Tourney HH analysis?

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Anyone interested in analyzing a run I had in one of those $3+R tourneys?

Chris? Maybe a vid? :smile:
 
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Since you have done a couple of these for me, I would be glad to look at it. I know I am probably not up to your level of play but I would be happy to look it over if u want me to.
 
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Skold PM'ed me too; I'm just going to post it as a download for anyone who wants to take a peek, any input or criticism is very welcome.

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A few things to note: one is that I'm an absolute maniac in the rebuy period in this one. I'd even say don't analyze the first hour (up to 100/200 I believe?) because it's just me going nuts trying to build a stack, but if you want to that's fine. Other than that, I want you guys to let her rip. There are plenty of questionable hands later on and I want full criticism :)

Thanks in advance guys.
 
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I think you need to call this river in this situation 100% of the time (rebuy period):

*********** # 29 **************
pokerstars Game #12326519881: Tournament #61825979, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/09/28 - 20:30:22 (ET)
Table '61825979 80' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Gruffo (7850 in chips)
Seat 2: libere (1935 in chips)
Seat 3: allgra1 (11985 in chips)
Seat 5: BrookMPN (2730 in chips)
Seat 6: olegmaliy (2505 in chips)
Seat 7: ChuckTs (3000 in chips)
Seat 8: sleepyted (8875 in chips)
Seat 9: mark98 (1500 in chips)
BrookMPN: posts small blind 25
olegmaliy: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [8d 7c]
ChuckTs: calls 50
sleepyted: calls 50
mark98: folds
Gruffo: folds
libere: calls 50
allgra1: folds
BrookMPN: folds
olegmaliy: checks
*** FLOP *** [4s Qc Th]
olegmaliy: checks
ChuckTs: checks
sleepyted: checks
libere: checks
*** TURN *** [4s Qc Th] [8h]
olegmaliy: checks
ChuckTs: checks
atitko is connected
sleepyted: checks
libere: checks
*** RIVER *** [4s Qc Th 8h] [Qd]
olegmaliy: checks
ChuckTs: checks
sleepyted: checks
libere: bets 100
olegmaliy: calls 100
ChuckTs: folds
sleepyted: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
libere: shows [2h 2c] (two pair, Queens and Deuces)
olegmaliy: shows [4h Ks] (two pair, Queens and Fours)
olegmaliy collected 425 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 425 | Rake 0
Board [4s Qc Th 8h Qd]
Seat 1: Gruffo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: libere showed [2h 2c] and lost with two pair, Queens and Deuces
Seat 3: allgra1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: BrookMPN (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: olegmaliy (big blind) showed [4h Ks] and won (425) with two pair, Queens and Fours
Seat 7: ChuckTs folded on the River
Seat 8: sleepyted folded on the River
Seat 9: mark98 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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Nice one... this guy was nuts to call here:

PokerStars Game #12327519103: Tournament #61825979, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/09/28 - 21:27:01 (ET)
Table '61825979 80' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Gruffo (10800 in chips)
Seat 2: libere (6025 in chips)
Seat 3: allgra1 (17955 in chips)
Seat 4: mustalammas (12325 in chips)
Seat 5: BrookMPN (8035 in chips)
Seat 6: olegmaliy (10075 in chips)
Seat 7: ChuckTs (9725 in chips)
Seat 8: sleepyted (4850 in chips)
Seat 9: chad_mcfly (15260 in chips) is sitting out
allgra1: posts small blind 100
mustalammas: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [7h 9h]
BrookMPN: folds
olegmaliy: calls 200
ChuckTs: calls 200
sleepyted: folds
chad_mcfly: folds
Gruffo: folds
libere: calls 200
allgra1: calls 100
mustalammas: checks
*** FLOP *** [7s Jh 7d]
allgra1: bets 2200
mustalammas: folds
olegmaliy: folds
ChuckTs: calls 2200
libere: folds
*** TURN *** [7s Jh 7d] [Qs]
allgra1: bets 800
ChuckTs: raises 1800 to 2600
allgra1: calls 1800
*** RIVER *** [7s Jh 7d Qs] [Td]
allgra1: checks
ChuckTs: bets 4725 and is all-in
allgra1: calls 4725
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ChuckTs: shows [7h 9h] (three of a kind, Sevens)
allgra1: shows [As Jc] (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
ChuckTs collected 20050 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 20050 | Rake 0
Board [7s Jh 7d Qs Td]
Seat 1: Gruffo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: libere (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: allgra1 (small blind) showed [As Jc] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Seat 4: mustalammas (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: BrookMPN folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: olegmaliy folded on the Flop
Seat 7: ChuckTs showed [7h 9h] and won (20050) with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 8: sleepyted folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: chad_mcfly folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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Pot odds be damned, OOP I don't like calling here:

*********** # 120 **************
PokerStars Game #12328386091: Tournament #61825979, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/09/28 - 22:17:53 (ET)
Table '61825979 206' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: sleepyted (14720 in chips)
Seat 2: Compex (26915 in chips)
Seat 3: AAcesUp (15060 in chips)
Seat 4: ChuckTs (35075 in chips)
Seat 6: marfom (12815 in chips)
Seat 7: well hung 12 (35476 in chips)
Seat 8: geno8727 (33864 in chips)
Seat 9: Stochastic (13320 in chips)
sleepyted: posts the ante 50
Compex: posts the ante 50
AAcesUp: posts the ante 50
ChuckTs: posts the ante 50
marfom: posts the ante 50
well hung 12: posts the ante 50
geno8727: posts the ante 50
Stochastic: posts the ante 50
AAcesUp: posts small blind 300
ChuckTs: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [7s Qd]
mvegas50 is connected
marfom: folds
well hung 12: folds
geno8727: folds
Stochastic: folds
sleepyted: raises 600 to 1200
Compex: folds
AAcesUp: folds
ChuckTs: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [Jd 8c 8d]
ChuckTs: checks
sleepyted: bets 1800
ChuckTs: folds
sleepyted collected 3100 from pot
sleepyted: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3100 | Rake 0
Board [Jd 8c 8d]
Seat 1: sleepyted collected (3100)
Seat 2: Compex (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: AAcesUp (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: ChuckTs (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: marfom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: well hung 12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: geno8727 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Stochastic folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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I don't like giving the free card on the flop

PokerStars Game #12328448457: Tournament #61825979, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/09/28 - 22:21:37 (ET)
Table '61825979 206' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: sleepyted (16420 in chips)
Seat 2: Compex (28065 in chips)
Seat 3: AAcesUp (10460 in chips)
Seat 4: ChuckTs (33375 in chips)
Seat 5: mvegas50 (9445 in chips)
Seat 6: marfom (11715 in chips)
Seat 7: well hung 12 (34676 in chips)
Seat 8: geno8727 (40464 in chips)
Seat 9: Stochastic (13120 in chips)
sleepyted: posts the ante 50
Compex: posts the ante 50
AAcesUp: posts the ante 50
ChuckTs: posts the ante 50
mvegas50: posts the ante 50
marfom: posts the ante 50
well hung 12: posts the ante 50
geno8727: posts the ante 50
Stochastic: posts the ante 50
well hung 12: posts small blind 300
geno8727: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [As Qd]
Stochastic: folds
sleepyted: raises 600 to 1200
Compex: folds
AAcesUp: folds
ChuckTs: raises 2100 to 3300
mvegas50: folds
marfom: folds
well hung 12: folds
geno8727: folds
sleepyted: calls 2100
*** FLOP *** [Qc 9s 2c]
sleepyted: checks
ChuckTs: checks
*** TURN *** [Qc 9s 2c] [Th]
sleepyted: checks
ChuckTs: bets 4004
sleepyted: folds
ChuckTs collected 7950 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7950 | Rake 0
Board [Qc 9s 2c Th]
Seat 1: sleepyted folded on the Turn
Seat 2: Compex folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: AAcesUp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ChuckTs collected (7950)
Seat 5: mvegas50 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: marfom (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: well hung 12 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: geno8727 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Stochastic folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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Maybe smaller bet here to induce a CR?
Probably best as played, but a consideration.

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PokerStars Game #12328514746: Tournament #61825979, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/09/28 - 22:25:37 (ET)
Table '61825979 206' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: sleepyted (12020 in chips)
Seat 2: Compex (28615 in chips)
Seat 3: AAcesUp (10260 in chips)
Seat 4: ChuckTs (37825 in chips)
Seat 5: mvegas50 (9245 in chips)
Seat 6: marfom (10915 in chips)
Seat 7: well hung 12 (34176 in chips)
Seat 8: geno8727 (41314 in chips)
Seat 9: Stochastic (13370 in chips)
sleepyted: posts the ante 50
Compex: posts the ante 50
AAcesUp: posts the ante 50
ChuckTs: posts the ante 50
mvegas50: posts the ante 50
marfom: posts the ante 50
well hung 12: posts the ante 50
geno8727: posts the ante 50
Stochastic: posts the ante 50
Compex: posts small blind 300
AAcesUp: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Js As]
ChuckTs: raises 1200 to 1800
mvegas50: folds
marfom: folds
well hung 12: folds
geno8727: folds
Stochastic: folds
sleepyted: folds
Compex: calls 1500
AAcesUp: calls 1200
*** FLOP *** [Ad Jc 2h]
Compex: checks
AAcesUp: checks
ChuckTs: bets 3000
Compex: folds
AAcesUp: folds
ChuckTs collected 5850 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5850 | Rake 0
Board [Ad Jc 2h]
Seat 1: sleepyted (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Compex (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: AAcesUp (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: ChuckTs collected (5850)
Seat 5: mvegas50 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: marfom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: well hung 12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: geno8727 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Stochastic folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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What's your thinking here? Fairly big stack and he's donked around (with 67s) before. Just taking advantage of position and stack size for blind steal obv. But wanted to know if other thoughts behind it.

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PokerStars Game #12328597669: Tournament #61825979, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2007/09/28 - 22:30:42 (ET)
Table '61825979 206' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: sleepyted (10620 in chips)
Seat 2: Compex (30515 in chips)
Seat 3: AAcesUp (7960 in chips)
Seat 4: ChuckTs (40775 in chips)
Seat 5: mvegas50 (8145 in chips)
Seat 6: trostunaccio (36670 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: well hung 12 (33976 in chips)
Seat 8: geno8727 (41114 in chips)
Seat 9: Stochastic (14520 in chips)
sleepyted: posts the ante 75
Compex: posts the ante 75
AAcesUp: posts the ante 75
ChuckTs: posts the ante 75
mvegas50: posts the ante 75
trostunaccio: posts the ante 75
well hung 12: posts the ante 75
geno8727: posts the ante 75
Stochastic: posts the ante 75
trostunaccio: posts small blind 400
well hung 12: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [8c Qc]
geno8727: folds
Stochastic: folds
sleepyted: folds
Compex: folds
AAcesUp: folds
trostunaccio has returned
ChuckTs: raises 1600 to 2400
mvegas50: folds
trostunaccio: folds
well hung 12: folds
ChuckTs collected 2675 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2675 | Rake 0
Seat 1: sleepyted folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Compex folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: AAcesUp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ChuckTs collected (2675)
Seat 5: mvegas50 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: trostunaccio (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: well hung 12 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: geno8727 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Stochastic folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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I think you clearly missed a value bet on the river here. What range do you put him on? Taking into account his call of your raise on flop. I think he most likely has AQ or AJ in this situation. KQ is laughable.

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PokerStars Game #12328752106: Tournament #61825979, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2007/09/28 - 22:39:50 (ET)
Table '61825979 206' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: sleepyted (19995 in chips)
Seat 2: Compex (29165 in chips)
Seat 4: ChuckTs (50450 in chips)
Seat 5: mvegas50 (6270 in chips)
Seat 6: trostunaccio (31395 in chips)
Seat 7: well hung 12 (36786 in chips)
Seat 8: geno8727 (50609 in chips)
Seat 9: crazzychet1 (24565 in chips)
sleepyted: posts the ante 75
Compex: posts the ante 75
ChuckTs: posts the ante 75
mvegas50: posts the ante 75
trostunaccio: posts the ante 75
well hung 12: posts the ante 75
geno8727: posts the ante 75
crazzychet1: posts the ante 75
well hung 12: posts small blind 400
geno8727: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ks As]
crazzychet1: folds
sleepyted: folds
Compex: folds
ChuckTs: raises 1600 to 2400
mvegas50: folds
mealsonmasi is connected
trostunaccio: folds
well hung 12: folds
geno8727: calls 1600
*** FLOP *** [Kh 5c Ac]
geno8727: bets 1600
ChuckTs: raises 3200 to 4800
geno8727: calls 3200
*** TURN *** [Kh 5c Ac] [Th]
geno8727: checks
ChuckTs: bets 11000
geno8727: calls 11000
*** RIVER *** [Kh 5c Ac Th] [Tc]
geno8727: checks
ChuckTs: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
geno8727: shows [Kd Qd] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
ChuckTs: shows [Ks As] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
ChuckTs collected 37400 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 37400 | Rake 0
Board [Kh 5c Ac Th Tc]
Seat 1: sleepyted folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Compex folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ChuckTs showed [Ks As] and won (37400) with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 5: mvegas50 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: trostunaccio (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: well hung 12 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: geno8727 (big blind) showed [Kd Qd] and lost with two pair, Kings and Tens
Seat 9: crazzychet1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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I actually like this since he has a big stack and you might trap (CR flop), but I think re-raising PF as well is definitely a reasonable alternative. If you knew his image, CR this flop is reasonable too, but since this is one of your first hands at this table, I like the way you played it.

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PokerStars Game #12328917551: Tournament #61825979, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (500/1000) - 2007/09/28 - 22:49:30 (ET)
Table '61825979 224' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: ChuckTs (70125 in chips)
Seat 2: O.G.BigPost (75689 in chips)
Seat 3: beginnerluck (15345 in chips)
Seat 4: SavicMaster (7955 in chips)
Seat 5: Xcaliber2000 (39595 in chips)
Seat 6: Lacedudrame (18724 in chips)
Seat 7: zapprozdower (11365 in chips)
Seat 8: snooks005 (6015 in chips)
Seat 9: ATCL (68640 in chips)
ChuckTs: posts the ante 100
O.G.BigPost: posts the ante 100
beginnerluck: posts the ante 100
SavicMaster: posts the ante 100
Xcaliber2000: posts the ante 100
Lacedudrame: posts the ante 100
zapprozdower: posts the ante 100
snooks005: posts the ante 100
ATCL: posts the ante 100
ChuckTs: posts small blind 500
O.G.BigPost: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ad Qh]
beginnerluck: folds
SavicMaster: folds
Xcaliber2000: folds
Lacedudrame: folds
zapprozdower: folds
snooks005: folds
ATCL: raises 2000 to 3000
ChuckTs: calls 2500
O.G.BigPost: folds
*** FLOP *** [3s Js Jd]
ChuckTs: checks
ATCL: bets 4000
ChuckTs: folds
ATCL collected 7900 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7900 | Rake 0
Board [3s Js Jd]
Seat 1: ChuckTs (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: O.G.BigPost (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: beginnerluck folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SavicMaster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Xcaliber2000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Lacedudrame folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: zapprozdower folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: snooks005 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ATCL (button) collected (7900)
 
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i'm doing a vid of bw's tourney at the mo, will probably take a week or so - if you're still interested hit me afterwards and i'll see what i can do. :)
 
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Probably didn't matter because of his draw and stack size, but this is why I hate giving that free card (similar to hand above). The pot is big; take it down!

PokerStars Game #12329070368: Tournament #61825979, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (500/1000) - 2007/09/28 - 22:58:43 (ET)
Table '61825979 174' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: aljaru (73250 in chips)
Seat 2: brasil1606 (57268 in chips)
Seat 3: bigtoe821 (18900 in chips)
Seat 4: RandomMan34 (30943 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (69925 in chips)
Seat 6: jj1400 (7540 in chips)
Seat 7: P0kerfish999 (19566 in chips)
Seat 8: sandrino55 (21554 in chips)
Seat 9: LadyBami (51008 in chips)
aljaru: posts the ante 100
brasil1606: posts the ante 100
bigtoe821: posts the ante 100
RandomMan34: posts the ante 100
ChuckTs: posts the ante 100
jj1400: posts the ante 100
P0kerfish999: posts the ante 100
sandrino55: posts the ante 100
LadyBami: posts the ante 100
P0kerfish999: posts small blind 500
sandrino55: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ah Qs]
LadyBami: folds
aljaru: folds
brasil1606: raises 1000 to 2000
bigtoe821: folds
RandomMan34: calls 2000
ChuckTs: raises 7000 to 9000
jj1400: folds
P0kerfish999: folds
sandrino55: folds
brasil1606: calls 7000
RandomMan34: calls 7000
*** FLOP *** [5d Qc 4h]
brasil1606: checks
RandomMan34: checks
ChuckTs: checks
*** TURN *** [5d Qc 4h] [8c]
brasil1606: checks
RandomMan34: bets 10000
ChuckTs: calls 10000
brasil1606: folds
*** RIVER *** [5d Qc 4h 8c] [6d]
RandomMan34: bets 11843 and is all-in
ChuckTs: calls 11843
*** SHOW DOWN ***
RandomMan34: shows [7h 6h] (a straight, Four to Eight)
ChuckTs: shows [Ah Qs] (a pair of Queens)
RandomMan34 collected 73086 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 73086 | Rake 0
Board [5d Qc 4h 8c 6d]
Seat 1: aljaru folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: brasil1606 folded on the Turn
Seat 3: bigtoe821 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: RandomMan34 showed [7h 6h] and won (73086) with a straight, Four to Eight
Seat 5: ChuckTs showed [Ah Qs] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 6: jj1400 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: P0kerfish999 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: sandrino55 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: LadyBami folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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Perfecto.

PokerStars Game #12329275015: Tournament #61825979, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (600/1200) - 2007/09/28 - 23:11:21 (ET)
Table '61825979 174' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: aljaru (78375 in chips)
Seat 2: brasil1606 (86743 in chips)
Seat 3: yodanoo (77014 in chips)
Seat 4: RandomMan34 (65370 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (35557 in chips)
Seat 6: jj1400 (8140 in chips)
Seat 7: P0kerfish999 (18407 in chips)
Seat 8: sandrino55 (19354 in chips)
Seat 9: LadyBami (43208 in chips)
aljaru: posts the ante 125
brasil1606: posts the ante 125
yodanoo: posts the ante 125
RandomMan34: posts the ante 125
ChuckTs: posts the ante 125
jj1400: posts the ante 125
P0kerfish999: posts the ante 125
sandrino55: posts the ante 125
LadyBami: posts the ante 125
RandomMan34: posts small blind 600
ChuckTs: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ts Qs]
jj1400: folds
P0kerfish999: folds
sandrino55: folds
LadyBami: calls 1200
aljaru: folds
brasil1606: folds
yodanoo: folds
RandomMan34: calls 600
ChuckTs: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qc Td Ks]
RandomMan34: bets 1200
ChuckTs: raises 4800 to 6000
LadyBami: folds
RandomMan34: calls 4800
*** TURN *** [Qc Td Ks] [3c]
RandomMan34: checks
ChuckTs: bets 12000
RandomMan34: folds
ChuckTs collected 16725 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 16725 | Rake 0
Board [Qc Td Ks 3c]
Seat 1: aljaru folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: brasil1606 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: yodanoo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: RandomMan34 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: ChuckTs (big blind) collected (16725)
Seat 6: jj1400 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: P0kerfish999 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: sandrino55 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: LadyBami folded on the Flop
 
ChuckTs

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I don't like giving the free card on the flop

Well it's definitely risky, but I had him pretty much pinned on a smaller pair or something like AJ. I don't mind giving a free card to either because we can maybe convince them with a flop check that we're sitting on AK and that their pair is good or that they can bluff me out on the turn. I'm basically sacrificing more risk for a little more value.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with betting the flop, I think it's just a more conservative approach.

Then again you'll run into another AQ hand later on where I screw myself over doing the same thing so you could be right about giving a free card :)

Maybe smaller bet here to induce a CR?
Probably best as played, but a consideration.

Good idea, but I think in general a hand that's ch-r worthy will be doing so regardless of the size, no? Actually we could induce some ch-r bluffs too I guess, or maybe from Jx. I think I was just trying to stay in line with what I'd done before and just hoped a naked ace would tag along thinking I was just making a c-bet.

What's your thinking here? Fairly big stack and he's donked around (with 67s) before. Just taking advantage of position and stack size for blind steal obv. But wanted to know if other thoughts behind it.

No real deep thought put into this one...I actually hadn't noticed this was the same 67 monkey. Good eye; I think I was just keeping up my blind-stealing quota :p
 
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I think you clearly missed a value bet on the river here. What range do you put him on? Taking into account his call of your raise on flop. I think he most likely has AQ or AJ in this situation. KQ is laughable.

Ya this was one I had to put up in HA (https://www.cardschat.com/forum/tournament-hand-analysis-51/aks-vs-lag-3-r-mtt-94640/) because I really wasn't sure he had me beat or not. Or at least I wasn't sure I was ahead of his range.

Anyways I actually think AQ/AJ are much too strong for his play here. You don't see his PT stats but he was fairly aggressive and I think by his flop block-bet that he's either on QJ, FD or a weak king. If he had TP, he would have check-raised me or 4-bet after his weak flop lead.

But ya, I'm still pretty sure I missed a value bet on that river. I just chickened out :eek:.
 
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Hope you don't mind questions as well as comments. :)

I don't know what this guy's numbers were, but did you read this for a steal attempt, and decide AT is too easily dominated to stand up with?


POKERSTARS GAME #12328538256: TOURNAMENT #61825979, $3.00+$0.30 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL IX (300/600) - 2007/09/28 - 22:27:02 (ET)
Table '61825979 206' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: sleepyted (11970 in chips)
Seat 2: Compex (26765 in chips)
Seat 3: AAcesUp (8410 in chips)
Seat 4: ChuckTs (41825 in chips)
Seat 5: mvegas50 (9195 in chips)
Seat 6: marfom (10865 in chips)
Seat 7: well hung 12 (34126 in chips)
Seat 8: geno8727 (41264 in chips)
Seat 9: Stochastic (13320 in chips)
sleepyted: posts the ante 50
Compex: posts the ante 50
AAcesUp: posts the ante 50
ChuckTs: posts the ante 50
mvegas50: posts the ante 50
marfom: posts the ante 50
well hung 12: posts the ante 50
geno8727: posts the ante 50
Stochastic: posts the ante 50
AAcesUp: posts small blind 300
ChuckTs: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [As Th]
mvegas50: folds
marfom: folds
well hung 12: folds
geno8727: folds
Stochastic: raises 1100 to 1700
sleepyted: folds
Compex: folds
AAcesUp: folds
ChuckTs: folds
Stochastic collected 1950 from pot
Stochastic: doesn't show hand
trostunaccio is connected
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1950 | Rake 0
Seat 1: sleepyted folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Compex (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: AAcesUp (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: ChuckTs (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: mvegas50 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: marfom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: well hung 12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: geno8727 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Stochastic collected (1950)
 
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^^^that's another good one NL.

tbh, I think I just felt I was in too many hands recently and didn't want to go nuts. Again, being OOP with a hand that marginal doesn't appeal to me either, but it's most probably proper to call there.
 
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Pot odds be damned, OOP I don't like calling here:

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PokerStars Game #12328386091: Tournament #61825979, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/09/28 - 22:17:53 (ET)
Table '61825979 206' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: sleepyted (14720 in chips)
Seat 2: Compex (26915 in chips)
Seat 3: AAcesUp (15060 in chips)
Seat 4: ChuckTs (35075 in chips)
Seat 6: marfom (12815 in chips)
Seat 7: well hung 12 (35476 in chips)
Seat 8: geno8727 (33864 in chips)
Seat 9: Stochastic (13320 in chips)
sleepyted: posts the ante 50
Compex: posts the ante 50
AAcesUp: posts the ante 50
ChuckTs: posts the ante 50
marfom: posts the ante 50
well hung 12: posts the ante 50
geno8727: posts the ante 50
Stochastic: posts the ante 50
AAcesUp: posts small blind 300
ChuckTs: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [7s Qd]
mvegas50 is connected
marfom: folds
well hung 12: folds
geno8727: folds
Stochastic: folds
sleepyted: raises 600 to 1200
Compex: folds
AAcesUp: folds
ChuckTs: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [Jd 8c 8d]
ChuckTs: checks
sleepyted: bets 1800
ChuckTs: folds
sleepyted collected 3100 from pot
sleepyted: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3100 | Rake 0
Board [Jd 8c 8d]
Seat 1: sleepyted collected (3100)
Seat 2: Compex (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: AAcesUp (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: ChuckTs (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: marfom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: well hung 12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: geno8727 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Stochastic folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Yeah, that's an ugly one. It does have some reasoning though - if people get the idea that they can minraise my blinds with a good chance of success, then they'll keep doing it. At least this way they know they have to deal with at least seeing a flop and facing some resistance.

I completely agree with you though, nothing wrong with folding.

i'm doing a vid of bw's tourney at the mo, will probably take a week or so - if you're still interested hit me afterwards and i'll see what i can do. :)

ty sir :)

We'll probably be through with this one sooner than that, so maybe I'll reach you with another tourney I'll have played this coming week.
 
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I just got to this one and was thinking the same thing because 1) he could be stealing, but also 2) this always makes me remember something from Phil Gordon about how he hates playing from the blinds so he would rather take a shot at taking it down preflop.


I actually like this since he has a big stack and you might trap (CR flop), but I think re-raising PF as well is definitely a reasonable alternative. If you knew his image, CR this flop is reasonable too, but since this is one of your first hands at this table, I like the way you played it.

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PokerStars Game #12328917551: Tournament #61825979, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (500/1000) - 2007/09/28 - 22:49:30 (ET)
Table '61825979 224' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: ChuckTs (70125 in chips)
Seat 2: O.G.BigPost (75689 in chips)
Seat 3: beginnerluck (15345 in chips)
Seat 4: SavicMaster (7955 in chips)
Seat 5: Xcaliber2000 (39595 in chips)
Seat 6: Lacedudrame (18724 in chips)
Seat 7: zapprozdower (11365 in chips)
Seat 8: snooks005 (6015 in chips)
Seat 9: ATCL (68640 in chips)
ChuckTs: posts the ante 100
O.G.BigPost: posts the ante 100
beginnerluck: posts the ante 100
SavicMaster: posts the ante 100
Xcaliber2000: posts the ante 100
Lacedudrame: posts the ante 100
zapprozdower: posts the ante 100
snooks005: posts the ante 100
ATCL: posts the ante 100
ChuckTs: posts small blind 500
O.G.BigPost: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ad Qh]
beginnerluck: folds
SavicMaster: folds
Xcaliber2000: folds
Lacedudrame: folds
zapprozdower: folds
snooks005: folds
ATCL: raises 2000 to 3000
ChuckTs: calls 2500
O.G.BigPost: folds
*** FLOP *** [3s Js Jd]
ChuckTs: checks
ATCL: bets 4000
ChuckTs: folds
ATCL collected 7900 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7900 | Rake 0
Board [3s Js Jd]
Seat 1: ChuckTs (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: O.G.BigPost (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: beginnerluck folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SavicMaster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Xcaliber2000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Lacedudrame folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: zapprozdower folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: snooks005 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ATCL (button) collected (7900)
 
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Ditto. (Obviously I'm behind skoldpadda in the reviewing; I'll try to look for original comments :))


Probably didn't matter because of his draw and stack size, but this is why I hate giving that free card (similar to hand above). The pot is big; take it down!

PokerStars Game #12329070368: Tournament #61825979, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (500/1000) - 2007/09/28 - 22:58:43 (ET)
Table '61825979 174' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: aljaru (73250 in chips)
Seat 2: brasil1606 (57268 in chips)
Seat 3: bigtoe821 (18900 in chips)
Seat 4: RandomMan34 (30943 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (69925 in chips)
Seat 6: jj1400 (7540 in chips)
Seat 7: P0kerfish999 (19566 in chips)
Seat 8: sandrino55 (21554 in chips)
Seat 9: LadyBami (51008 in chips)
aljaru: posts the ante 100
brasil1606: posts the ante 100
bigtoe821: posts the ante 100
RandomMan34: posts the ante 100
ChuckTs: posts the ante 100
jj1400: posts the ante 100
P0kerfish999: posts the ante 100
sandrino55: posts the ante 100
LadyBami: posts the ante 100
P0kerfish999: posts small blind 500
sandrino55: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ah Qs]
LadyBami: folds
aljaru: folds
brasil1606: raises 1000 to 2000
bigtoe821: folds
RandomMan34: calls 2000
ChuckTs: raises 7000 to 9000
jj1400: folds
P0kerfish999: folds
sandrino55: folds
brasil1606: calls 7000
RandomMan34: calls 7000
*** FLOP *** [5d Qc 4h]
brasil1606: checks
RandomMan34: checks
ChuckTs: checks
*** TURN *** [5d Qc 4h] 8♣
brasil1606: checks
RandomMan34: bets 10000
ChuckTs: calls 10000
brasil1606: folds
*** RIVER *** [5d Qc 4h 8c] 6♦
RandomMan34: bets 11843 and is all-in
ChuckTs: calls 11843
*** SHOW DOWN ***
RandomMan34: shows [7h 6h] (a straight, Four to Eight)
ChuckTs: shows [Ah Qs] (a pair of Queens)
RandomMan34 collected 73086 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 73086 | Rake 0
Board [5d Qc 4h 8c 6d]
Seat 1: aljaru folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: brasil1606 folded on the Turn
Seat 3: bigtoe821 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: RandomMan34 showed [7h 6h] and won (73086) with a straight, Four to Eight
Seat 5: ChuckTs showed [Ah Qs] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 6: jj1400 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: P0kerfish999 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: sandrino55 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: LadyBami folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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I probably call and see a flop here since you close the action.

PokerStars Game #12330465491: Tournament #61825979, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (2500/5000) - 2007/09/29 - 00:31:28 (ET)
Table '61825979 174' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: aljaru (40000 in chips)
Seat 2: brasil1606 (306518 in chips)
Seat 3: hansid90 (66941 in chips)
Seat 4: ATG323BC (181768 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (74044 in chips)
Seat 6: Aurora0604 (67172 in chips)
Seat 7: Thinktwowin (34400 in chips)
Seat 8: smithientist (83782 in chips)
Seat 9: LadyBami (18638 in chips)
aljaru: posts the ante 500
brasil1606: posts the ante 500
hansid90: posts the ante 500
ATG323BC: posts the ante 500
ChuckTs: posts the ante 500
Aurora0604: posts the ante 500
Thinktwowin: posts the ante 500
smithientist: posts the ante 500
LadyBami: posts the ante 500
ATG323BC: posts small blind 2500
ChuckTs: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [2h 2s]
Aurora0604: raises 5000 to 10000
Thinktwowin: folds
smithientist: folds
LadyBami: folds
aljaru: folds
brasil1606: folds
hansid90: folds
ATG323BC: folds
ChuckTs: folds
Aurora0604 collected 17000 from pot
Aurora0604: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 17000 | Rake 0
Seat 1: aljaru folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: brasil1606 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: hansid90 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ATG323BC (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: ChuckTs (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Aurora0604 collected (17000)
Seat 7: Thinktwowin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: smithientist folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: LadyBami folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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Pretty tight. I think in position, you can call and see a flop. Of course, you can get squeezed out of the hand too.

Contrast to a hand a few hands later with KQo UTG, which is a clear fold.

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PokerStars Game #12330610774: Tournament #61825979, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (2500/5000) - 2007/09/29 - 00:41:51 (ET)
Table '61825979 271' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: ChuckTs (171322 in chips)
Seat 3: Tito55 (58775 in chips)
Seat 4: ATCL (120240 in chips)
Seat 5: Bent0n (84550 in chips)
Seat 6: Suteki-1 (36172 in chips)
Seat 7: krownroyal26 (506472 in chips)
Seat 8: stiesnking (63021 in chips)
Seat 9: SARASANI NL (100903 in chips)
ChuckTs: posts the ante 500
Tito55: posts the ante 500
ATCL: posts the ante 500
Bent0n: posts the ante 500
Suteki-1: posts the ante 500
krownroyal26: posts the ante 500
stiesnking: posts the ante 500
SARASANI NL: posts the ante 500
ATCL: posts small blind 2500
Bent0n: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Qd Kd]
Suteki-1: folds
krownroyal26: folds
bw07507 [observer] said, "chuck im gonna get going"
bw07507 [observer] said, "good luck"
stiesnking: raises 7521 to 12521
SARASANI NL: folds
ChuckTs said, "thx for the rail bw"
ChuckTs said, "tc"
ChuckTs: folds
Tito55: folds
ATCL: folds
bw07507 [observer] said, "peace"
Bent0n: folds
ChuckTs said, "easy"
stiesnking collected 16500 from pot
stiesnking: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 16500 | Rake 0
Seat 2: ChuckTs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Tito55 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ATCL (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Bent0n (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Suteki-1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: krownroyal26 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: stiesnking collected (16500)
Seat 9: SARASANI NL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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Or c-bet flop would be my preference.

PokerStars Game #12330935833: Tournament #61825979, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIX (4000/8000) - 2007/09/29 - 01:06:29 (ET)
Table '61825979 271' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Grizzly2727 (398571 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (485737 in chips)
Seat 3: dkeeton (254398 in chips)
Seat 4: bradonlywins (335335 in chips)
Seat 5: Bent0n (83850 in chips)
Seat 6: Biffle16 (188510 in chips)
Seat 7: krownroyal26 (491772 in chips)
Seat 8: stiesnking (137242 in chips)
Grizzly2727: posts the ante 800
ChuckTs: posts the ante 800
dkeeton: posts the ante 800
bradonlywins: posts the ante 800
Bent0n: posts the ante 800
Biffle16: posts the ante 800
krownroyal26: posts the ante 800
stiesnking: posts the ante 800
Bent0n: posts small blind 4000
Biffle16: posts big blind 8000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ad Ts]
krownroyal26: folds
stiesnking: folds
Grizzly2727: folds
ChuckTs: raises 14224 to 22224
dkeeton: folds
bradonlywins: folds
Bent0n: folds
Biffle16: calls 14224
*** FLOP *** [Jh 2h 9s]
Biffle16: checks
ChuckTs: checks
*** TURN *** [Jh 2h 9s] [4h]
Biffle16: checks
ChuckTs: bets 25836
Biffle16: folds
ChuckTs collected 54848 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 54848 | Rake 0
Board [Jh 2h 9s 4h]
Seat 1: Grizzly2727 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ChuckTs collected (54848)
Seat 3: dkeeton folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: bradonlywins (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Bent0n (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Biffle16 (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 7: krownroyal26 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: stiesnking folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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