Bronze Level
Hi

Playing AA is somewhat complicated because you try to get as many chips as possible, however there are players who play with any card and always win, despite starting with good cards there is a risk of losing

#### afecho

##### Rock Star
Bronze Level
Oh man! That IS poker though isn't it? Wow. I've certainly never seen that before!

#### BelFish

##### Legend
Loyaler
I saw the same myself in one of CardsChat freerolls ))
Maybe i'll find a screenshot later.

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#### gassstation

##### Enthusiast
Bronze Level
KK against AA

I had a similar situation, except I had KK, my opponent had AA, the flop came K and I took the pot. But in your situation to catch 4 spades, more luck

##### Rock Star
Silver Level
I had a similar situation, except I had KK, my opponent had AA, the flop came K and I took the pot. But in your situation to catch 4 spades, more luck
AA vs KK is a standard 80/20 hand. Not really a statistical anomaly for a lower pair to beat a higher pair.

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#### BelFish

##### Legend
Loyaler
There are formulas and tables of the probabilities of facing with higher pair at a table with a different number of opponents.

Here is a table of probabilities that opponents have at least one pair higher than our:

#### BelFish

##### Legend
Loyaler
Here, for example, from the point of view of dudes with JJ and with tt from screenshots, when they were in all-in, they had a probability of facing with 3 pairs of the highest rank, respectively 0.00008 and 0.00028 or about 0 .01% and 0.03%

#### black and

##### Legend
Platinum Level
At least two or three times I had a similar situation. But I do not see anything extraordinary in this. It's just poker.

#### BelFish

##### Legend
Loyaler
Somehow i had nothing to do and i manually calculated for JJ the probability of crossing with QQ or with KK or with AA for Hold'em and for "6+" оn the 6-max table

For Hold'em:

3*5(4/50 * 3/49)*(1 - 2/48 * 1/47 - 2 * 4/48 * 3/47)^4 + 3*10*(4/50 * 3/49 * 2/48 * 1/47)*(1 - 2 * 4/46 * 3/45)^3 + 6*10*(4/50 * 3/49 * 4/48 * 3/47)*(1 - 2 * 2/46 * 1/45 - 4/46 * 3/45)^3 + 6*3*10*(4/50 * 3/49 * 2/48 * 1/47 * 4/46 * 3/45)*(1 - 2/44 * 1/43 - 4/44 *3/43)^2 + 6*10*(4/50 * 3/49 * 4/48 * 3/47 * 4/46 * 3/45)*(1 - 3 * 2/44 * 1/43)^2 + 3*12*5*(4/50 * 3/49 * 2/48 * 1/47 * 4/46 * 3/45 * 4/44 * 3/43)*(1 - 2 * 2/42 * 1/41) + 3*6*5*(4/50 * 3/49 * 2/48 * 1/47 * 4/46 * 3/45 * 2/44 * 1/43)*(1 - 4/42 * 3/41) + 3*30*(4/50 * 3/49 * 2/48 * 1/47 * 4/46 * 3/45 * 2/44 * 1/43 * 4/42 * 3/41)
7.18071%

For "6+":

3*5(4/34 * 3/33)*(1 - 2/32 * 1/31 - 2 * 4/32 * 3/31)^4 + 3*10*(4/34 * 3/33 * 2/32 * 1/31)*(1 - 2 * 4/30 * 3/29)^3 + 6*10*(4/34 * 3/33 * 4/32 * 3/31)*(1 - 2 * 2/30 * 1/29 - 4/30 * 3/29)^3 + 6*3*10*(4/34 * 3/33 * 2/32 * 1/31 * 4/30 * 3/29)*(1 - 2/28 * 1/27 - 4/28 *3/27)^2 + 6*10*(4/34 * 3/33 * 4/32 * 3/31 * 4/30 * 3/29)*(1 - 3 * 2/28 * 1/27)^2 + 3*12*5*(4/34 * 3/33 * 2/32 * 1/31 * 4/30 * 3/29 * 4/28 * 3/27)*(1 - 2 * 2/26 * 1/25) + 3*6*5*(4/34 * 3/33 * 2/32 * 1/31 * 4/30 * 3/29 * 2/28 * 1/27)*(1 - 4/26 * 3/25) + 3*30*(4/34 * 3/33 * 2/32 * 1/31 * 4/30 * 3/29 * 2/28 * 1/27 * 4/26 * 3/25)
15.23534%

#### BelFish

##### Legend
Loyaler
The probability that all 5 opponents have a pairs higher than our JJ at a 6-max table )))
P = 0.0000000016688466628%
Or 1 time out of 59.921.622.655

For example: JJ vs AA/AA/KK/KK/QQ

##### Rock Star
Silver Level
There are formulas and tables of the probabilities of facing with higher pair at a table with a different number of opponents.

Rough math shortcut is [number of players] x [number of higher pairs] / 2. So if you have TT and there are 3 other people, it would be 3 x 4 / 2 = 6%. Beats the hell outta memorizing the chart.

So if you have KK, with one other opponent, it is 1 x 1 / 2 = 0.5% that you are up against AA.

Regardless, once you are KK vs AA (or any lower pair vs. higher pair) you have about a 20% chance to win.

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#### BelFish

##### Legend
Loyaler
Rough math shortcut is [number of players] x [number of higher pairs] / 2. So if you have TT and there are 3 other people, it would be 3 x 4 / 2 = 6%. Beats the hell outta memorizing the chart.

Yes, thank you! This rule works well if our pair is not very small...

I just calculated for the sake of sporting interest for JJ in Holdem and in "6+"

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#### fundiver199

##### Legend
Loyaler
Yes that has happened, and I have also had my AA cracked by the other AA. When you play a lot, you will eventually see nearly everything, thats possible in poker

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#### Cooking

##### Legend
Platinum Level
I don't remember this hapenning with me with AA, but already happened with others pairs. I already won and lost in this way.

#### Kenzie 96

##### Legend
Loyaler
More than once on each end. When you lose it just proves that online poker is rigged & when you win, well that's just poker.

#### sincos

##### Visionary
Platinum Level
AA vs AA met 3-4 times, but there was a draw

#### mina271

##### Legend
Bronze Level
I saw it at the table with others and I remember some of them saying lol at the table but then one of them got his flush and then there was wow at the tables and omg. I know I was in that situation myself, but I don't remember how it ended. With KK I remember we both lost with KK to an inferior hand and someone said it's a shame there's no 5th k lol. But nothing shocks me anymore when it comes to poker because I think I've seen almost everything. But I'm waiting for the next surprise, you never know if that's really all

#### Ketienne

##### Rock Star
Bronze Level
Interesting question as it seems almost impossible but I remember a 1 million dollar tournament a long time ago where Conor Drinan vs Cary Katz got knocked out of the tournament with Aces vs Aces because Katz hit flush hearts on the river

Unforgettable moment you can watch here:

#### FF2586

##### Rock Star
Bronze Level
Hey !
Funny hand !
Happened to me more than once showing the same hand, but only once aces vs aces.
I am always rooting for my suit when I am all in versus the same pair (like 8s vs 8s or so)
That's very lucky ! And I have been in the other end too. Of course I have.

Gl at the tables

#### hilary antonik filho

##### Legend
Platinum Level
Congratulations on this move, I'm not very lucky with AA, I saw it once a long time ago, what a joy and experience for you and what a disappointment for your opponent, these are things of Poker