Where did I go wrong? *what would you have done?*

[xCashin_inx]

pokerstars Game #16558664071: Tournament #83854930, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2008/04/07 - 15:33:55 (ET)
Table '83854930 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: scootie666 (6384 in chips)
Seat 5: ale79 (4310 in chips)
Seat 6: tomse 69 (10436 in chips)
Seat 8: nolskii (1340 in chips)
Seat 9: xCaShiN_iNx (4530 in chips)
scootie666: posts the ante 25
ale79: posts the ante 25
tomse 69: posts the ante 25
nolskii: posts the ante 25
xCaShiN_iNx: posts the ante 25
tomse 69: posts small blind 100
nolskii: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xCaShiN_iNx [Js Ah]
xCaShiN_iNx said, "lol"
xCaShiN_iNx: raises 200 to 400
scootie666: folds
ale79: calls 400
tomse 69: calls 300
nolskii: folds
*** FLOP *** [Jc 9d 8d]
tomse 69: checks
xCaShiN_iNx: bets 500
ale79: calls 500
tomse 69: raises 500 to 1000
xCaShiN_iNx: calls 500
ale79: calls 500
*** TURN *** [Jc 9d 8d] [As]
tomse 69: bets 2600


Next move????

Ill post the results after ppl give me some advice...

 

[mrsnake3695]

First off, get out of the habit of making mini-bets. Raise more 3-5 times the BB. You're mini-bet invites too many hand in and you won't know where you stand.

The flop bet is too small also. There's 1400 in the pot and you bet 500 giving good odds for draws (and this board is draw heavy) to play.

Villan could have anything here from a hand you dominate to a hand you are behind of. Of course even if you are behind you still have 4 outs to a full house if villan has a set or a straight.

As played, you have top 2 pair which is good and you would dominate any other ace-X hand. Of course you are behind Q-10 and a set. He could also be betting a straight draw or a flush draw. You appear weak to villian with your mini-raise and small flop bet so he could be bluffing too, especially with his big stack which he could be using to push you around with. You just can't know.

In this case I think folding 2 pair would be too weak. With your stack and the size of the pot as well as another player yet to act I would shove here.

I think you put yourself in this position with your mini-bet preflop.

 

[Jillychemung]

This hand is the classic case of how you get into trouble with min bets. You have no idea where you are or what the opponents have.

As played your only choice is to shove.

 

[newfyninja]

I'll agree, you pretty much have to shove. I would have loved to have seen a much bigger bet after the flop. Make the pot odds for a drawing hand to high for a reasonable call.

 

[PorcoSBC]

I think he has A-Xd ... You have 30% of your chips in the middle already... go All in and hope for a friendly river.

 

[t1riel]

To answer your questions, see bold:

PokerStars Game #16558664071: Tournament #83854930, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2008/04/07 - 15:33:55 (ET)
Table '83854930 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: scootie666 (6384 in chips)
Seat 5: ale79 (4310 in chips)
Seat 6: tomse 69 (10436 in chips)
Seat 8: nolskii (1340 in chips)
Seat 9: xCaShiN_iNx (4530 in chips)
scootie666: posts the ante 25
ale79: posts the ante 25
tomse 69: posts the ante 25
nolskii: posts the ante 25
xCaShiN_iNx: posts the ante 25
tomse 69: posts small blind 100
nolskii: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xCaShiN_iNx [Js Ah]
xCaShiN_iNx said, "lol"
xCaShiN_iNx: raises 200 to 400 Raise more preflop. A mini raise isn't going to scare anyone.
scootie666: folds
ale79: calls 400
tomse 69: calls 300
nolskii: folds
*** FLOP *** [Jc 9d 8d]
tomse 69: checks
xCaShiN_iNx: bets 500 With draws galore, you have to bet more than that.
ale79: calls 500
tomse 69: raises 500 to 1000
xCaShiN_iNx: calls 500
ale79: calls 500
*** TURN *** [Jc 9d 8d] A♠
tomse 69: bets 2600


Next move???? Since you miniraised, Q, 10 is possible. Still, judging by his actions, I'd shove.

Ill post the results after ppl give me some advice...

 

[viking999]

I think I'd fold to the raise on the flop. The minraise after two players have committed looks like a pot-building bet. Either a monster made hand or a monster draw. If AJ is ahead here, it's only slightly ahead. The odds are tempting, but the downside is huge and the upside is tiny.

As played on the flop, you can't fold. I'd shove for value. You got the best card in the deck on the turn.

 

[soonerdel]

i say the villian has A-K of diamonds and of course hits a diamond on the river..

 

[ItsMe]

AJo under the gun is tricky - you need to raise - I think you did OK - I'm not sure if raising more puts the callers off.
Check-raise on the flop tells me he is very strong - trips or QT or high J
Turn bet just says if you want to chase your draws then it will cost you.

He most probably has you beat right now and you have potentially 4 outs (~11-1). If you fold then it is possible he will take the other guy out which leaves you 3rd of 4 with 3 getting paid. I would fold I don't like the odds and it is not necessarily a make or break hand.

 

[BelgoSuisse]

Villain has 72o and is using his big stack and your weak betting to steal this pot. Fold has he will get a T on the river for a miracle straight

 

[xCashin_inx]

Turns out he had Q-10, I was beat the whole time. =(