This is a discussion on Good 3Bet Shove Spot? within the online poker forums, in the Tournament Poker section; Villain is 0/0 over 8 hands
PokerStars - 150/300 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 8 players
BB: 5,345 (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 17.02, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands:
All-in player in MP is playing too loose and opens widely, even on the basis of such meager statistics, VPIP 25% for 8 hands is a lot, but we know that in this tournament at this table is playing loose MP. Against such a player to put all-in AT easily.
Hi, you only have as information of the villain 8 hands and ATo is not a premium hand but if a good hand to go all-in when you only have 12BB I think the movement here was to make a 3bet with the whole stack and see if there is luck with that hand
Hard to say but I think I would have shoved here too. We dont know enough about this guy with only 8 hands but another raise makes me think he is on the looses side and we are short enough we need to make something happen. I think the shove is the right more here.
With the information we have (it is not important 8 hands) we can believe that MP is a conservative-aggressive player, that 50% of the time he decides to play his hand, he enters the pot increasing his value.
On the other hand, your hand is really a speculative hand, which in front of the rival you have, could allow you to pay the increase.
But since you only have approximately 13 large-stack blinds, paying the increase would not be profitable for you.
I think that the correct move in this case would be to go with everything, since there are still 3 rounds of bets and in this way you are exerting all the pressure on the MP, so that he abandons his possible speculative hands.
I would wait for a better spot. Yes, you're getting close to the magic 10bbs shove rule but, I'd like to either shove on a blind or button after I've seen the action. However, if you were lower stack...say 6bb's...no question it's a shove regardless of your stats of the other players.