worst 3 consecutives hands I've ever got

[nicoiko]

I'm just disgusted.
Believe it or not : those are three hands in a row (and it is not the only ones : many more since 3 or 4 days)

First one :

pokerstars Game #8081316204: Tournament #41088649, $10+$1 Holdem No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/01/23 - 07:23:38 (ET)
Table 41088649 7 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Carmi888 (2415 in chips)
Seat 2: filpac (1820 in chips)
Seat 3: Hoggsnake (1330 in chips)
Seat 4: chemybrat (1090 in chips)
Seat 5: slaney26 (5745 in chips)
Seat 6: nicoiko (1650 in chips)
Seat 7: phillip_339 (1395 in chips)
Seat 8: RedBluff21 (2285 in chips)
Seat 9: bennybt9 (930 in chips)
slaney26: posts small blind 15
nicoiko: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nicoiko [7d Jd]
phillip_339: calls 30
RedBluff21: folds
bennybt9: folds
Carmi888: folds
filpac: calls 30
Hoggsnake: calls 30 --> tight passive player
chemybrat: calls 30
slaney26: calls 15
nicoiko: checks
*** FLOP *** [6h 2d 9d]
slaney26: checks
nicoiko: checks
phillip_339: checks
filpac: checks
Hoggsnake: checks
chemybrat: checks
*** TURN *** [6h 2d 9d] 5♥
slaney26: checks
nicoiko: bets 100
phillip_339: folds
filpac: folds
Hoggsnake: calls 100
chemybrat: folds
slaney26: folds
*** RIVER *** [6h 2d 9d 5h] 8♥
nicoiko: bets 200
Hoggsnake: raises 310 to 510
nicoiko: calls 310
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hoggsnake: shows [Th Jh] (a flush, Jack high)
nicoiko: mucks hand
Hoggsnake collected 1400 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1400 | Rake 0
Board [6h 2d 9d 5h 8h]
Seat 1: Carmi888 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: filpac folded on the Turn
Seat 3: Hoggsnake showed [Th Jh] and won (1400) with a flush, Jack high
Seat 4: chemybrat (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: slaney26 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: nicoiko (big blind) mucked [7d Jd]
Seat 7: phillip_339 folded on the Turn
Seat 8: RedBluff21 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 9: bennybt9 folded before Flop (didnt bet)

Then the next one (the more hurting one for me):

PokerStars Game #8081322023: Tournament #41088649, $10+$1 Holdem No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/01/23 - 07:24:49 (ET)
Table 41088649 7 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Carmi888 (2415 in chips)
Seat 2: filpac (1790 in chips)
Seat 3: Hoggsnake (2090 in chips)
Seat 4: chemybrat (1060 in chips)
Seat 5: slaney26 (5715 in chips)
Seat 6: nicoiko (1010 in chips)
Seat 7: phillip_339 (1365 in chips)
Seat 8: RedBluff21 (2285 in chips)
Seat 9: bennybt9 (930 in chips) --> really loose player
nicoiko: posts small blind 15
phillip_339: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nicoiko [7s 7h]
RedBluff21: folds
bennybt9: raises 60 to 90
Carmi888: folds
filpac: folds
Hoggsnake: folds
chemybrat: folds
slaney26: folds
nicoiko: raises 920 to 1010 and is all-in
phillip_339: folds
bennybt9: calls 840 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [8s 9c Ad]
*** TURN *** [8s 9c Ad] A♠
*** RIVER *** [8s 9c Ad As] 9♦
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nicoiko: shows [7s 7h] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
bennybt9: shows [Jh Th] (two pair, Aces and Nines - Jack kicker)
bennybt9 collected 1890 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1890 | Rake 0
Board [8s 9c Ad As 9d]
Seat 1: Carmi888 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: filpac folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: Hoggsnake folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: chemybrat folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: slaney26 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: nicoiko (small blind) showed [7s 7h] and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 7: phillip_339 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: RedBluff21 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 9: bennybt9 showed [Jh Th] and won (1890) with two pair, Aces and Nines

And to be sure i will be angry look at that one ( As quad on the flop with only one already in hand )

PokerStars Game #8081325252: Tournament #41088649, $10+$1 Holdem No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/01/23 - 07:25:30 (ET)
Table 41088649 7 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Carmi888 (2415 in chips)
Seat 2: filpac (1790 in chips)
Seat 3: Hoggsnake (2090 in chips)
Seat 4: chemybrat (1060 in chips)
Seat 5: slaney26 (5715 in chips)
Seat 6: nicoiko (80 in chips)
Seat 7: phillip_339 (1335 in chips)
Seat 8: RedBluff21 (2285 in chips)
Seat 9: bennybt9 (1890 in chips)
phillip_339: posts small blind 15
RedBluff21: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nicoiko [7s 7d]
bennybt9: folds
Carmi888: folds
filpac: folds
Hoggsnake: folds
chemybrat: folds
nicoiko said, "come onnnnnnnn"
slaney26: raises 120 to 150
nicoiko: calls 80 and is all-in
phillip_339: folds
RedBluff21: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ah Ad As]
*** TURN *** [Ah Ad As] 3♦
*** RIVER *** [Ah Ad As 3d] 4♣
*** SHOW DOWN ***
slaney26: shows [Ac Kh] (four of a kind, Aces)
nicoiko: shows [7s 7d] (a full house, Aces full of Sevens)
slaney26 collected 205 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 205 | Rake 0
Board [Ah Ad As 3d 4c]
Seat 1: Carmi888 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: filpac folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: Hoggsnake folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: chemybrat folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: slaney26 showed [Ac Kh] and won (205) with four of a kind, Aces
Seat 6: nicoiko (button) showed [7s 7d] and lost with a full house, Aces full of Sevens
Seat 7: phillip_339 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: RedBluff21 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: bennybt9 folded before Flop (didnt bet)

Now tell me how can I think all this isn't rigged.

By the way if somebody could point me on errors I made (as I probably did) on these 3 hands he will be welcome.

 

[Ronaldadio]

I take it this is your idea of a joke???

 

[Welly]

The mistake you made was not going to make yourself a 'nice cup-of-tea'. (prior to hand 1). To summarise, poor Tea Management.

 

[nicoiko]

The mistake you made was not going to make yourself a 'nice cup-of-tea'. (prior to hand 1). To summarise, poor Tea Management.

Maybe is it my poor english but I don't understand this.
Is it : 1) Why the hell have you played these hands ?
or 2) There is nothing you can do about it.

I think it is 1 as I believe my play was bad on the first and second hand.
Do no let a poor french player doubtful please

 

[Welly]

Maybe is it my poor english but I don't understand this.
Is it : 1) Why the hell have you played these hands ?
or 2) There is nothing you can do about it.

I think it is 1 as I believe my play was bad on the first and second hand.
Do no let a poor french player doubtful please

I must admit I thought you were joking basically because JTs is favourite over your 77 and Against AKos, 77 is slightly more powerful, but still it's coin flip territory.

If all your chips go in pre-flop (as in cases 2&3) then how the board plays out is irrelevant really. IE 77 is still an underdog to JTs regardless if it wins through hitting a jack, or hitting a backdoor straight.

With No.1, you are betting the turn on a semi-bluff. When he flat calls, it suggests possible draw. Probably better to check-call when the heart comes.

Also, with the blinds as small as 30 chips, it is overcommitting to play 1010 chips pre-flop really with any hand bar aces.

Welly

 

[nicoiko]

Thanks Welly. Sadly i was not joking. I felt something wrong on the way I played these hand but wanted a confirmation of where exactly the mistakes were.

To be honnest I think for 1 my bet is a little weak.
As I saw him as a very tight player I might think he has a game already done and didn't put him an a draw.
But there he would probably have raised.
So I should confess I was a bit lost after that turn.
Then the river card was the worst for me.
Giving me a good hand (straight) but giving him the flush if he was on a draw.
When he raises on my bet I was 90% sure he hits his card but with a straight I couldn't assume a fold there.

Basically the second one I think I read him good : his 3* BB let me think about something like Ax or figures or suited connectors.
Then again my mistake was to make such a raise. I know he will call me anyway. He did so all the hands I saw him play.
But something like 2 or 3 * his bet should have been better... maybe a flat call and let see what could happen on the flop.
After that you're right it is something like 60/40 maybe (oh man I should consult the % before playing next time ).
But I also put this hand because of the weird way he beat me.
But hey that is poker. I can't complain about this.

The third one is just there to show that when you're not in a good trip it seems that things goes worse and worse.
With 80 left and a pair I've got to give it a go.
Be beaten with 77 against any Ax I can assume.
Just one A that is OK my hand was not that good.
But 3 A in the flop wooow... I must say I was just laughing in front of my computer telling me "OK I'm not gonna make any bucks today with such draws"

Anyway thanks Welly i've got a lot to learn. And also a lot of work to apply what I know at the moment it happen on the table.

 

[mrsnake3695]

First hand, there is a bettor and a raiser in fornt of you, why don't you think one of them has the flush? With all the draws on the board and that action there is a great chance you are beat, fold to that action.

Second hand, why in the world are you going all-in with a pair of sevens. The best you are here is a coin flip and there is a good possibility there is a higher pair that dominates you. Call and see the flop. Then you can represent the ace or fold if it looks like villan has an ace. There is a greater chance of villan folding after the flop to a raise than pre-flop.

The third one, you had to go all in with the 7s of course, did you expect the AK to fold? I suppose 3 aces coming on the board can never ever happen in poker, it must be rigged, lol. The odds of three aces coming out are exactly the same as 2,4,8 or K,9,5 or any other combination of cards that are left in the deck.

Face it, you missplayed 2 hands, don't try to blame poker being rigged on your mistakes. Learn from them and get better.