All in on pokerstars - -670$ but 50% Equity?

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Imadam

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I went all in today for a total of 24 times with 50% equity and a couple 70% equity but lost 22/24 all ins. How is this even remotely possible on pokerstars? I'm starting to think pokerstars is rigged against half decent players. All my sit and gos I've played today are supposed to be wins but ive lost 95% of all the sit and gos today only cashing in 2 and winning first place in one. I lost 92% of my all ins with minimum 40% equity and 3 70% equity situations. But i've won 8% of my all ins. Is anyone else having this problem on pokerstars? Or is it just me whos down 650$ on pokerstars because the pokerstars "randomizer" card dealings? I've took pictures of all my all ins today from poketracker because i thought i was just seeing things but this is real.
 
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Happens to me all the time except I'm usually in the 65 - 98% equity range. It's not a "Pokerstars" thing, it's an "online poker" thing.
 
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that's why it's poker
need some luck also to win all ins
 
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Happens to me all the time except I'm usually in the 65 - 98% equity range. It's not a "Pokerstars" thing, it's an "online poker" thing.
So what does it teach us? Never play your good hands? Only bet with second best pair? I'm really losing the fun in it. No problem to loose with the better hand, even aces cracked, but every single f*** time? Why study if it's all about luck in the end?
 
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So what does it teach us? Never play your good hands? Only bet with second best pair? I'm really losing the fun in it. No problem to loose with the better hand, even aces cracked, but every single f*** time? Why study if it's all about luck in the end?
I'm with you - it's NO fun when that happens all the time, no fun at all. You can do everything right, all the time, and it just doesn't matter.

What does it teach us? Well it's taught me that poker is pure gambling, just not as exciting as the bright, shiny slots with the adrenaline pumping sounds.

I think that's why GGPoker went so big so quickly. It's all glossy facade with them. And that's working to take business away from the more boring sites like Pokerstars.

** Not to sound TOTALLY pessimistic, I CAN win consistently if I minimize the effect of luck. I do that by playing single table (preferably 6-max) Sit & Go's. **

** Also, although I love PLO & OMHL there is a massive amount of luck in play with those games. **
 
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There is a reason most online bankroll management recommends 100 buy ins.
 
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A brutal downswing,,,,keep playing,things will 'even' out,,,you will win 22/24 soon! :deal:
 
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Rip you got very unlucky lol. Here's to hoping you hit a win streak like that soon to balance it out.
 
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LoL.

What does this tell you?

I'm not sure where going "all-in" began being considered playing poker. You want to play bingo You are going to win some and lose some. You have to see flops or your going to run into this type of result.

(Also, not sure how "all the SNGs you played were supposed to be wins" but that I'm sure should be a separate thread .)
 
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Maybe you're playing a turbo game where players have wider range shoving and calling
I'd try to avoid flips as much as humanly possible and see more flops
 
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Based on your message, I can only draw one conclusion: you do not analyze your game and the game of your opponents in specialized programs. I say this because at first I did not do it myself. But after a while, analyzing my game, my losses began to decrease.
 
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So what does it teach us? Never play your good hands? Only bet with second best pair? I'm really losing the fun in it. No problem to loose with the better hand, even aces cracked, but every single f*** time? Why study if it's all about luck in the end?


Based on my experience, it is not a brutal downswing, unluck or whatever else they call it in the mainstream.

First of all, it does not teach anything, except the online poker has almost no connection to the live poker. You have an RNG what you have to play against first, and there are still the other opponents at the table. I think all of the 'education, study' out there, what they try to sell or offer free is a garbage, otherwise everybody would be a winning player, and be honest profitable players are 5-10%.

If I try to play normal, I mean what works for me most of the time in live, works online 1 day out of 7. If you are registered on any site, made deposit, than you can find the profitable players at the table, and see how they deal with it. More worthy than waste time, money for any free or paid 'education, study' what are circulating out there.

Anyway, you will never get back the runs like this, as probably you won't play with starting hands like that, even if you do, the runs like that quiet insane, hard to catch. It is more about understanding poker sites business policy, they run the sites for the money, too. It is pretty basic. Then understand a bit the RNGs, as it is a program, not a human dealer, so never will result the same, especially if the patterns, set ups how they are.

By the way, the topic starter example is common, far not the worst category I face. Like losing 60-70% of the pre-allin 80-98% for me hands through days.... Facing with the 1-3 cards falling in outs on river, backdoor straight and flush series etc.

Actually, the 'good' pre-flop hands are burning 50%+ for me, since weeks, just the 2 best one. AA is the worst, I won around 30-35% of them in the last 2 weeks, on FT, FT bubble more likely I am out with them, even prefer to go allin short hand with small pairs or suited connectors like 67, 78, 89. The other one the KK, a bit better, but definitely under 50%. do not mention the AKs. These are patterns, what are coming and going, obviously it set up come more often than in live - some of the series almost never can happen in live as the probability is so small, that you need to play decades to get one, meantime online it can come every week or month. These patterns generate to play more, lose more, so they earn more, pretty obvious, they do it for money, too.

I left ps long time ago, only playing there freerolls, as it is even more insane than other sites, + they charge you more for it.

By the way, if you have enough bankroll, you can count on them, as some of them are visible, recognizeable. Last time after a normal day, was a bit profitable, I saw it coming, but my bankroll was so low, I afraid to play on them, if I do I would have had 3 FT, at least, instead of that, I played the normal way, so I relegate early.... My biggest wins, includes hand plays, what looks insane, but I must do it, as I know with the pre-flop 'good' cards, starting hands, most likely they take me down one point with some much worse pre-flop hands. (Just happened in the last week on FTs AA vs AJo, A8 vs K8, AA vs 33, A10 vs 109 plus i had a top set on flop vs a backdoor poker...) So yes, if I see I lose with the 'good' cards, or must fold them, but I would win 2 out of 3 times with any random crap from UTG or UTG+1, I play for them, if it is not a fold-allin phase, sometimes even go preflop allins, as I focus more for RNG than poker.

And yes, it is no fun at all, I think for nobody, except bot users, and companies. But I do not play online poker for fun, at all.

Focus for RNG, rather than believe in the live probability, variance, that just don't work most of the time. And if it is like that again and again, it is not a coincidence.

Have you ever watched, thought about the players whose have 10x, 20x or more stack, like the starting stack at the end of the late reg??? If I play 'normal', it rarely happens, as I need so good cards + luck never get take it down by some weaker hands, that it happened few times in a month that I was in top 10 when late reg, rebuy ended. But I saw some regulars whose had high stack plenty times and were profitable, reached FT, FT bubble quiet often, so watch them, instead of 'study' or pay for any advertised material, even watch, read the free things. You will be surprised, pretty much!
 
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