I would like to know the difference. Also whats a good ratio for both.
I think I am c-betting maybe too much 80 percent. Mostly if it is a tight table. :elefant:
I would like to know the difference. Also whats a good ratio for both.
I think I am c-betting maybe too much 80 percent. Mostly if it is a tight table. :elefant:
For the past 2 days I’ve been loosing tournaments like crazy. Loss somewhere in between $100-$150 bucks playing in about 10 tournaments. I was racking my brains because I knew something was missing. There’s something I was doing that I had stopped doing but I didn’t know what it was. I would last a while but couldn’t get pass 10,000 chips. Then the blinds would go up and next thing you know I’d get eliminated. I had $4 dollars and enrolled in a $1 tournament. I was ready to hang poker all up together until I realized during that tournament it was value betting. I wasn’t value betting. Whenever I did get a good hand I would just go all in. I wasn’t getting any value so my stack wouldn’t increase. I got knocked out of that tournament to but before I did I had reached 20,413 chips! 😀 I know what to do now. See ya on the felt!
I would like to know the difference. Also whats a good ratio for both.
I think I am c-betting maybe too much 80 percent. Mostly if it is a tight table.
First thank you so mych, for the time you put into a reply. The information is always appreciated! I heard Gus hansen talk once about c-betting and that its more profitable in the long run. and some other stuff I just didnt get. Ok, so I looked at my last 6k hands, and Im c-betting 59-61 percent with any stack. Im 3-betting 9 percent of the time(so im pretty scared here or I dont 3-bet unless my hand is very strong. I did hear someone say once, that i "potted" everyhand. But to be honest the guy folded everytime, so why not. Thank you so much for a great reply! And good luck on the felts.A continuation bet (C-bet) is a bet made on the flop by the Original Raiser (OR). Usually your opponent(s) miss the flop and feel like they have to fold to the betting. Often the table will check to the OR because the OR's preflop raise is saying that they have a very strong hand. The C-bet is not necessarily a bluff. If the OR is raising with a strong hand it is often still good on the flop.
So, I like c-betting on a tight table. If I was at that table and noticed that you were c-betting ~80% of the time then I would be eager to get into a hand with you from the blinds and check raise on the flop to try to take the pot.
A good sized c-bet (for me) depends on number of players in the hand, texture of the flop, and the results of my previous c-bets (did my opponents raise every c-bet I made?). So size can be 1/3 or 1/2 or even full pot sized bet.
Value betting is on the river when you know you have the best hand and are betting to get more chips in the pot. Or another way of saying it is to get more "value" from your hand vs. your opponent's hand.
So a value bet should be properly sized to get the maximum from your opponent - even though they have an inferior hand. Sometimes you will hear someone say, "That was the perfect size for me to call...ugh!"
It is very important to realize value from your superior hand. So, sometimes the bet size can be so small that your opponent feels like he has to call because the pot-odds are just too great for him to fold. And hey, maybe he has a pair or two and you have trips. A value bet on the river might be as small as 1/4 of the pot or less. But if I have trips and I think he has 2 pair - then i'm betting larger - maybe 2/3 of the pot or more if I think he will call.
And, of course if you have the stone-cold nuts and are last to act you must.....MUST...bet and that would be a value bet.
Good luck !
A cbet is made when someone raises preflop and the bets again on the flop as a continuation bet. A good cbet ratio is 60-70% You really dont want to cbet any higher than this as you wil have way to many bluffs in your hand.
A value bet is exactly what is says. Its a bet when you are trying to extract value from your hand. Say I raise and you all with 22 and flop a 2. On the river I check and you would make a value bet wanting to be called and gain value for your hand. There is no percentage to give you as if you don't have a hand that I can call with that you beat there is no value in betting.
First thank you so mych, for the time you put into a reply. The information is always appreciated! I heard Gus hansen talk once about c-betting and that its more profitable in the long run. and some other stuff I just didnt get. Ok, so I looked at my last 6k hands, and Im c-betting 59-61 percent with any stack. Im 3-betting 9 percent of the time(so im pretty scared here or I dont 3-bet unless my hand is very strong. I did hear someone say once, that i "potted" everyhand. But to be honest the guy folded everytime, so why not. Thank you so much for a great reply! And good luck on the felts.
I would like to know the difference. Also whats a good ratio for both.
I think I am c-betting maybe too much 80 percent. Mostly if it is a tight table. :elefant:
It was explained decently well above. for definition sake. You are def. C-betting WAY too much at 80% You should stay around 50-60% long term. The thing is though you're not trying to nail this number on the head. It should happen because you are playing correctly. You decide to C-bet based upon whether or not you think the bet will get through. If you're C-betting then you don't have a hand you want a fold.
I am differentiating these two because if you have a value hand that you are Continuation betting then that would be continuation betting for value - C-bet most often is betting to win the hand before showdown.
You want to Value bet 100% of the time you can. The trick for value betting is not the "betting" because obviously when we have the best hand betting is the easy part, the hard part is getting MAX value knowing exactly how much the opponent will pay off. Going one step further would be getting "thin" value.
A continuation bet (C-bet) is a bet made on the flop by the Original Raiser (OR). Usually your opponent(s) miss the flop and feel like they have to fold to the betting. Often the table will check to the OR because the OR's preflop raise is saying that they have a very strong hand. The C-bet is not necessarily a bluff. If the OR is raising with a strong hand it is often still good on the flop.
So, I like c-betting on a tight table. If I was at that table and noticed that you were c-betting ~80% of the time then I would be eager to get into a hand with you from the blinds and check raise on the flop to try to take the pot.
A good sized c-bet (for me) depends on number of players in the hand, texture of the flop, and the results of my previous c-bets (did my opponents raise every c-bet I made?). So size can be 1/3 or 1/2 or even full pot sized bet.
Value betting is on the river when you know you have the best hand and are betting to get more chips in the pot. Or another way of saying it is to get more "value" from your hand vs. your opponent's hand.
So a value bet should be properly sized to get the maximum from your opponent - even though they have an inferior hand. Sometimes you will hear someone say, "That was the perfect size for me to call...ugh!"
It is very important to realize value from your superior hand. So, sometimes the bet size can be so small that your opponent feels like he has to call because the pot-odds are just too great for him to fold. And hey, maybe he has a pair or two and you have trips. A value bet on the river might be as small as 1/4 of the pot or less. But if I have trips and I think he has 2 pair - then i'm betting larger - maybe 2/3 of the pot or more if I think he will call.
And, of course if you have the stone-cold nuts and are last to act you must.....MUST...bet and that would be a value bet.
Good luck !