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How much to tip? Especially if you haven't won much. Or when you won enough but lost 3 tourneys before? And it doesn't cover your losses or you are in small plus.
 
Herkstwin

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Do all the dealers in that casino do the same thing?
Does the tourney buy-in include a dealer fee?
I do not play tournaments very often, so I am not aware of the tipping protocol. For Bad Beats, that is different - 5-10% is what I am told. Still waiting for my opportunity to tip a dealer for my Bad Beat hand.
 
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How much to tip? Especially if you haven't won much. Or when you won enough but lost 3 tourneys before? And it doesn't cover your losses or you are in small plus.


Previous tournaments shouldn't effect your tipping calculations but re-buys may depending on your personal feelings/bankroll management. In my opinion you should tip based on your profit off a single buy in and have seen ranges of 3-10%, I usually do at least 5%
 
KingCurtis

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I am a pretty good tipper (or at least I think I am). It really depends on how much I won...
 
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Tell him/her to get it from his "employer".
My thoughts were: "Haven't you already taken 2% from my buy-in?"
Do all the dealers in that casino do the same thing?
Does the tourney buy-in include a dealer fee?
I do not play tournaments very often, so I am not aware of the tipping protocol. For Bad Beats, that is different - 5-10% is what I am told. Still waiting for my opportunity to tip a dealer for my Bad Beat hand.
I talked about poker festivals, events. Not about particular casino.
Yes, 1-2%.
Previous tournaments shouldn't effect your tipping calculations but re-buys may depending on your personal feelings/bankroll management. In my opinion you should tip based on your profit off a single buy in and have seen ranges of 3-10%, I usually do at least 5%
Ok, even if it covers your losses.. 1-2% from buy-in plus 5%: you will pay 7% from buy-in? Or even 12%? More than to organizer?
 
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...how can you not tip a dealer? He/she is not responsible for your loses and should be rewarded accordingly. 5% is not unusual.
 
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underdog140

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Tip if you want and don't if you don't want. Dealers are employed and get paid for what they do. Tipping is a nice gesture and I usually always do it when called for but not a required action.

The thought process of using a percent is flawed also. I never tip using percentage. For example if I go out to eat then the tip I leave is between $2 - $5 no matter what the meal total is. I have left some $20 tips the odd time but not often. I look at it this way ..... if I was getting an extra $2 - $5 at my job per hour I would be happy to receive it. To complain about not getting more " Extra " cash is what is wrong with the tipping culture not the people leaving small percentage tips.
 
henriquemaduro

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I tip in cash games, when I won a big pot, because the dealers win from the tips. At tournaments, where i play, the dealers win from the house.
 
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JAAMEZz

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as far as the ettiqutte ive been taught to always tip if you win via river/bad beat also if you win big pot. didnt know about the tourney tipping, although it makes sense.
 
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Jeremy Laninger

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I won a tourney at the borgata in Atlantic City back at the end of June. The dealers were horrible, we had to keep correcting them and tell them they were not right. The tournament had a 10 dollar dealer fee. I have heard to leave a 10 percent tip when you win. That day I didn’t leave anything. The casino I noticed has two different dealers the crap ones for the tournament and the good ones for cash. The tournament dealers there don’t deal other than tournament. I personally think you should tip accordingly. If you win 1000 for first I would usually tip $50.
 
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Riomaa

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Tips should never be asked for. You tip an amount you want because you want to.
 
mariuspoker1

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How much to tip? Especially if you haven't won much. Or when you won enough but lost 3 tourneys before? And it doesn't cover your losses or you are in small plus.
How much you want if you want to do it. To tip the dealer especially when you lost i don't think is needed supposing that he was paid before game with a fix amount of money.:D
 
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Aknight3

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Im honestly surprised a dealer actually asked you or said something to you about a tip...i do tip occasionally but i wouldnt if i was made to seem like i had to or i should
 
jhosept6

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How much to tip? Especially if you haven't won much. Or when you won enough but lost 3 tourneys before? And it doesn't cover your losses or you are in small plus.


if it is a casino and you are regular cash it would be best to tip the end of the session a% considered since the deals live on the tips that players give
 
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I've had them wait at the payout cage. If tournament had a dealer fee, I rarely tip unless I felt I received great service. Your are not obligated to tip. especially if the service is bad.
 
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I always tip if I win anything. I usually tip 10% for tourney winnings and cash games I usually tip a buck or 2 unless it's a really big pot then may go as high as $5. I have never ran into the crappy dealers but if I ever do I will have to decide how to deal with it, no pun intended.:D:D
 
MemphisGrind

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Tip if you want and don't if you don't want. Dealers are employed and get paid for what they do. Tipping is a nice gesture and I usually always do it when called for but not a required action.

The thought process of using a percent is flawed also. I never tip using percentage. For example if I go out to eat then the tip I leave is between $2 - $5 no matter what the meal total is. I have left some $20 tips the odd time but not often. I look at it this way ..... if I was getting an extra $2 - $5 at my job per hour I would be happy to receive it. To complain about not getting more " Extra " cash is what is wrong with the tipping culture not the people leaving small percentage tips.

See this is where your thought process is flawed. just like waiters and waitress they make there money on TIPS the "paycheck" they receive goes to taxes, so when people like you stiff them and do not tip properly they do their job for free. 15% should be mandatory and you go up from their based on how they performed in the food business. With dealers the hourly wage is slightly higher, but still low. and like a waiter or waitress they are there to perform job and should get tipped based on how the job was performed. why you think this is "EXTRA" money is beyond me. Have you ever worked in either industry?
 
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See this is where your thought process is flawed. just like waiters and waitress they make there money on TIPS the "paycheck" they receive goes to taxes, so when people like you stiff them and do not tip properly they do their job for free. 15% should be mandatory and you go up from their based on how they performed in the food business. With dealers the hourly wage is slightly higher, but still low. and like a waiter or waitress they are there to perform job and should get tipped based on how the job was performed. why you think this is "EXTRA" money is beyond me. Have you ever worked in either industry?

My family owns a restaurant .... a portion of everyone's paycheck goes to taxes regardless of what job / carrier choice we make .. I get taxed also it doesn't mean I am entitled to other peoples money.

Its extra money because that is exactly what it is. Your employer pays you for doing a job not the customers. If the customers WANT TO they can tip but certainly isn't required. I know most use a percentage scale to tip but that system is flawed.

Example. I order a steak and drink for $50 and take up the normal amount of time a server uses on a single table. The next day I go in and order a club house and drink for $25. In both cases I am in an out of the restaurant within 30 minutes and get the same quality service from the exact same waiter for each visit. Why should I tip twice as much for the first meal as the second ? Because the first meal cost more isn't a valid reason.
 
MemphisGrind

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My family owns a restaurant .... a portion of everyone's paycheck goes to taxes regardless of what job / carrier choice we make .. I get taxed also it doesn't mean I am entitled to other peoples money.

Its extra money because that is exactly what it is. Your employer pays you for doing a job not the customers. If the customers WANT TO they can tip but certainly isn't required. I know most use a percentage scale to tip but that system is flawed.

Example. I order a steak and drink for $50 and take up the normal amount of time a server uses on a single table. The next day I go in and order a club house and drink for $25. In both cases I am in an out of the restaurant within 30 minutes and get the same quality service from the exact same waiter for each visit. Why should I tip twice as much for the first meal as the second ? Because the first meal cost more isn't a valid reason.

First off your entire paycheck does not go to taxes... If it did and someone came in and said thanks for your service here is 2-5 dollars hope it helps, would you keep working there? probably not. I guess you would be fine if from now on every casino was just pass the deal and every eating establishment was self service? I agree on your example for food. in a perfect world you should not tip more for the same service being done. but it's not a perfect world and there is nothing wrong with tipping a percentage based on the bill.This also includes all the variables.... were they quick, efficient, good attitude, food all there, drinks always refilled do you tip extra for these services? if not then you should. but a dealer is what we are talking about and they get paid per hand. Every time someone slows the game down that cuts into the hourly rate for a dealer and should get tipped accordingly. A dealer is there to make the game run smooth and is a service to the players just like a waiter and waitress is a service to the customer. If you were happy with your service you should have standard % amount you tip for me in cash games it's 3% in food establishment it's 20% no matter what. If I was happy with the way the dealer or waitress did their job it goes up and it's based on the size of the pot or the size of the bill for dealing because larger pots generally take longer amounts of time it even less flawed than waiters and waitresses. All in all you can do what you want, it's your money and your life. It's easy to take people and what they do for granted, all I am saying is think about what these people do for you.
 
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The closest card room to hear has an add on for tournaments that is an offer you can't refuse, and it's supposed to be for the dealers I think. I couldn't imagine a scenario where you should tip more than that in a tournament. I mean, are you going to put it in a jar, or tip each dealer from a multiple table tournament. Sounds ridiculous to me but I have no experience in the matter.
 
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How much to tip? Especially if you haven't won much. Or when you won enough but lost 3 tourneys before? And it doesn't cover your losses or you are in small plus.
Tips should never be asked for, if I was aksed for a tip by a dealer I would reply to the dealer with......."my tip to you would be to not ask for tips" or "Race 2, Horse 3 "
Tell him/her to get it from his "employer".
This ^^^^
Wages in a multi billion $ industry should be such that the workers don't need tips.

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...how can you not tip a dealer? He/she is not responsible for your loses and should be rewarded accordingly. 5% is not unusual.
Easily.

We as players are not responsible for the workers wages, we already pay them with our losses, if that is not enough then they should be paid accordingly by the casino owners.

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See this is where your thought process is flawed. just like waiters and waitress they make there money on TIPS the "paycheck" they receive goes to taxes, so when people like you stiff them and do not tip properly they do their job for free. 15% should be mandatory and you go up from their based on how they performed in the food business. With dealers the hourly wage is slightly higher, but still low. and like a waiter or waitress they are there to perform job and should get tipped based on how the job was performed. why you think this is "EXTRA" money is beyond me. Have you ever worked in either industry?
Then they should get another job that pays a legitimate wage, the only ones stiffing them are the arseholes that employ them, you know, arseholes like Sheldon Adelson. I would never pay a tip if it was mandatory, that is not a tip, that is a charge for no service provided.

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It's easy to take people and what they do for granted, all I am saying is think about what these people do for you.

So how much should we tip the Police, Firemen, Drs, Nurses, The Tax Man, Airline Pilots, Train Drivers, Bank Tellers, Bank Managers, Carpenter, Plumbers, Electricians, and I can go on with every job out there, How much do you personally tip these workers.

:hmmmm:
 
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Then they should get another job that pays a legitimate wage, the only ones stiffing them are the arseholes that employ them, you know, arseholes like Sheldon Adelson. I would never pay a tip if it was mandatory, that is not a tip, that is a charge for no service provided.

So just like I posted above, so I guess you are saying you want too pass the deal in every casino you go too from now on? Or self service, cause if they all just go get another job that pays a legit wage then everyone is gone.

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So how much should we tip the Police, Firemen, Drs, Nurses, The Tax Man, Airline Pilots, Train Drivers, Bank Tellers, Bank Managers, Carpenter, Plumbers, Electricians, and I can go on with every job out there, How much do you personally tip these workers.

These people make a living wage. They are paid for their services by their employer. Waitresses bar tenders and dealers are not. Why is this so difficult to understand?
 
Zorba

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These people make a living wage. They are paid for their services by their employer. Waitresses bar tenders and dealers are not. Why is this so difficult to understand?
LMFAO, all workers should have a living wage paid for by their employer, ESPECIALLY in a multi billion $ profit industry that can afford to pay their workers a decent wage, and give their stockholders a little less. What is so difficult to understand?

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