What's your play here?

ksuhart

ksuhart

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Early in PCA step 2 tournament:

pokerstars Game #13295201581: Tournament #67465074, $25+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/11/17 - 11:15:40 (ET)
Table '67465074 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: TigerBig (1755 in chips)
Seat 2: Chiattone (1450 in chips)
Seat 3: Warster (1540 in chips)
Seat 4: Pahrump (1050 in chips)
Seat 5: zjordy (1335 in chips)
Seat 6: ksuhart (1380 in chips)
Seat 7: hit21hit (1530 in chips)
Seat 8: elvis-senior (1940 in chips)
Seat 9: Mingbear (1520 in chips)
hit21hit: posts small blind 10
elvis-senior: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ksuhart [Qh Ah]
Mingbear: folds
TigerBig: folds
Chiattone: raises 60 to 80
Warster: folds
Pahrump: folds
zjordy: calls 80
ksuhart: calls 80
hit21hit: folds
elvis-senior: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qd 9h Qs]
Chiattone: checks
zjordy: checks
ksuhart: checks
*** TURN *** [Qd 9h Qs] 4♥
Chiattone: checks
zjordy: checks
ksuhart: bets 100
Chiattone: calls 100
zjordy: calls 100
*** RIVER *** [Qd 9h Qs 4h] 5♥
Chiattone: checks
zjordy: bets 100
ksuhart: raises 320 to 420
Chiattone: folds
zjordy: raises 320 to 740
ksuhart: ???
 
twizzybop

twizzybop

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Your mistake was cold calling pre-flop, re-raising in late positon would have made 1 or 2 of the other callers fold. Then bet out here on the flop, yet you checked, give you that. Yet by betting only 100 into a pot of 270 gives most chasers almost enough to call with the odds. Make them pay to get thier draws, my guess that one with the re-raise is either K,Q or at best pocket 99's. Also this is early on and calling would eat half your stack but you'd still be in the game.
 
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Bentheman87

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I would probably just call here. You can beat QJ, Queen 10, KQ, a smaller flush. These hands might have called a small preflop raise. He might have AQ also but that's very unlikely since you have a queen and ace. He could also have queen 9, 99, 44 or 55, all of which have you beat. 55 would have folded on the turn though, so we can eliminate that possible hand.

So there are 4+ hands that he could have that you have beat, but only 3 hands that he could have that have you beat (full house). So I would call here but not put in another raise.
 
cjroc

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I think I would have to call here.

I wouldn't have checked the flop though. A decent bet there might have helped you to see where your opponents stood at the time.
 
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Kennyseven

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are you people blind? He has the nut flush....SHOVE!
 
OzExorcist

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are you people blind? He has the nut flush....SHOVE!

There's also possible full houses out there, and the way the hand was played they can't be ignored.
 
Alon Ipser

Alon Ipser

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I would probably just call here. You can beat QJ, Queen 10, KQ, a smaller flush. These hands might have called a small preflop raise. He might have AQ also but that's very unlikely since you have a queen and ace. He could also have queen 9, 99, 44 or 55, all of which have you beat. 55 would have folded on the turn though, so we can eliminate that possible hand.

So there are 4+ hands that he could have that you have beat, but only 3 hands that he could have that have you beat (full house). So I would call here but not put in another raise.

I'll use Bens post because he layed out all your losers. Seems to me if zjordy had any of the hands that have you beat, he would have made bet before the river. Also if he did have a boat and slow played, why didn't he push on the river reraise. My guess is he picked up the flush. You kept it cheap enough for him to chase. I come back over the top with a push.
 
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