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pokerstars Game #12425436365: Tournament #63014293, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/10/03 - 23:27:17 (ET)
Table '63014293 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Emperor IX (2195 in chips)
Seat 3: zachvac (3365 in chips)
Seat 5: blankoblanco (1358 in chips)
Seat 6: Pigpen02 (2810 in chips)
Seat 7: vanquish331 (1719 in chips)
Seat 8: rob5775 (2478 in chips)
Seat 9: reglardave (975 in chips)
reglardave: posts small blind 15
Emperor IX: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to vanquish331 [Qc Qh]
rob5775 said, "he was like AQ no good.... IM A GENIUS"
zachvac: folds
vanquish331 said, "RAWR SOOTED"
Emperor IX said, "LOL"
blankoblanco: raises 60 to 90
Pigpen02: folds
vanquish331: raises 144 to 234
rob5775: folds
reglardave: folds
vanquish331 said, "PLZ NO RAISING"
Emperor IX said, "I just heard a white guy call another white guy ***** in a movie"
Emperor IX said, "briillaint"
vanquish331 said, "lol"
vanquish331 said, "boiler room?"
Emperor IX: calls 204
rob5775 said, "malibus most wanted?"
Emperor IX said, "Running Scared"
blankoblanco said, "well now i HAVE to call"
blankoblanco: calls 144
*** FLOP *** [4d 7c 9c]
vanquish331 said, "boiler room is ballin"
Emperor IX: checks
blankoblanco: checks
rob5775 said, "Malibu's most wanted rocks"
vanquish331: bets 401
vanquish331 said, "fold ill show"
vanquish331 said, "<3"
Emperor IX: calls 401
blankoblanco: raises 723 to 1124 and is all-in

:( combu is good , so...
 
rob5775

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honestly, this would be a hard laydown. It just smacks of a 4 flush push to me... put the problem is Emperor behind you. He might have a hand and just smooth called you, since you were playing very aggressive and will probably fire on the turn.

Huh, still a hard laydown.:(
 
aliengenius

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About 1900 in the pot, 723 to call (if I added right), so you are getting just over 2.5:1 on your money. You beat A9, TT, JJ and the semi-bluff flush draws and straight draws (or T8c for the str-fl draw ?!), although with a lot of them (pair and fl draw, for ex) you are not really that far ahead. One thing to note: we have the Qc in our hand, so that eliminates a LOT of hands that Combu could be "big" semi-bluffing (KcQc, QcJc, QcTc, etc).
You lose to KK, AA, 99, 77, 44, 97 (I think we can discount 74 and 94).

I doubt that Emp. is ahead here, as he has not shown any strength in the hand yet. Against two player he would probably want to defend a set against the flush draw (although I can't say for sure).

One key to consider, however: Combu is raising the continuation better, AND a caller, usually a much bigger sign of strength, and less likely an outright "move", although it could be a squeeze play.

Really tough spot; there are a ton of hands you are behind or are in a very close race with, and there are quite a few you are ahead of against an aggressive player like Combu, and any 50/50 type hands you should call because of the price.

Probably a fold, however: you only have a pair, and will still have around 1100 chips left with blinds still very low.
 
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vanquish

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OK I go into the tank for like 25 seconds here, then I fold,
Emperor calls, shows straight draw, combu has 99 for top set, and takes down a big pot.
 
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I raise a little more PF, but I think you played it fine (v nice laydown). I think combu's too good to be doing this with TT or A9. This is either a big combo draw or a set IMO.
 
Emperor IX

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Yeah I was stupid and priced myself in :( nh vanq/combu.
 
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Yeah I was stupid and priced myself in :( nh vanq/combu.


Roy, you should know better then to call straight draws.

But yeah...this is kind of an iffy lay down...you wanna play this hand...but knowing he called big pre-flop, he had to have had a PP and we can obviously tell he tripped...so yeah...

I wish I was there!
DAMN GETTING UP EARLY!
 
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Just wanted to point out that I made a brilliant laydown as well. UTG I had 72 SUITED (diamond)!!! But my brilliant PF read allowed me to deduce that calling, even though I had a monster suited hand, would be a bad idea, so I made the tough tough but brilliant laydown.
 
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Just wanted to point out that I made a brilliant laydown as well. UTG I had 72 SUITED (diamond)!!! But my brilliant PF read allowed me to deduce that calling, even though I had a monster suited hand, would be a bad idea, so I made the tough tough but brilliant laydown.

Dude if you raise 72s UTG there, I guarantee the rest of us fold. (Respect EP raiser ldo)
 
bubbasbestbabe

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Ha! no one respects my raises anymore.
 
Emperor IX

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Wait a minute. gd I think I imscalculated, forgot it was the turn :( lol

I made so many mistakes yesterday. lol
 
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no, it was on the flop, not the turn emp. but i'm sure you overestimated your equity anyway, because of course you didn't know for sure that i had a set
 
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