Fear of moving up in stakes. suggestions?

[cheeeer]

One step forward, one step back. If you are insecure and loosing.

But mostly it is always like that when you try next level. After few games it disappears. When you are used to it.

 

[123cards321]

bankroll

I think once you have played a good amount of MTT the 100 buyin rule can be streched a bit, I think you have similar opponents in the 1-3$ range and I think you should stick to that. Everything from 4.4$-6$ will significantly vary the level of your opponents and the strategy you should use to maximize profit, not to mention that limits higher than 8$ are completely different from the lower buyins you get a more GTO play there.

But give it a try with a couple of MTTs and you should see for yourself how you feel with the new limit and dont judge yourself if you need to step down a limit for a while if you are not feeling to comfortable until you do and you have a bankroll that allows you to play your game without worries.

 

[dallam]

I think that some point taking a step forward is pretty obvious. As you had great bankroll managment and had great results as well you have been already took your steps forward.

But as we are so different, not everyone can feel theirselves calm about a 200x buy-in. If you need 1000x and you kept continue your work that you had done so far, you are gonna reach that and it may gives you the comfortable feeling to change the field.
You can even mix the levels, and first you play 1$ next 2$ and 1$ and 2$ and so on... it would be 350x buy-ins, and you can experience the higher level as well with less risk.

So far you definitely made an amazing job. And without serious pressure you can continue we all can tell. So play with a bankroll, which allow you to love what you are doing with the less worries.

 

[ph_il]

If you plan to play for profit, then you also want to find the limit of how many tables, you can play, before your performance start to suffer. So its not so much about spending more hours in front of the screen. Its more about being able to have for instance 4 tables running at the same time.
...very true. due to my current schedule for everything (poker, work, life) i only play 1-5 mtts/day and it's usually 1 mtt at a time. in the evening it might be 2 mtts at once because they overlap each other, but it's usually 1 mtt at a time.

this could possibly why i'm doing decently as far as roi % is concerned as i am able to focus on 1 table at a time. it's definitely a slow grind as i'm only, technically, playing 22-110 mtts/month as i don't play on weekends. and sometimes, i miss days during the week. however, i make for the lack of actual mtts played by counting re-entries as their own mtt, allowing me to track more volume while not necessarily playing more mtts.

A typical session for me might be for instance a 5$ MTT, a 8,8$ turbo MTT, a 11$ PKO and a 12$ MTT at the same time. If I then bust from one of these, I might add a 2,2$ turbo R+A or a 5,5$ PKO depending on, what is available. I play a span of buy-ins and formats, and its rare, that I am able to have two identical MTTs running at the same time.
...in the evening, there are 3 games that overlap. a $1 $750 gtd w/ 10k starting (i usually skip this), a $1 $150 6-max freezeout w/ 7.5k starting, and a $1 $100 gtd w/5k starting. all have 10 min blinds and same blind structure.

that's pretty much the multi-table variety i get.

You dont want to take this to far, and if you make it into high stakes there can certainly be an argument for specialising in for instance PKOs to get really good at them. But at the end of the day its still MTTs, and something like a factor 5 between your lowest and highest buyin is completely fine. It gives you a feel also for, how small or large the difference actually is between, how people play in a 3$ MTT and a 12$ MTT.
...i'm pretty sure the difference between the $1 and $2 games are going to pretty minimal.

above

 

[ph_il]

I think once you have played a good amount of MTT the 100 buyin rule can be streched a bit, I think you have similar opponents in the 1-3$ range and I think you should stick to that. Everything from 4.4$-6$ will significantly vary the level of your opponents and the strategy you should use to maximize profit, not to mention that limits higher than 8$ are completely different from the lower buyins you get a more GTO play there.

But give it a try with a couple of MTTs and you should see for yourself how you feel with the new limit and dont judge yourself if you need to step down a limit for a while if you are not feeling to comfortable until you do and you have a bankroll that allows you to play your game without worries.

i haven't even started thinking about buy-ins above $2 mtts. one thing at a time, lol. but i completely agree and do expect play to be virtually the same within the $1 and $2 buy-in mtts.

i will move up but i've decided to take a safe bankroll approach to the game and wait until ive built up 200 buy-ins before i take stabs at $2 games. this will also give me time to plug some of my own leaks at the $1 mtts as well. especially if i think the $1 and $2 games are going to be similar, then i don't want to making the same $1 mistakes in a $2 game either.

so, it's going to be a slow grind to get there but i should be a lot more confident in my game by the time i do.

 

[ph_il]

I think that some point taking a step forward is pretty obvious. As you had great bankroll managment and had great results as well you have been already took your steps forward.

But as we are so different, not everyone can feel theirselves calm about a 200x buy-in. If you need 1000x and you kept continue your work that you had done so far, you are gonna reach that and it may gives you the comfortable feeling to change the field.
You can even mix the levels, and first you play 1$ next 2$ and 1$ and 2$ and so on... it would be 350x buy-ins, and you can experience the higher level as well with less risk.

So far you definitely made an amazing job. And without serious pressure you can continue we all can tell. So play with a bankroll, which allow you to love what you are doing with the less worries.

thanks for the kind words. this is definitely a confidence issue and something i'm working on.

as i mentioned in a previous post, i'm building up my bankroll to $440+ before i consider stabs at the $2 game. this will take me a while to get there and i'll be putting in a decent amount of volume at the $1 games. my best approach is to work on my game at the $1 buy-in, try and plug my leaks, etc before i move up. by the time i do hit my bankroll goal, i should feel more confident about my game.

on top of that, once i've tracked 1000 mtts, my overall results, especially my roi % and itm % should help determine if i'm ready to move up in stakes.

 

[Luvepoker]

I know how you feel about moving up and had the same issue at one time. Here was the advise I was give that actually helped me. Dont just move up a stake but balance it. So if going to $2.00 worry you that's fine. Would $1.50 games help or say $1.25 game. While you may not find those game is you play a mix of 50/50 $1 and $2 game you ave would balance out to $1.50 ave. For me it alleviate the worry about jumping to the higher level as I was playing one I was comfortable with and the next level.

 

[ph_il]

I know how you feel about moving up and had the same issue at one time. Here was the advise I was give that actually helped me. Dont just move up a stake but balance it. So if going to $2.00 worry you that's fine. Would $1.50 games help or say $1.25 game. While you may not find those game is you play a mix of 50/50 $1 and $2 game you ave would balance out to $1.50 ave. For me it alleviate the worry about jumping to the higher level as I was playing one I was comfortable with and the next level.

i like the take on averages and can see myself trying something like that once i meet my bankroll requirements.

 

[UkoChebuko]

Just GO UP!!! Add some rage in your mindset. The life is short.

 

[Isildurrr696969]

Bro just add a "bigger" game along with ur regular buy ins and play it the same you wont even relize it then

Just GO UP!!! Add some rage in your mindset. The life is short.

I like ur style brotha

 

[ph_il]

Bro just add a "bigger" game along with ur regular buy ins and play it the same you wont even relize it then

sorry, but no. i will definitely notice it. plus i'm following strict brm, so it's not something i want to add in just because i can.

 

[ph_il]

thought this was funny. dont know why i was struggling with saying 'flop 345' in the first hand.

warning: lower your volume. my laptop mic is pretty loud.