Good 3Bet Shove Spot?

[bianconi_10]

Villain is 0/0 over 8 hands

pokerstars - 150/300 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 8 players

BB: 5,345 (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 17.02, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 51)
UTG: 5,847 (VPIP: 44.07, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 59)
UTG+1: 3,274 (VPIP: 19.65, PFR: 14.49, 3Bet Preflop: 6.10, Hands: 622)
MP: 4,418 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (MP+1): 3,831
CO: 8,592 (VPIP: 52.78, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 36)
BTN: 1,889 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
SB: 12,522 (VPIP: 16.88, PFR: 12.34, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 858)

8 players post ante of 25, SB posts SB 150, BB posts BB 300

Pre Flop: (pot: 650) Hero has Ts Ac

fold, fold, MP raises to 788, Hero ?

 

[Alex70793]

All-in player in MP is playing too loose and opens widely, even on the basis of such meager statistics, VPIP 25% for 8 hands is a lot, but we know that in this tournament at this table is playing loose MP. Against such a player to put all-in AT easily.

 

[greatgame230]

Hi, you only have as information of the villain 8 hands and ATo is not a premium hand but if a good hand to go all-in when you only have 12BB I think the movement here was to make a 3bet with the whole stack and see if there is luck with that hand

 

[Luvepoker]

Hard to say but I think I would have shoved here too. We dont know enough about this guy with only 8 hands but another raise makes me think he is on the looses side and we are short enough we need to make something happen. I think the shove is the right more here.

 

[gustav197poker]

With the information we have (it is not important 8 hands) we can believe that MP is a conservative-aggressive player, that 50% of the time he decides to play his hand, he enters the pot increasing his value.
On the other hand, your hand is really a speculative hand, which in front of the rival you have, could allow you to pay the increase.
But since you only have approximately 13 large-stack blinds, paying the increase would not be profitable for you.
I think that the correct move in this case would be to go with everything, since there are still 3 rounds of bets and in this way you are exerting all the pressure on the MP, so that he abandons his possible speculative hands.
Greeting!

 

[JBGoode]

Villain is 0/0 over 8 hands

PokerStars - 150/300 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 8 players

BB: 5,345 (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 17.02, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 51)
UTG: 5,847 (VPIP: 44.07, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 59)
UTG+1: 3,274 (VPIP: 19.65, PFR: 14.49, 3Bet Preflop: 6.10, Hands: 622)
MP: 4,418 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (MP+1): 3,831
CO: 8,592 (VPIP: 52.78, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 36)
BTN: 1,889 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
SB: 12,522 (VPIP: 16.88, PFR: 12.34, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 858)

8 players post ante of 25, SB posts SB 150, BB posts BB 300

Pre Flop: (pot: 650) Hero has Ts Ac

fold, fold, MP raises to 788, Hero ?

I think you can find a better spot. You have a lot of players behind. AJs+ maybe.... ATo, I would consider it from CO or BTN against a MP open.

 

[bianconi_10]

I think you can find a better spot. You have a lot of players behind. AJs+ maybe.... ATo, I would consider it from CO or BTN against a MP open.

Yes, it works better vs this positions

 

[NCDaddy]

I would wait for a better spot. Yes, you're getting close to the magic 10bbs shove rule but, I'd like to either shove on a blind or button after I've seen the action. However, if you were lower stack...say 6bb's...no question it's a shove regardless of your stats of the other players.