would u call this, on the bubble

[naruto_miu]

Here's the situation, I find myself in these situations all the time, villain aggressive, bully, would u push, even though u know he's going to call,
?

cuz and remember money is one spot away, and short is going all in, in about 3 or 4 hands

pokerstars Game #17939287172: Tournament #90993533, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2008/06/05 - 17:47:01 (ET)
Table '90993533 11' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: JWM05 (1670 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: Merchman2876 (9405 in chips)
Seat 3: Emilio34 (26437 in chips)
Seat 4: ga_dinho (3530 in chips)
Seat 6: abdi122 (7095 in chips)
Seat 8: kojacmartin (15150 in chips)
Seat 9: petitflo (30445 in chips)
JWM05: posts the ante 100
Merchman2876: posts the ante 100
Emilio34: posts the ante 100
ga_dinho: posts the ante 100
abdi122: posts the ante 100
kojacmartin: posts the ante 100
petitflo: posts the ante 100
ga_dinho: posts small blind 500
abdi122: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to abdi122 [Ac 9c]
kojacmartin: folds
petitflo: folds
JWM05: folds
Merchman2876: folds
Emilio34: raises 2000 to 3000
ga_dinho: folds
abdi122 said, "all in, ppl gla"

 

[pantin007]

with an M of about 3.5, i push this
if ur looking to just cash, then fold but if u want to win u should push this

 

[Dr_Dick]

You can make a case for either situation, but it really depends on the payout which is not listed. You paid $2.20, so if 8th pays $2.25 and 1st pays $300 then push all-in because Emilio is probably just using his stack and A9s is probably good.

If instead 8th pays $16 and 1st pays $50 then you are better off folding, use position, and wait for the shorter stacks to get taken out.

 

[naruto_miu]

18th to 10 was 4.32 and then buck all the way 2 108 fair enough, I folded that hand and then this hand came, were still on the bubble and i'm sb this time, what would u do?PokerStars Game #17939309098: Tournament #90993533, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2008/06/05 - 17:48:01 (ET)
Table '90993533 11' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: JWM05 (1570 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: Merchman2876 (9305 in chips)
Seat 3: Emilio34 (28537 in chips)
Seat 4: ga_dinho (2930 in chips)
Seat 6: abdi122 (5995 in chips)
Seat 8: kojacmartin (15050 in chips)
Seat 9: petitflo (30345 in chips)
JWM05: posts the ante 100
Merchman2876: posts the ante 100
Emilio34: posts the ante 100
ga_dinho: posts the ante 100
abdi122: posts the ante 100
kojacmartin: posts the ante 100
petitflo: posts the ante 100
abdi122: posts small blind 500
kojacmartin: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to abdi122 [Jd Jc]
abdi122 said, "what"
petitflo: folds
JWM05: folds
Merchman2876 said, "thought u were calling?"
Merchman2876: folds
Emilio34: raises 2000 to 3000

what would u do now?

 

[pantin007]

insta all in imo, u dont have enuff chips to fold

 

[Dwilius]

come on, same guy bullying the table, you can't be that afraid of the bubble. I don't understand what kind of tourn and payout is this? a buck meaning 3.20?

 

[Joe Slick]

"I have one thing to say....
..... better to burn up, than fade away!" Kurgen in Highlander

Push

 

[naruto_miu]

that's exactly what I was thinking and the trueth is the same dude did this for acouple of hands, anyways here's how it went downPokerStars Game #17939309098: Tournament #90993533, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2008/06/05 - 17:48:01 (ET)
Table '90993533 11' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: JWM05 (1570 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: Merchman2876 (9305 in chips)
Seat 3: Emilio34 (28537 in chips)
Seat 4: ga_dinho (2930 in chips)
Seat 6: abdi122 (5995 in chips)
Seat 8: kojacmartin (15050 in chips)
Seat 9: petitflo (30345 in chips)
JWM05: posts the ante 100
Merchman2876: posts the ante 100
Emilio34: posts the ante 100
ga_dinho: posts the ante 100
abdi122: posts the ante 100
kojacmartin: posts the ante 100
petitflo: posts the ante 100
abdi122: posts small blind 500
kojacmartin: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to abdi122 [Jd Jc]
abdi122 said, "what"
petitflo: folds
JWM05: folds
Merchman2876 said, "thought u were calling?"
Merchman2876: folds
Emilio34: raises 2000 to 3000
ga_dinho: folds
abdi122: raises 2895 to 5895 and is all-in
kojacmartin: folds
Emilio34: calls 2895
*** FLOP *** [7s Kd 2h]
abdi122 said, "gga"
*** TURN *** [7s Kd 2h] [8c]
*** RIVER *** [7s Kd 2h 8c] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
abdi122: shows [Jd Jc] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
Emilio34: shows [Kh Ac] (three of a kind, Kings)
Emilio34 collected 13490 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 13490 | Rake 0
Board [7s Kd 2h 8c Kc]
Seat 1: JWM05 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Merchman2876 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Emilio34 showed [Kh Ac] and won (13490) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 4: ga_dinho (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: abdi122 (small blind) showed [Jd Jc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 8: kojacmartin (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: petitflo folded before Flop (didn't bet)

 

[Dwilius]

Those are the breaks, there's no guarantee the shortstacks losing and you're not far behind. You gave yourself a chance to make more than the minimum.

 

[naruto_miu]

ya that's true, but just sucked hahah, I could've folded and squeezed into the money, but I mean, 4 bucks come on, it's not much more then the buyin itself

 

[Dr_Dick]

with JJ you had to push, especially against the same guy. That is just the breaks.

 

[nevadanick]

Something isn't right here. Supposedly there was 1 to the bubble (payout starts at 18 per OP), that would be 19 players left. Anyone ever see a full 9 seat table with 3 tables left?? At Stars ??? (never happen).

Looks like it had already reached 18 (both hands shown were 9 seated).

 

[Dwilius]

There were 7/6/6 and i guess buck means nothing, that confused me at first.

 

[naruto_miu]

oh sry the payoureally was 4.60 or something like that for 10-18th, and I just happend to be 19th, lol