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Freepokerfree
Rock Star
Silver Level
ptracco
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I really try to use it.. it is a good rule..
but as I was always bad at following rules.. I dont do it.. but I dont get good results.
SO. when Im short at my BR.. I do use it.. when I have a little more money.. I try some higher buy ins
but as I was always bad at following rules.. I dont do it.. but I dont get good results.
SO. when Im short at my BR.. I do use it.. when I have a little more money.. I try some higher buy ins
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OSA_913
Rising Star
Bronze Level
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
Why dont you deposit 25$ then and go from there?
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UkoChebuko
Rock Star
Silver Level
100 buy ins is too passive for the low levels. And the STT. Depends on the format and yes, the level. At the higher levels, they are many regs, very often you play only vs regs. And they have HUD, you can't exploit them very easily. When you shove preflop or postflop, the equity is borderline, range vs range. The variance is huge. Like playing a roulette. Black/red, you know. 50/50...
This rule "100 buy ins" is "only a rule", rough one. You can change that. Depends on that how many tables is this SNG, 6 max or 9/10 max, which speed, how good are players, how fast they play. And how good you are ofc...Do you have knowledge, do you have info...
And also how many tables you play. If you have let's say 30 buy ins, you play at 15 tables, well, you will lost several buy ins at the beginning, it is "normal". Then you use let's say 23-24 buy ins only "for playing", you play already with this, in your cashier you have only 6-7 buy ins. And as you see, if you have 10 buy ins downswing (pretty normal), you can't play at this level. If you play only 4 tables, well, most of your roll will be in the cashier.
And for the turbo format you don't need twice bigger roll. The reg speed is not so profitable. But many people think it is. In the turbo you have more options. I can't really explain, my English is bad, but the turbos are not so bad, "low ROI, huge variance", not even close to that.. It is not like that. And you don't need very big roll, only because you play turbo. But the hyper turbo is the hell. This is something different. Very big roll needed...
This rule "100 buy ins" is "only a rule", rough one. You can change that. Depends on that how many tables is this SNG, 6 max or 9/10 max, which speed, how good are players, how fast they play. And how good you are ofc...Do you have knowledge, do you have info...
And also how many tables you play. If you have let's say 30 buy ins, you play at 15 tables, well, you will lost several buy ins at the beginning, it is "normal". Then you use let's say 23-24 buy ins only "for playing", you play already with this, in your cashier you have only 6-7 buy ins. And as you see, if you have 10 buy ins downswing (pretty normal), you can't play at this level. If you play only 4 tables, well, most of your roll will be in the cashier.
And for the turbo format you don't need twice bigger roll. The reg speed is not so profitable. But many people think it is. In the turbo you have more options. I can't really explain, my English is bad, but the turbos are not so bad, "low ROI, huge variance", not even close to that.. It is not like that. And you don't need very big roll, only because you play turbo. But the hyper turbo is the hell. This is something different. Very big roll needed...
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ph_il
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Silver Level
i usually don't start with 100 buy-ins because i don't see the need to put in/start off with the full bankroll.
what i normally do is have a bankroll set aside for 100 buy-ins, but i only deposit 25 buy-ins to start. if i need to reload, i'll put in another 25 buy-ins. what this allows me to do is build up my roll without putting 100% of my money at risk on the site because things happen.
sometimes i don't like the site structures or there aren't enough games i want to play, maybe things change, or whatever. i'd rather give up $25 on a site than a full $100. and it's not like i'm not fully bankrolled to play, i'm just depositing in increments. on top of that, lets say it's a site i really enjoy and i do well with my initial $25, then there is no need to deposit the other $75 and that's money i can put to other use.
what i normally do is have a bankroll set aside for 100 buy-ins, but i only deposit 25 buy-ins to start. if i need to reload, i'll put in another 25 buy-ins. what this allows me to do is build up my roll without putting 100% of my money at risk on the site because things happen.
sometimes i don't like the site structures or there aren't enough games i want to play, maybe things change, or whatever. i'd rather give up $25 on a site than a full $100. and it's not like i'm not fully bankrolled to play, i'm just depositing in increments. on top of that, lets say it's a site i really enjoy and i do well with my initial $25, then there is no need to deposit the other $75 and that's money i can put to other use.
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
A bankroll is supposed to be an amount of money, which you have set aside for playing poker. But nobody say, it all has to be deposited in a single poker site. If you play on multible sites, it makes little sense to view your balance on each site as a separate bankroll, since money can be moved around if needed.
Might not be ideal but almost certainly better than unnessesarely holding yourself back from playing games, you are fully bankrolled for and also beating. If a live poker player goes to a casino, he probably also dont bring his entire bankroll with him, or leave it in the casino safety box
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
Agree. 100 BI is an easy to remember number, but its mostly meant for MTTs, and it is just an approximation. For large MTTs like 1.000+ players, 100 BI is actually not enough. But on the other hand there is also the option to move down or redeposit, so at the low levels we dont always need to be that extremely conservative and play with for instance 300BIs for large MTTs.
byron42
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Tried to stay true to this, but then took some shots or became bored and wanted action so I tried those stupid spin-to-win things. I will say that the 100 buy in rule would've saved my arse at this point. If I had stayed true to it, I'd still have my micro/low bankroll in effect to some extent, even while complaining about how bad beats were making it hard for me to win. At this point, I'm on to freerolls to start something up again...
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ph_il
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Silver Level
aboveA bankroll is supposed to be an amount of money, which you have set aside for playing poker. But nobody say, it all has to be deposited in a single poker site. If you play on multible sites, it makes little sense to view your balance on each site as a separate bankroll, since money can be moved around if needed.
...true, but i'm very picky about the sites i play on. before i even deposit, i'm looking at their mtt structures, how often games play, and if i'll be able to play them, before i make a deposit.
and i disagree. if i were to play on different sites, then i would view them as completely different bankrolls for each. if i have $20 on one site and $55 on another, then i'm definitely playing different games.
i'm not quite sure how easily money actually gets moved around.
Might not be ideal but almost certainly better than unnessesarely holding yourself back from playing games, you are fully bankrolled for and also beating. If a live poker player goes to a casino, he probably also dont bring his entire bankroll with him, or leave it in the casino safety box
...i don't think it necessarily holds me back if i deposit 25 buy-ins instead of a full 100. i could agree if the goal is to move up in stakes, then i'd be hindering myself somewhat. but i don't ever really plan on playing higher than $1 mtt buy-ins, except for the the rare $2 game i might take a shot at.
MAGICUZ
Legend
Bronze Level
This is the correct rule, but unfortunately I do not adhere to it.I've been playing poker for a long time and it's still my hobby.I can drop my entire bankroll overnight.If poker is fun for you then you can spend time playing for 0.10 cents.But for me personally it's a waste of time.My rule in poker is all or nothing)
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
If you dont plan on ever playing higher than 1$ or perhaps occationally 2$, then almost per definition you are playing mostly for fun. Maybe you can still end up winning a small amount of money, but profit is not your main goal. This is completely fine, and in that situation there is no need to worry about having a bankroll. For most people its not even possible to lose enough money at these limits to really hurt their financial situation. But if needed then make a budget limiting yourself to not deposit more than 25$ or 50$ per month. And of course only make that deposit if needed.
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MakTrue
Visionary
Silver Level
Do you use the 100 buy-in rule? at what levels are you?
In my case I am building the bank through freerolls and 0.10 , I would like to be in the tournaments of S&G 0.25 They are normal blind structures, more comfortable and I like that
thanks for participating, greetings to all
Good day!
Of course, you should adhere to this rule, however ...
I play tournaments with abi 5 and less, as well as cash NL2 and NL5
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ph_il
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Silver Level
yeah. i am 100% absolute garbage at this game and playing $0-$1 mtts is a way to get some fun and enjoyment from playing without breaking the bank.
theANMATOR
Legend
Bronze Level
Yessir
Yes I do as well, and I play at the upper point of the micro level on ACR, 5 dollar buyin and under.
On the weekends - when I have a chance to play for a complete session/day - I will have in play roughly 3-6% of my entire roll. Depending on how many events I buy into. This used to be a greater percentage of my entire roll, but I have steadily increased my roll, while still continuing to play in the same events I have all year.
I will also take a shot - roughly once every week, or maybe once every two weeks.
This is usually in one tourney that is beyond my 100 buyin limit.
Example: Lets say I'm playing with 600 on ACR, I might take a shot in a 10 or even 15 dollar buyin event once every two weeks.
Yes I do as well, and I play at the upper point of the micro level on ACR, 5 dollar buyin and under.
On the weekends - when I have a chance to play for a complete session/day - I will have in play roughly 3-6% of my entire roll. Depending on how many events I buy into. This used to be a greater percentage of my entire roll, but I have steadily increased my roll, while still continuing to play in the same events I have all year.
I will also take a shot - roughly once every week, or maybe once every two weeks.
This is usually in one tourney that is beyond my 100 buyin limit.
Example: Lets say I'm playing with 600 on ACR, I might take a shot in a 10 or even 15 dollar buyin event once every two weeks.
Adi8877
Visionary
Silver Level
In my opinion, it depends on what level you are playing. Micro, low level, if you know, you are better than average, it is not really necessary. Personally, I do not mind the 20-30 buyin bankrolls on those levels in some given poker rooms. Mid,high level definitely a must. Of course, everything depends on your wallet, purpose of your playing.
And there is the tilt effect, especially if you play rebuy tourneys...
And there is the tilt effect, especially if you play rebuy tourneys...
Alizona
Visionary
Bronze Level
I am very strict about proper bankroll management, and yes I use the 100 rule.
I don't deposit real money onto sites, I play freeroll tournaments and grind up a bankroll from there.
On one site, I started fast, 2nd place in the very first 3.30 I was able to play for a nice 172 roll... then it fell all the way back down to 25 over the next 12-18 months and I thought it was pretty much over... but then I went on a real heater and within a month I was over 700.
On another site (smaller site) I won 2 dollars and worked it up to about 13, then back down to 7, but after a year of trying, it felt like I was never going to break out of my rut... but just recently I took a 2nd and a 3rd to get up to a 60 bankroll.
It's much more difficult to succeed on the smaller site because the tournaments are very small fields with very small prize pools... for the very first time, I can follow the 100 rule on that site, with my 60 roll I'm playing the 0.55 tournament every evening to grind it up slowly but surely.
Since I don't deposit, I can NEVER afford to go broke, I don't ever want to have to start over from zero... so that is why I follow the 100 rule so religiously, because it means I should never go broke even if I run into the coldest of cold streaks.
I don't deposit real money onto sites, I play freeroll tournaments and grind up a bankroll from there.
On one site, I started fast, 2nd place in the very first 3.30 I was able to play for a nice 172 roll... then it fell all the way back down to 25 over the next 12-18 months and I thought it was pretty much over... but then I went on a real heater and within a month I was over 700.
On another site (smaller site) I won 2 dollars and worked it up to about 13, then back down to 7, but after a year of trying, it felt like I was never going to break out of my rut... but just recently I took a 2nd and a 3rd to get up to a 60 bankroll.
It's much more difficult to succeed on the smaller site because the tournaments are very small fields with very small prize pools... for the very first time, I can follow the 100 rule on that site, with my 60 roll I'm playing the 0.55 tournament every evening to grind it up slowly but surely.
Since I don't deposit, I can NEVER afford to go broke, I don't ever want to have to start over from zero... so that is why I follow the 100 rule so religiously, because it means I should never go broke even if I run into the coldest of cold streaks.
Alizona
Visionary
Bronze Level
I should mention something that could be important... satellites!!
The reason my bankroll jumped from 25 all the way up to 700 is because once I got to around 200 roll, I was able to play 2.20 satellites, and I won a ticket into a 20+2 which I made a really deep run for my biggest score on that site to date.
So even if you follow the 100 rule, don't forget you can still find your way into much bigger events. Satellites are high risk, you basically have to "go deep" in two consecutive events to make decent money... but if you are confident in your game, I say "go for it"!!! GL at the tables.
The reason my bankroll jumped from 25 all the way up to 700 is because once I got to around 200 roll, I was able to play 2.20 satellites, and I won a ticket into a 20+2 which I made a really deep run for my biggest score on that site to date.
So even if you follow the 100 rule, don't forget you can still find your way into much bigger events. Satellites are high risk, you basically have to "go deep" in two consecutive events to make decent money... but if you are confident in your game, I say "go for it"!!! GL at the tables.