Would You Have Called?

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richardph

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I'll be the first to admit I'm a bit of a newbie. I've only been playing hold'em for about a year, but I've been gambling for about 30 (maybe that's my problem). Here's the hand;

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pokerstars Game #5981146229: Tournament #30291919, 375FPP Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/08/19 - 23:03:52 (ET)
Table '30291919 3' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: boomer67a (1460 in chips)
Seat 2: rebern (210 in chips)
Seat 3: ayceman (1740 in chips)
Seat 4: kdawg27 (3060 in chips)
Seat 5: zutmin (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: Wallstreet12 (1250 in chips)
Seat 7: pearljam714 (1440 in chips)
Seat 8: Richardph (1400 in chips)
Seat 9: 7D~DoC (1470 in chips)
Richardph: posts small blind 15
7D~DoC: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Richardph [6c As]
boomer67a: folds
rebern: calls 30
ayceman: calls 30
kdawg27: folds
zutmin: folds
Wallstreet12: calls 30
pearljam714: folds
Richardph: calls 15
7D~DoC: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ac 8s 5s]
Richardph: checks
7D~DoC: checks
rebern: checks
ayceman: bets 30
Wallstreet12: calls 30
Richardph: calls 30
7D~DoC: folds
rebern: folds
*** TURN *** [Ac 8s 5s] Q♠
Richardph: bets 90
ayceman: folds
Wallstreet12: raises 390 to 480
Richardph: calls 390
*** RIVER *** [Ac 8s 5s Qs] 5♣
Richardph: checks
Wallstreet12: bets 530
Richardph: calls 530
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Wallstreet12: shows [2h 3h] (a pair of Fives)
Richardph: shows [6c As] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
Richardph collected 2260 from pot
Wallstreet12 said, "lol"
Wallstreet12 said, "how can u call"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2260 | Rake 0
Board [Ac 8s 5s Qs 5c]
Seat 1: boomer67a folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: rebern folded on the Flop
Seat 3: ayceman folded on the Turn
Seat 4: kdawg27 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: zutmin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Wallstreet12 showed [2h 3h] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 7: pearljam714 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Richardph (small blind) showed [6c As] and won (2260) with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 9: 7D~DoC (big blind) folded on the Flop

I figured maybe Wallstreet hit a pair of Q on the turn. when he raised it up on the river he was representing trip 5's or even possible FH. But I didn't buy it and thought my A's and 5's were still the best hand so I called.
Wallstreet seemed very suprised by my call "How could u call?", "It makes
no sense?" What makes no sense to me is his raising it up while holding nothing. I mean, aren't we supposed to "call a bluff" once in awhile? The fact that I had the best hand seemed of no consequence to him.
Comments appreciated. Thanks
 
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Overbets of the pot often scream "I have garbage and I'm trying to buy the pot - now go away!", and is a popular bet by players trying to bluff at pots. The fact that he's played almost 600 SnGs and is berating you for a bad play is pretty funny, since Wallstreet12 is nothing but a horrible player, based on sharkscope.com stats (-$1,431, according to them).

Nice read, nice call. Next time some idiot like this harasses you for making a good call, keep quiet for a bit and then reply, "I'm sorry, did you say something? I was too busy counting your chips!" to really set him on tilt.
 
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http://www.pokerhand.org/?463397
I am an unremorsful SB calling station, and it's payed off for me, but personally I wouldn't have touched that one with a 30' bargepole. This is just the kind of thing that gives the SB such a bad rep. Don't be results oriented. When you play from this position, you're playing the pot odds and laying back waiting for a very special flop or, in some cases weak post flop betting will allow a str8 or a flush draw to crystalize. But A6 is a poor candidate for survival.
Limp in preflop
Call the 30 on the flop
Check the turn.
You had maybe 10 outs with 1 to come, I wouldn't have called more than 1/4 the pot and probably not that.
 
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good read and nice call, i might have re-raised him just to see what he would do, but you won the hand, and thats what counts>>>buck:hello:
 
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buckster436 said:
good read and nice call, i might have re-raised him just to see what he would do, but you won the hand, and thats what counts>>>buck:hello:
Buck. I'm surprised at you. You don't really believe that do you?
 
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Oh, come on now. I'm not saying that I agree completely with his call on the turn and river. Those were a little loose. But I do think he either should have led out with a bet (and no, not the minimum!) to see just how strong his Ace is after the flop. Or, since he checked, raised the weak $30 bet.

But the turn now has a flush possiblility, and the river pairs the board which is almost ALWAYS dangerous to anyone holding only top pair at this point. So yeah, he was taking a big gamble on the last streets; if it were me, with top pair/weak kicker I would have gotten out of the way at that point. He took a gamble and got lucky.
 
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