MAGICUZ
Legend
Bronze Level
Do you feel like you're getting better or worse at poker as time passes?
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caracaski220
Visionary
Bronze Level
caracaski220
The truth is, that the more I learn, the less I feel I know. Though I have greatly improved, there are times that I feel that I won more when I knew less. In other words, winning hug pots by making plays I would now consider unplayable.
The truth is, that the more I learn, the less I feel I know. Though I have greatly improved, there are times that I feel that I won more when I knew less. In other words, winning hug pots by making plays I would now consider unplayable.
Blamegame7
Rising Star
Bronze Level
I've been playing for about the same amount of time. I felt a dip in my game when I actually became "better"
Adapting is the biggest part of the game though. No matter how good you are or how much you research, you won't win them all. Each table and player is different. I find that "when in Rome..." helps me more than not sometimes. My goal is to not necessarily win tournaments. I'm shooting for a cashout spot every time.
Adapting is the biggest part of the game though. No matter how good you are or how much you research, you won't win them all. Each table and player is different. I find that "when in Rome..." helps me more than not sometimes. My goal is to not necessarily win tournaments. I'm shooting for a cashout spot every time.
makisaa
Legend
Loyaler
The most I play the better I become, and thats why I continue playing. The experience gathering makes you better player. It is natural and logic. Now if this does not happen to you, it might means that you are not concentrated in the game and your targets.
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TomCj
Rock Star
Bronze Level
For Better or Worse
I feel I have gotten better at playing over the years
but my greatest issue at the table
is self-discipline
Often, when I know I should fold a hand,
I will stay in and get beat, depleting my bankroll
and all too often, costing me the lead and/or the game
But I'm working on it
TC
I feel I have gotten better at playing over the years
but my greatest issue at the table
is self-discipline
Often, when I know I should fold a hand,
I will stay in and get beat, depleting my bankroll
and all too often, costing me the lead and/or the game
But I'm working on it
TC
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odonob
Visionary
Platinum Level
A lot of luck in the game. Gus Hansen said winning is 90% luck. So let’s analyse that statement. That leaves a skill percentage of just 10%. So even if you do improve (or more importantly ‘think’ you improve) you are not getting much of an edge. Once you know the basics there are no huge margins to play with. You can play the stronger hand consecutively 3,4 or 5 times and lose each time. This negates any perceived skill level you may think you have.
CDNMAN 42
Legend
Platinum Level
A Long Time
I fully understand where you are coming from, I starting playing Poker (Dealer's Choice) at a young age and have played regularly on line and live for about 15 years. I too have noticed a decline in my stats, obviously todays players are more attuned to Math as well as using software helpers and HUDs. Those of us from the Old School rely primarily upon player tendencies, position and of course cards. and this I guess is not a positive defence to the new players and their software...playing by the seat of the pants is still fun just not as profitable
I fully understand where you are coming from, I starting playing Poker (Dealer's Choice) at a young age and have played regularly on line and live for about 15 years. I too have noticed a decline in my stats, obviously todays players are more attuned to Math as well as using software helpers and HUDs. Those of us from the Old School rely primarily upon player tendencies, position and of course cards. and this I guess is not a positive defence to the new players and their software...playing by the seat of the pants is still fun just not as profitable
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KITAYAWA
Rock Star
Silver Level
Yes, I completely agree with you. Understanding the game does not mean following these rules.
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slothi
Rock Star
Silver Level
I do think my game has improved...whether it's through learning theory, analyzing my played hands, or simply gaining experience in the game and at the tables.....all of which have improved me... .I just fear and know that I can and should continue to learn and improve a lot 😉
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Holdem Tycoon
Rock Star
Bronze Level
it seems that placing in the money, in multi table tourneys is a good yard stick to measure against to see if your game holds up, to see if your improving. I find it impressive when watching live pros, and the details of their cashes in tourneys are shown or talked about. We all know, we don’t always get cards or luck. Some are very impressive.
10gerka
Visionary
Platinum Level
every year that passes my game in poker is improving, before I was a tremendous novice, and every year I am learning many things about poker, and I think that if I compare my beginnings and now we have a big difference, in terms of results, I have always done better when I started to study the game a lot, now I'm doing well, hopefully I will continue to reap good results.
SopianaeExtra
between my 2 ears
Bronze Level
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BlackIce
Enthusiast
Silver Level
It's really hard to win freerolls, i think the play styles change by the buy-in amount.
I feel playing poker with like 6-20$ buyin is more like playing poker.
BetterThanAvgButNotByMuch
Visionary
Bronze Level
I stopped playing for years and I see that the top of the pile in poker has gotten really better. And I got this impression by using the internet and seeing what folks are doing and how they think about the games/situations and even a lot of the rec players that I see here with their feedback on the message board have really surprised me with some of their responses to situations but when I play the freerolls either on the site or in the CardsChat sponored ones, they're basically the same type of players from years and years ago who weren't so good with a few exceptions, lol. And what I mean with a "few exceptions" are folks that know starting hands, know tourn structure, can read a flop and can get away from certain hands etc so they're actually decent if not good.
And yeah, I know this comes off as condescending and arrogant, but really, "How many times do I have to see someone go all in with Ax in the beginning of a tourn with 50-100BBs!!!! Or they miss the board with AK, AQ go all in again with an absurd amount of BBs on the flop or turn and get called with someone holding top pair with a good kicker or better!!! or etc etc lol.
As for whether someone is getting better or worse, I mean, you shouldn't judge your play based on results. Let me type that again!!! You shouldn't judge your play by your end results.
You should be using a spreadsheet or a program like poker tracker or a paid service like Advanced Poker Trainer or Poker Snowie to actually keep track of how well you play actual situations, positions and hands. So the first thing I would advise you to do is to find an accurate and dependable way to measure your play and not to go by how much you won/lost playing at a cash game or your placing in a tourn.
The second thing you need is find out what the ideal statistics are and try to get there. Like there are stats of a certain percentage of hands you should be playing preflop or how much you should be defending your blinds, what are the normal stats for winning or losing at certain positions and compare your stats to those to see where you are, how many times are you cbetting or 4 betting someone and you need to know what the ideal amount of times you should be doing things like that.
So find out how to measure your play, find out what those results should be when compared to an "ideal" player and then work on getting there so you know exactly where you are on becoming a better player and working on actual measurable results.
And yeah, I know this comes off as condescending and arrogant, but really, "How many times do I have to see someone go all in with Ax in the beginning of a tourn with 50-100BBs!!!! Or they miss the board with AK, AQ go all in again with an absurd amount of BBs on the flop or turn and get called with someone holding top pair with a good kicker or better!!! or etc etc lol.
As for whether someone is getting better or worse, I mean, you shouldn't judge your play based on results. Let me type that again!!! You shouldn't judge your play by your end results.
You should be using a spreadsheet or a program like poker tracker or a paid service like Advanced Poker Trainer or Poker Snowie to actually keep track of how well you play actual situations, positions and hands. So the first thing I would advise you to do is to find an accurate and dependable way to measure your play and not to go by how much you won/lost playing at a cash game or your placing in a tourn.
The second thing you need is find out what the ideal statistics are and try to get there. Like there are stats of a certain percentage of hands you should be playing preflop or how much you should be defending your blinds, what are the normal stats for winning or losing at certain positions and compare your stats to those to see where you are, how many times are you cbetting or 4 betting someone and you need to know what the ideal amount of times you should be doing things like that.
So find out how to measure your play, find out what those results should be when compared to an "ideal" player and then work on getting there so you know exactly where you are on becoming a better player and working on actual measurable results.
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10gerka
Visionary
Platinum Level
every year that passes I feel that I am learning and improving a lot in my game, and that is the most important thing, as for the results I have always done very well, but we must always focus on improving our game and have solid and winning strategies, and for sure the results will come by themselves, to continue throwing desire and hard work.
Matt_Burns88
Legend
Loyaler
Depending on what day you ask me, I'd probably give you a different answer.
What I will say is that 15 years ago, the fields were WAAAAYYY softer than today. Poker was riding the crest of a wave in the late 00's with lots of rec's and not a lot of reg's and pros. The literature and training wasn't out there and most people had no idea how to really play.
Today, a lot of the whales have either improved or stopped playing and even the weakest players have some semblance on an understanding of the game. So you have to play a much more fundamentally sound strategy, just to be able to compete.
How often do you play and what so of sized fields do you normally play?
nuttea
Visionary
Bronze Level
learn to analyze first.Short distance results If you've played less than 20k cash hands or less than 1k MTT tournaments, the results will say almost nothing about your level. Such a distance can be considered the minimum for at least intermediate results. More serious conclusions about the level of skill can be drawn after 100k hands or 5k tournaments, but they will not be final, especially in MTTs. Therefore, you should not be too happy or upset about the results of 500 hands. Better focus on the quality of your hands.