Tosborn's analysis of ChuckTs' $4/180

ChuckTs

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Tos did a HH audit for me (ty sir :)). Just thought I'd post the relevant hands here for anyone who's interested. I'll also add my comments just to explain my p.o.v.

Tosbourn's notes are in italics, mine in bold.

crazfn: posts small blind 10
One Eye Ray: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ts Ac]
Meatloaf'46: folds
SonofCount: folds
Quentin85 is connected
ChuckTs: raises 40 to 60
Tonane: folds
PrincessJAB: calls 60
mars1967: folds
crazfn: folds
One Eye Ray: folds
*** FLOP *** [3d 6d Jh]
ChuckTs: bets 90
PrincessJAB: folds
ChuckTs collected 150 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand I usually don't play AT this early, but took a shot at a small steal.

Quentin85: posts small blind 10
Meatloaf'46: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Jd Ac]
SonofCount: folds
ChuckTs: raises 40 to 60
Tonane: calls 60
PrincessJAB: folds
crazfn: folds
One Eye Ray: folds
Quentin85: folds
Meatloaf'46: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [Ah 2c Qd]
Meatloaf'46: checks
ChuckTs: bets 115
Tonane: calls 115
Meatloaf'46: folds
*** TURN *** [Ah 2c Qd] K♣
ChuckTs: checks
Tonane: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ah 2c Qd Kc] [Th]
ChuckTs: bets 205
Tonane: raises 2220 to 2425 and is all-in
ChuckTs: calls 1180 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Tonane: shows [Kh Jh] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
ChuckTs: shows [Jd Ac] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
ChuckTs collected 1595 from pot
Tonane collected 1595 from pot

-----I like the turn check. Too many hands in his range have us beat.

Easiest flop call ever. Shitty result.-----think you mean river?

Anyways, turn check was not only because we may be beat, but because we want to induce a bluff from a queen/busted draw as well as keep the pot small. Marginal TP isn't something I go nuts with unless I've got a good read.

ChuckTs: posts small blind 10
Tonane: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [3d 3h]
PrincessJAB: calls 20
ringosnuff: folds
crazfn: folds
One Eye Ray: folds
Quentin85: calls 20
Meatloaf'46: folds
SonofCount: calls 20
ChuckTs: calls 10
Tonane: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qs 8c Qh]
ChuckTs: checks
Tonane: checks
PrincessJAB: checks
Quentin85: checks
SonofCount: checks
*** TURN *** [Qs 8c Qh] 4♦
ChuckTs: checks
Tonane: checks
PrincessJAB: checks
Quentin85: checks
SonofCount: checks
*** RIVER *** [Qs 8c Qh 4d] 6♦
ChuckTs: checks
Tonane: checks
PrincessJAB: checks
Quentin85: checks
SonofCount: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ChuckTs: shows [3d 3h] (two pair, Queens and Threes)
Tonane: mucks hand
PrincessJAB: mucks hand
Quentin85: mucks hand
SonofCount: mucks hand
ChuckTs collected 100 from pot


-----I bet this turn for 60. Any Q would have bet that flop five handed.
I realize that we are not very strong here, but, there is a ton of dead money
and everyone is afraid of the Queen.

I definately don't disagree with checking it down, I'm just not crazy about
giving up on the hand in this spot. We've only shown down TAG hands thus
far and haven't stepped out of line betting.

If I am villain without the Queen I muck even two pair five handed.

Also if we bet and get called. It might be possible to use this
for some metagame play if we can get to showdown without any more
betting. Metagame pays off even in SNG's, although we rarely get the oppurtunity
to get to showdown.-----


Good points tos. I was just happy with checking it down since most pots had been bet so far, and I suspected that I was either up against a slowplay, or absolutely nothing (in which case there's no point in betting). Our hand is very vulnerable though, and I don't fault a bet at all.

Meatloaf'46: posts small blind 15
SonofCount: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ac Ah]
ChuckTs: raises 90 to 120
PrincessJAB: folds
ringosnuff: folds
crazfn: folds
One Eye Ray: folds
Quentin85: calls 120
Meatloaf'46: folds
SonofCount: folds
*** FLOP *** [2d 4h 2h]
ChuckTs: bets 150
Quentin85: calls 150
*** TURN *** [2d 4h 2h] Q♥
ChuckTs: checks
Quentin85: bets 1200 and is all-in
ChuckTs: calls 1200
*** RIVER *** [2d 4h 2h Qh] 6♣
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ChuckTs: shows [Ac Ah] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
Quentin85: shows [Jh As] (a pair of Deuces)
ChuckTs collected 2985 from pot

-----I like the turn check on the flush board to find out where are.
The overbet shove looks like a bluff. Fairly easy call with outs
to full house/nut flush.

Well played.-----

ty sir. The guy was hyper aggressive and I was nearly sure I was ahead. I'm more afraid if he checks behind on the turn, but as played, yeah it's a snapcall. I think this was more of a bluff-inducing check than anything though.

lol AJ :/


Seat 5: ChuckTs (3170 in chips)
Seat 6: maniwin (2305 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (2390 in chips)
Seat 8: Vogely (1945 in chips)
Seat 9: Xmachine888 (1350 in chips)
dukkie03: posts small blind 15
kuk1977: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ad Qh]
Capt Ryry: calls 30
ChuckTs: calls 30
maniwin: folds
lefevrec74: calls 30
Vogely: calls 30
Xmachine888: folds
yoni34: folds
dukkie03: folds
kuk1977: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jc Jd Qc]
kuk1977: checks
Capt Ryry: checks
ChuckTs: bets 95
lefevrec74: calls 95
Vogely: folds
kuk1977: folds
Capt Ryry: folds
*** TURN *** [Jc Jd Qc] K♥
ChuckTs: checks
lefevrec74: bets 150
ChuckTs: folds
lefevrec74 collected 355 from pot
lefevrec74: doesn't show hand

-----Raise preflop to 120, the limp induces a limpfest. As played
you got villains answer on the flop bet. We are behind. Agree fold.-----
These are hands I hate playing OOP. A raise pf is fine too, but with a looser table (the norm at the $4s), I limp because I don't want to bloat the pot. Postflop is a little weak, but vs a standard player there's not much we beat except a bluff. Jx, QK, AK, KcXc...maybe I'm giving him too much respect. Meh, not a monster hand and I don't think folding is terrible here.

Seat 5: ChuckTs (3045 in chips)
Seat 6: maniwin (2305 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (2620 in chips)
Seat 8: Vogely (1915 in chips)
Seat 9: Xmachine888 (1350 in chips)
kuk1977: posts small blind 15
Capt Ryry: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Jc Ac]
ChuckTs: calls 30
maniwin: calls 30
lefevrec74: folds
Vogely: folds
Xmachine888: folds
yoni34: folds
dukkie03: calls 30
kuk1977: calls 15
Capt Ryry: checks
*** FLOP *** [8c 5s 3s]
kuk1977: checks
Capt Ryry: checks
ChuckTs: checks
maniwin: bets 90
dukkie03: calls 90
kuk1977: raises 150 to 240
Capt Ryry: folds
ChuckTs: folds
maniwin: folds
dukkie03: folds
kuk1977 collected 420 from pot
kuk1977: doesn't show hand

-----Once again don't limp from early position. Bet 90. After that
the hand is really hard to play. I probably let it go also.-----

Even more marginal in earlier position. I don't like a raise here; a limp is pretty marginal too (folding is what I do most), but I've got a healthy stack and don't mind seeing some cheap flops. I don't want to be c-betting OOP against loose players with AJ. Flop is obviously a standard fold; I missed, someone else says they haven't, I'm out.

kuk1977: posts small blind 15
Capt Ryry: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [8c 8s]
ChuckTs: calls 30
maniwin: folds
lefevrec74: folds
Vogely: folds
Xmachine888: folds
yoni34: calls 30
dukkie03: folds
kuk1977: calls 15
Capt Ryry: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ac 5s 7c]
kuk1977: checks
Capt Ryry: checks
ChuckTs: checks
yoni34: checks
*** TURN *** [Ac 5s 7c] K♣
kuk1977: bets 30
Capt Ryry: folds
ChuckTs: folds
yoni34: folds
kuk1977 collected 120 from pot
kuk1977: doesn't show hand

-----I don't mind limp/calling with medium pocket pairs. As played pretty
standard fold on the turn.-----


Agreed on all counts :) 88 is borderline for me; I'm raising it occasionally, but decided to limp for whatever reason here.

also, what do you see the big difference is between limping big (but marginal) aces from EP and pairs?


Seat 3: kuk1977 (2395 in chips)
Seat 4: Capt Ryry (1405 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (2885 in chips)
Seat 6: maniwin (1305 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (2485 in chips)
Seat 8: Vogely (2220 in chips)
Seat 9: Xmachine888 (1720 in chips)
lefevrec74: posts small blind 25
Vogely: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [As Kd]
Xmachine888: folds
yoni34: folds
tx75248: folds
kuk1977: raises 100 to 150
Capt Ryry: folds
ChuckTs: raises 300 to 450
maniwin: folds
lefevrec74: folds
Vogely: calls 400
kuk1977: raises 1945 to 2395 and is all-in
ChuckTs: raises 490 to 2885 and is all-in
Vogely: folds
*** FLOP *** [9c Jh 3c]
*** TURN *** [9c Jh 3c] 2♠
*** RIVER *** [9c Jh 3c 2s] 8♥
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kuk1977: shows [Tc Ah] (high card Ace)
ChuckTs: shows [As Kd] (high card Ace - King kicker)
ChuckTs collected 5265 from pot

-----This is what I posted on CC about this hand.

"We have to get away from this. A cold caller after a raise and reraise
And then a four bet. Between the two I think we have to give one of them
credit for QQ+ don't we?

At best we are racing with overcards.

Let it go, but, make sure that you take note of this.
I would play back at "Four Bet Villain" pretty light in the near
future."

After reading through the tourney history up to this point I don't hate
the call. But, I probably still lay the hand down given the fact that we will
not be in such great shape if we lose.

Tough spot. Questionable call. Very good result.-----

I still don't love my call either. It's hard not to be results-oriented here, though. I agree though - marginal at best.

Also note that I knew that the reraiser had me beat - I was most probably racing, but I'm fine with that considering how much dead money there is in the middle and the little FE we have.

ChuckTs: posts small blind 50
maniwin: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Qh Kh]
lefevrec74: folds
Vogely: folds
Xmachine888: folds
yoni34: raises 385 to 485 and is all-in
tx75248: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
Capt Ryry: folds
ChuckTs: raises 415 to 900
maniwin: folds
*** FLOP *** [4c Jc Js]
*** TURN *** [4c Jc Js] 7♠
*** RIVER *** [4c Jc Js 7s] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ChuckTs: shows [Qh Kh] (a pair of Jacks)
yoni34: shows [8c 7c] (a flush, Jack high)
yoni34 collected 1070 from pot

-----Easy call given stacks-----


Agreed again. Big stack makes calls like this easy :)

pokerstars Game #12884357816: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL IV (50/100) - 2007/10/27 - 18:45:50 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: yoni34 (1070 in chips)
Seat 2: tx75248 (3145 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (4753 in chips)
Seat 4: Capt Ryry (705 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (5070 in chips)
Seat 6: maniwin (1880 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (1835 in chips)
Seat 8: Vogely (2770 in chips)
Seat 9: Xmachine888 (1595 in chips)
maniwin: posts small blind 50
lefevrec74: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [9h Jh]
Vogely: calls 100
Xmachine888: folds
yoni34: folds
tx75248: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
Capt Ryry: folds
ChuckTs: calls 100
maniwin: calls 50
lefevrec74: raises 400 to 500
Vogely: folds
ChuckTs: folds
maniwin: folds
lefevrec74 collected 400 from pot
lefevrec74: doesn't show hand

-----I don't mind the button limp as much. Easy fold.-----


Yeah, I start trying to abuse my position a little. Maybe raising PF is better...

PokerStars Game #12884384473: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL IV (50/100) - 2007/10/27 - 18:47:18 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: yoni34 (1070 in chips)
Seat 2: tx75248 (3145 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (4753 in chips)
Seat 4: Capt Ryry (1055 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (4970 in chips)
Seat 6: maniwin (1780 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (2085 in chips)
Seat 8: Vogely (2370 in chips)
Seat 9: Xmachine888 (1595 in chips)
Vogely: posts small blind 50
Xmachine888: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Js Jc]
yoni34: calls 100
tx75248: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
Capt Ryry: raises 300 to 400
ChuckTs: raises 700 to 1100
maniwin: folds
lefevrec74: folds
Vogely: folds
Xmachine888: folds
yoni34: folds
Capt Ryry: calls 655 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [9d 3d Qs]
*** TURN *** [9d 3d Qs] 5♥
*** RIVER *** [9d 3d Qs 5h] 8♣
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Capt Ryry: shows [7h 7s] (a pair of Sevens)
ChuckTs: shows [Js Jc] (a pair of Jacks)
ChuckTs collected 2360 from pot

-----Standard Play-----

Yip.

Seat 5: ChuckTs (6275 in chips)
Xmachine888: posts small blind 50
yoni34: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Kc Ts]
tx75248: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
ChuckTs: folds
maniwin: calls 100
lefevrec74: raises 300 to 400
Vogely: folds
Xmachine888: folds
yoni34: folds
maniwin: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [Ah Qc 8h]
maniwin: bets 1380 and is all-in
lefevrec74: calls 1380
*** TURN *** [Ah Qc 8h] 8♦
*** RIVER *** [Ah Qc 8h 8d] J♣
*** SHOW DOWN ***
maniwin: shows [Qs Th] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
lefevrec74: shows [7d As] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
lefevrec74 collected 3710 from pot

-----Given your chipstack I'm not sure I fold this everytime. But you have
been very active and may not get as much respect so a fold was probably
the best option.-----

Yeah, pretty much word for word what you said. I think the fact that I just won a hand is a factor in how likely our opponents are to play back at us or call us. I think players are pretty much more likely to do so if we've played actively - especially recently.

drfkngflgud: posts small blind 50
jroll7: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [3d 3s]
ChuckTs: calls 100
lefevrec74: folds
Vogely: folds
Xmachine888: folds
yoni34: raises 100 to 200
tx75248: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
jroll7: folds
ChuckTs: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [Js Ah 2h]
ChuckTs: checks
yoni34: bets 400
ChuckTs: folds
yoni34 collected 550 from pot
yoni34: doesn't show hand

-----I probably just let this go. What are we going to accomplish besides
set mining. Do we intend to call a preflop raise. Maybe. But, 22-55 I fold
UTG even though I can justify the implied odds.-----


Trying to get a little more aggressive (I know, limping doesn't spell aggression, but it's more aggressive than folding). A little weaksauce; I planned on taking a shot at any decent flop, not just set-mining.

yoni34: posts small blind 50
tx75248: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ac Qc]
drfkngflgud: folds
jroll7: folds
ChuckTs: raises 200 to 300
superilker: folds
lefevrec74: folds
Xmachine888: folds
yoni34: folds
tx75248: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [Jd 5d 5c]
tx75248: bets 400
ChuckTs: folds
tx75248 collected 650 from pot
tx75248: doesn't show hand

-----I wouldn't mind a reraise here sometimes, but, don't disagree with the
fold either. You raised villain's big blind last time and it would
not surprise me if villain isn't blind defending in this spot allot of
the time.-----


Agreed. I remember this one specifically - villain was very tight and doesn't have less than a jack or 88/99 here. I don't disagree with a bluff 3-bet, but it's just a little too much for too small of a pot right now IMO.

PokerStars Game #12884692150: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL V (75/150) - 2007/10/27 - 19:04:11 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: yoni34 (970 in chips)
Seat 2: tx75248 (5215 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (5103 in chips)
Seat 4: jroll7 (3085 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (5875 in chips)
Seat 6: superilker (10050 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (4165 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (4940 in chips)
Seat 9: Xmachine888 (1495 in chips)
jroll7: posts small blind 75
ChuckTs: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [8d 9c]
superilker: folds
lefevrec74: folds
Dakain is connected
Dakain: folds
Xmachine888: folds
yoni34: folds
tx75248: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
jroll7: calls 75
ChuckTs: raises 300 to 450
jroll7: raises 2635 to 3085 and is all-in
ChuckTs: folds
jroll7 collected 900 from pot

-----I like the raise here. And although villain probably has air this
is a standard fold.-----

Agreed again. This one was just a positional steal; villain was very weak and I think he's got got some kind of a hand here.

PokerStars Game #12884843074: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL V (75/150) - 2007/10/27 - 19:12:29 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: yoni34 (820 in chips)
Seat 2: DolcePaula (1825 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (6228 in chips)
Seat 4: jroll7 (3010 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (5125 in chips)
Seat 6: superilker (9300 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (4310 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (6365 in chips)
Seat 9: Jako-San_76 (3498 in chips)
superilker: posts small blind 75
lefevrec74: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Qc Ks]
Dakain: folds
Jako-San_76: folds
yoni34: folds
DolcePaula: folds
drfkngflgud: calls 150
jroll7: calls 150
ChuckTs: raises 500 to 650
superilker: folds
lefevrec74: folds
drfkngflgud: calls 500
jroll7: folds
*** FLOP *** [7c 6d Kd]
drfkngflgud: checks
ChuckTs: bets 1050
drfkngflgud: calls 1050
*** TURN *** [7c 6d Kd] [Ts]
drfkngflgud: bets 4528 and is all-in
ChuckTs: calls 3425 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [7c 6d Kd Ts] 8♠
drfkngflgud said, "nh"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
drfkngflgud: shows [Jh Kh] (a pair of Kings)
ChuckTs: shows [Qc Ks] (a pair of Kings - Queen kicker)
ChuckTs collected 10625 from pot

-----Agree with your line completely. Tough call but a correct
one IMO.-----

This one was a reeeeeally tough hand for me. I tanked for so long on the turn. Surprised I didn't post this...maybe I thought it was a bad call, who knows.

I was sure this was either 89 or KT (maybe FD)...anyways, tough (marginal) call that turned out good.

PokerStars Game #12884931022: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL V (75/150) - 2007/10/27 - 19:17:24 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: DolcePaula (1675 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (3384 in chips)
Seat 4: jroll7 (5720 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (10625 in chips)
Seat 6: superilker (10045 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (4085 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (2777 in chips)
Seat 9: Jako-San_76 (2170 in chips)
drfkngflgud: posts small blind 75
jroll7: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Jd Js]
ChuckTs: raises 250 to 400
superilker: calls 400
lefevrec74: folds
Dakain: folds
Jako-San_76: folds
DolcePaula: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
jroll7: folds
*** FLOP *** [Jc 8c Qs]
ChuckTs: bets 625
superilker: folds
ChuckTs collected 1025 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand

-----I agree with the continuation bet. This is how you would have played
it had you not hit the set. And allot of Queens will stack off to you.-----


Agreed again. I plan on playing a lot of small pots (hence <3BB raise PF) in the future as well, and want to show that I'll do this with my monsters as well. Lots of draws on that flop too.

PokerStars Game #12884986857: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VI (100/200) - 2007/10/27 - 19:20:34 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: DolcePaula (1675 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (3009 in chips)
Seat 4: jroll7 (5495 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (11025 in chips)
Seat 6: superilker (10220 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (3385 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (2477 in chips)
Seat 9: Jako-San_76 (3195 in chips)
lefevrec74: posts small blind 100
Dakain: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Qd Jh]
Jako-San_76: raises 200 to 400
DolcePaula: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
jroll7: folds
ChuckTs: folds
superilker: folds
lefevrec74: folds
Dakain: raises 2077 to 2477 and is all-in
Jako-San_76: calls 2077
*** FLOP *** [Ac Kd Ah]
*** TURN *** [Ac Kd Ah] K♣
*** RIVER *** [Ac Kd Ah Kc] 7♣
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dakain: shows [As 2s] (a full house, Aces full of Kings)
Jako-San_76: shows [6c Ad] (a full house, Aces full of Kings)
Dakain collected 2527 from pot
Jako-San_76 collected 2527 from pot

-----I don't agree with folding this everytime here. We have a ton of fold equity
given stack sizes.-----

Not much to add here; I think we can go either way. I much prefer getting first in, but calling's fine.

PokerStars Game #12885050456: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VI (100/200) - 2007/10/27 - 19:24:11 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: hahahhaa (8883 in chips)
Seat 2: DolcePaula (1375 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (2109 in chips)
Seat 4: jroll7 (6395 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (11025 in chips)
Seat 6: superilker (11020 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (3585 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (2427 in chips)
Seat 9: Jako-San_76 (2945 in chips)
jroll7: posts small blind 100
ChuckTs: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [As Ah]
hahahhaa said, "next time"
superilker: folds
lefevrec74: folds
Dakain: folds
Jako-San_76: folds
hahahhaa: raises 600 to 800
DolcePaula: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
jroll7: raises 5595 to 6395 and is all-in
ChuckTs: raises 4630 to 11025 and is all-in
hahahhaa: folds
*** FLOP *** [Th 6h Ad]
*** TURN *** [Th 6h Ad] K♥
hahahhaa said, "hihi"
*** RIVER *** [Th 6h Ad Kh] Q♥
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jroll7: shows [Td Tc] (three of a kind, Tens)
ChuckTs: shows [As Ah] (a flush, Ace high)
ChuckTs collected 13590 from pot
hahahhaa said, "hahahhhaaa"

-----I might have flat called jroll preflop hoping to get a call from haha.
I don't mind seeing AA go three way when there isn't a chance of anyone else.
Obviously we would push almost any flop if haha called also.-----


Completely agree with you tos; this is what I thought right after I made the instinctual reraise.

hahahhaa is a complete maniac and I can probably suck the rest of his stack into the middle if I smooth call. I wasn't happy with myself after my quick (and wrong) decision PF here.
 
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PokerStars Game #12885146043: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VI (100/200) - 2007/10/27 - 19:29:43 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: hahahhaa (2598 in chips)
Seat 2: DolcePaula (1675 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (2709 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (17820 in chips)
Seat 6: superilker (11220 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (6770 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (6972 in chips)
ChuckTs: posts small blind 100
superilker: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Js Ks]
lefevrec74: folds
Dakain: calls 200
hahahhaa: calls 200
DolcePaula: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
ChuckTs: calls 100
superilker: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qh Tc 4h]
ChuckTs: checks
superilker: checks
Dakain: checks
hahahhaa: bets 2398 and is all-in
ChuckTs: calls 2398
superilker: folds
Dakain: folds
*** TURN *** [Qh Tc 4h] Q♦
*** RIVER *** [Qh Tc 4h Qd] A♠
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ChuckTs: shows [Js Ks] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
hahahhaa: shows [8h 9h] (a pair of Queens)
ChuckTs collected 5596 from pot

-----I don't mind the limp as much since we are so deep stacked. The flop call
is fairly easy because of the same.-----


Agreed. re: the flop call for those who disagree, again this guy is a maniac and I'm pretty sure that not only are my straight outs live, but the K and probably J are at least partial outs too.

PokerStars Game #12885184898: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VI (100/200) - 2007/10/27 - 19:31:58 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: DolcePaula (1675 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (2709 in chips)
Seat 4: KJB11 (2625 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (20818 in chips)
Seat 6: superilker (3848 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (6470 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (14244 in chips)
Dakain: posts small blind 100
DolcePaula: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ac 2c]
superilker said, "lol"
drfkngflgud: folds
KJB11: folds
ChuckTs: raises 350 to 550
Dakain said, "noone says nh ^^ ?"
superilker: folds
lefevrec74: folds
Dakain: folds
ChuckTs said, "NH SIR"
superilker said, "wqowww"
DolcePaula: folds
ChuckTs collected 500 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand
Dakain said, "thanks ^^"

-----I really like the raise. It is time to start exerting pressure
on the smaller stacks.-----


Agreed; smallball time.

PokerStars Game #12885227112: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII (150/300) - 2007/10/27 - 19:34:24 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: DreiZweiEins (9845 in chips)
Seat 2: DolcePaula (2850 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (2709 in chips)
Seat 4: KJB11 (2700 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (20918 in chips)
Seat 6: superilker (3848 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (5220 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (14144 in chips)
Seat 9: shotdown77 (16379 in chips)
DreiZweiEins: posts the ante 25
DolcePaula: posts the ante 25
drfkngflgud: posts the ante 25
KJB11: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
superilker: posts the ante 25
lefevrec74: posts the ante 25
Dakain: posts the ante 25
shotdown77: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts small blind 150
superilker: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ah 8h]
superilker said, "i com back"
lefevrec74: folds
Dakain: folds
shotdown77: folds
DreiZweiEins: folds
DolcePaula: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
KJB11: folds
ChuckTs: raises 3700 to 4000
superilker: calls 3523 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [8s 4h Ts]
*** TURN *** [8s 4h Ts] Q♦
*** RIVER *** [8s 4h Ts Qd] 8♦
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ChuckTs: shows [Ah 8h] (three of a kind, Eights)
superilker: shows [9c Kd] (a pair of Eights)
ChuckTs collected 7871 from pot

-----I don't understand the overbet here. What was your reasoning?-----

Normally, I like to raise a little more (usually 1BB more) than usual from the SB vs the BB because of our positional disadvantage, and because he'll be getting decent odds with a 3BB raise. Here, villain barely has 10BB covered, and a standard raise is for a good portion of his stack. If I'm going to call his 3-bet AI (which I probalby am), then I might as well push. We'll get full FE, and will occasionally get looked up by worse hands that think we're stealing (see K9o :eek:).

I reserve small ball for my big stack vs medium stacks/other big stacks. vs small stacks, I just stick em in so I don't have to be faced with a tough call if they push.

PokerStars Game #12885239056: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII (150/300) - 2007/10/27 - 19:35:06 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: DreiZweiEins (9820 in chips)
Seat 2: DolcePaula (2825 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (2684 in chips)
Seat 4: KJB11 (2675 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (24941 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (5195 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (14119 in chips)
Seat 9: shotdown77 (16354 in chips)
DreiZweiEins: posts the ante 25
DolcePaula: posts the ante 25
drfkngflgud: posts the ante 25
KJB11: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
lefevrec74: posts the ante 25
Dakain: posts the ante 25
shotdown77: posts the ante 25
lefevrec74: posts small blind 150
Dakain: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Tc Ts]
drfkngflgud said, "jeeze chuck do u loose?"
shotdown77: folds
ChuckTs said, "NEVAR"
DreiZweiEins: folds
DolcePaula: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
KJB11: raises 2350 to 2650 and is all-in
ChuckTs: raises 2350 to 5000
lefevrec74: folds
Dakain: folds
*** FLOP *** [7c 6d 2s]
*** TURN *** [7c 6d 2s] Q♣
*** RIVER *** [7c 6d 2s Qc] K♠
*** SHOW DOWN ***
KJB11: shows [Js Jc] (a pair of Jacks)
ChuckTs: shows [Tc Ts] (a pair of Tens)
KJB11 collected 5950 from pot
drfkngflgud said, "u did there"

-----Standard. I might have raised more than 5000, but, same result.-----

I disagree with raising more; all we're doing is committing ourselves the times when the blinds wake up with a bigger hand and come over the top. If we raise ~7500 here, we have to call a reshove. If we bet 5k and they come over the top, we know we're crushed and can get away safely.

PokerStars Game #12885250730: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII (150/300) - 2007/10/27 - 19:35:46 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: DreiZweiEins (9795 in chips)
Seat 2: DolcePaula (2800 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (2659 in chips)
Seat 4: KJB11 (5950 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (22266 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (5020 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (13794 in chips)
Seat 9: shotdown77 (16329 in chips)
DreiZweiEins: posts the ante 25
DolcePaula: posts the ante 25
drfkngflgud: posts the ante 25
KJB11: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
lefevrec74: posts the ante 25
Dakain: posts the ante 25
shotdown77: posts the ante 25
Dakain: posts small blind 150
shotdown77: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [8s 7c]
DreiZweiEins: calls 300
DolcePaula: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
KJB11: folds
ChuckTs said, "jinxed me :("
ChuckTs: folds
lefevrec74: folds
Dakain: calls 150
drfkngflgud said, "not like it hurt though haha"
shotdown77: checks
*** FLOP *** [8c 5d 9d]
Dakain: bets 300
shotdown77: folds
DreiZweiEins: calls 300
*** TURN *** [8c 5d 9d] [Tc]
Dakain: bets 900
DreiZweiEins: raises 2700 to 3600
Dakain: folds
DreiZweiEins collected 3500 from pot

-----Could have raised here too. You have been very active and I
probably would have folded as well.-----


Agreed again; we've been too active lately and I don't want to ruin my image.

PokerStars Game #12885352765: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII (150/300) - 2007/10/27 - 19:41:32 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: DreiZweiEins (8170 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (9002 in chips)
Seat 4: KJB11 (8675 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (21641 in chips)
Seat 6: jorieke (6205 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (6952 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (8519 in chips)
Seat 9: shotdown77 (15704 in chips)
DreiZweiEins: posts the ante 25
drfkngflgud: posts the ante 25
KJB11: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
jorieke: posts the ante 25
lefevrec74: posts the ante 25
Dakain: posts the ante 25
shotdown77: posts the ante 25
lefevrec74: posts small blind 150
Dakain: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [9h 9s]
shotdown77: folds
DreiZweiEins: raises 600 to 900
drfkngflgud: folds
KJB11: folds
ChuckTs: folds
jorieke: calls 900
lefevrec74: folds
Dakain: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qc As 8d]
DreiZweiEins: bets 600
jorieke: calls 600
*** TURN *** [Qc As 8d] 2♠
DreiZweiEins: bets 600
jorieke: folds
DreiZweiEins collected 3650 from pot

-----I reraise this hand to 3000 preflop.-----

Not sure why I didn't get involved here; maybe villain was really tight or maybe I just didn't want to play too many hands within a small timeline (bad reason, I know).

I think reraising is a little reckless. We have a tough decision if one of the 6-8k stacks shoves behind us...I don't know I don't hate a reraise, but it seems a little much to me.
Folding is definitely a little on the nitty side though.

PokerStars Game #12885367999: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII (150/300) - 2007/10/27 - 19:42:23 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: DreiZweiEins (10295 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (8977 in chips)
Seat 4: KJB11 (8650 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (21616 in chips)
Seat 6: jorieke (4680 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (6777 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (8194 in chips)
Seat 9: shotdown77 (15679 in chips)
DreiZweiEins: posts the ante 25
drfkngflgud: posts the ante 25
KJB11: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
jorieke: posts the ante 25
lefevrec74: posts the ante 25
Dakain: posts the ante 25
shotdown77: posts the ante 25
Dakain: posts small blind 150
shotdown77: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Jh 9h]
DreiZweiEins: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
KJB11: folds
ChuckTs: raises 450 to 750
jorieke: calls 750
lefevrec74: folds
Dakain: folds
shotdown77: folds
*** FLOP *** [8c Kh Jd]
ChuckTs: bets 1000
jorieke: folds
ChuckTs collected 2150 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand

-----I like playing this limped to you also. Standard continuation bet.
Standard result.-----


Yip yip yip. Smallball in action. You can see how different my open raising ranges are from my calling ranges too.

PokerStars Game #12885384313: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII (150/300) - 2007/10/27 - 19:43:19 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: DreiZweiEins (10270 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (8952 in chips)
Seat 4: KJB11 (8625 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (22991 in chips)
Seat 6: jorieke (3905 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (6752 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (8019 in chips)
Seat 9: shotdown77 (15354 in chips)
DreiZweiEins: posts the ante 25
drfkngflgud: posts the ante 25
KJB11: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
jorieke: posts the ante 25
lefevrec74: posts the ante 25
Dakain: posts the ante 25
shotdown77: posts the ante 25
shotdown77: posts small blind 150
DreiZweiEins: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Kc Ac]
drfkngflgud: folds
KJB11: folds
ChuckTs: raises 450 to 750
jorieke: folds
lefevrec74: folds
Dakain: folds
shotdown77: folds
DreiZweiEins: calls 450
*** FLOP *** [Qh 9d 7h]
DreiZweiEins: bets 1200
ChuckTs: folds
DreiZweiEins collected 1850 from pot

-----Not sure if I fold here. I don't have much of a reason for
calling or raising either though.-----


lol ^^

Well calling is terrible. We only have overs and a backdoor gutshot.

Raising has some merit to it, but he could very easily be doing this with 99/77 or even AQ, all of which he's not going anywhere with. I can't remember his stats, but I think this is pretty standard.

PokerStars Game #12885422145: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII (150/300) - 2007/10/27 - 19:45:27 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: DreiZweiEins (10995 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (8427 in chips)
Seat 4: KJB11 (8250 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (22166 in chips)
Seat 6: jorieke (2630 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (8527 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (7944 in chips)
Seat 9: shotdown77 (15929 in chips)
DreiZweiEins: posts the ante 25
drfkngflgud: posts the ante 25
KJB11: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
jorieke: posts the ante 25
lefevrec74: posts the ante 25
Dakain: posts the ante 25
shotdown77: posts the ante 25
KJB11: posts small blind 150
ChuckTs: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Tc 9h]
jorieke: folds
lefevrec74: folds
Dakain: raises 600 to 900
shotdown77: folds
DreiZweiEins: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
KJB11: folds
ChuckTs: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [2c 6h Js]
ChuckTs: bets 1050
Dakain: raises 1050 to 2100
ChuckTs: folds
Dakain collected 4250 from pot
Dakain: doesn't show hand
martinbry is connected
jimbones78 is connected

No comments here either; fyi this was just me abusing my big stack. Trying to represent the jack by putting out a little probe bet to see where I was at, and got my answer.

My big stack play is hardly perfect :)

PokerStars Game #12885445535: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VII (150/300) - 2007/10/27 - 19:46:47 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: DreiZweiEins (10945 in chips)
Seat 2: jimbones78 (3164 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (8377 in chips)
Seat 4: KJB11 (9125 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (20016 in chips)
Seat 6: martinbry (3490 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (8477 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (10194 in chips)
Seat 9: shotdown77 (15879 in chips)
DreiZweiEins: posts the ante 25
jimbones78: posts the ante 25
drfkngflgud: posts the ante 25
KJB11: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
martinbry: posts the ante 25
lefevrec74: posts the ante 25
Dakain: posts the ante 25
shotdown77: posts the ante 25
martinbry: posts small blind 150
lefevrec74: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Kd Jc]
Dakain: folds
jimbones78 said, "the usual grind"
shotdown77: calls 300
DreiZweiEins: folds
jimbones78: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
KJB11 said, "i feel ya"
KJB11: folds
ChuckTs: raises 600 to 900
martinbry: folds
lefevrec74: folds
shotdown77: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [Ks 9h 3d]
shotdown77: checks
ChuckTs: checks
*** TURN *** [Ks 9h 3d] 7♠
shotdown77: checks
ChuckTs: bets 1150
KJB11 said, "you a p5 member jim?"
shotdown77: calls 1150
*** RIVER *** [Ks 9h 3d 7s] [Ts]
shotdown77: bets 1500
ChuckTs: calls 1500
jimbones78 said, "yes"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
shotdown77: shows [Kh Js] (a pair of Kings)
ChuckTs: shows [Kd Jc] (a pair of Kings)
shotdown77 collected 3888 from pot
ChuckTs collected 3887 from pot

-----Big stacks playing passive pot control. I don't have problem with this
line. We would have been put in a tough spot had you raised the flop and
gotten reraised.-----
Was a little disappointed here :) Thought I'd made a masterful play and sucked him in with WA/WB strategy etc etc. Turns out we were softplaying the same hand.

PokerStars Game #12885544055: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VIII (200/400) - 2007/10/27 - 19:52:24 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: DreiZweiEins (8082 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (6102 in chips)
Seat 4: KJB11 (10225 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (19778 in chips)
Seat 6: martinbry (3965 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (16504 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (10369 in chips)
Seat 9: shotdown77 (14642 in chips)
DreiZweiEins: posts the ante 25
drfkngflgud: posts the ante 25
KJB11: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
martinbry: posts the ante 25
lefevrec74: posts the ante 25
Dakain: posts the ante 25
shotdown77: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts small blind 200
martinbry: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Qc 8d]
lefevrec74: folds
Dakain: folds
shotdown77: folds
DreiZweiEins: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
KJB11: folds
ChuckTs: folds
martinbry collected 600 from pot
martinbry: doesn't show hand

-----I probably make martinbry decide his tournament fate here.-----

Agreed; not sure why I let him off the hook here.

PokerStars Game #12885549188: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VIII (200/400) - 2007/10/27 - 19:52:41 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: DreiZweiEins (8057 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (6077 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (19553 in chips)
Seat 6: martinbry (4340 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (16479 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (10344 in chips)
Seat 9: shotdown77 (14617 in chips)
DreiZweiEins: posts the ante 25
drfkngflgud: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
martinbry: posts the ante 25
lefevrec74: posts the ante 25
Dakain: posts the ante 25
shotdown77: posts the ante 25
martinbry: posts small blind 200
lefevrec74: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Tc Kh]
Dakain: raises 800 to 1200
shotdown77: folds
DreiZweiEins: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
ChuckTs: folds
martinbry: folds
lefevrec74: calls 800
*** FLOP *** [Qh Kd Th]
lefevrec74: bets 1200
Dakain: raises 1200 to 2400
lefevrec74: folds
Dakain collected 5175 from pot
Dakain: shows [Ah Jc] (a straight, Ten to Ace)

-----I would have taken a pretty big hit here. I was going to advocate
a call and evaluate with position.-----


Again I much prefer getting my money in first. Calling is pretty marginal, but not terrible with position and our stack. Glad I took the safer route :)

PokerStars Game #12885578439: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VIII (200/400) - 2007/10/27 - 19:54:22 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: DreiZweiEins (7582 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (6002 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (19478 in chips)
Seat 6: martinbry (3665 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (13604 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (14994 in chips)
Seat 9: shotdown77 (14142 in chips)
DreiZweiEins: posts the ante 25
drfkngflgud: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
martinbry: posts the ante 25
lefevrec74: posts the ante 25
Dakain: posts the ante 25
shotdown77: posts the ante 25
shotdown77: posts small blind 200
DreiZweiEins: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [4c 5c]
drfkngflgud: folds
ChuckTs: raises 700 to 1100
martinbry: folds
lefevrec74: folds
Dakain: folds
shotdown77: folds
DreiZweiEins: raises 2500 to 3600
ChuckTs: folds
DreiZweiEins collected 2575 from pot

-----I don't hate this, but, we have been very active and will get played
back at more than normal. So we really need hands that we won't completely
hate calling a normal re-raise with.------

Agreed. I got cheeky here and I don't really have the monster stack anymore to be taking these longshots.

PokerStars Game #12885626735: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VIII (200/400) - 2007/10/27 - 19:57:08 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (5277 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (17453 in chips)
Seat 6: martinbry (2940 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (13854 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (26126 in chips)
Seat 9: shotdown77 (13817 in chips)
drfkngflgud: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
martinbry: posts the ante 25
lefevrec74: posts the ante 25
Dakain: posts the ante 25
shotdown77: posts the ante 25
lefevrec74: posts small blind 200
Dakain: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [9d Kd]
shotdown77: folds
Aania is connected
ROYAL BG is connected
drfkngflgud: folds
pastime1956 is connected
shotdown77 said, "that'll teach him"
ChuckTs: raises 700 to 1100
martinbry: folds
lefevrec74: folds
Dakain: folds
ChuckTs said, "probably not..."
ChuckTs collected 1150 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand
Dakain said, ":p"

-----This is my favorite non premium hand. K9 sooooooted-----

I too have a special spot for it in my heart. Again, just smallball.

PokerStars Game #12885745332: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VIII (200/400) - 2007/10/27 - 20:03:57 (ET)
Table '65386448 18' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Aania (5482 in chips)
Seat 3: drfkngflgud (3652 in chips)
Seat 4: ROYAL BG (32601 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (17378 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (30558 in chips)
Seat 8: Dakain (29242 in chips)
Seat 9: shotdown77 (14417 in chips)
Aania: posts the ante 25
drfkngflgud: posts the ante 25
ROYAL BG: posts the ante 25
ChuckTs: posts the ante 25
lefevrec74: posts the ante 25
Dakain: posts the ante 25
shotdown77: posts the ante 25
Dakain: posts small blind 200
shotdown77: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [9d 9s]
Aania: folds
drfkngflgud: folds
ROYAL BG: raises 400 to 800
ChuckTs: raises 1700 to 2500
lefevrec74: folds
Dakain: folds
shotdown77: folds
ROYAL BG: calls 1700
*** FLOP *** [2h 2s Kh]
ROYAL BG: bets 800
ChuckTs: raises 2400 to 3200
ROYAL BG: folds
ChuckTs collected 7375 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand

-----Well played-----

ty. Flop donk was weak and I wanted to end it there.

PokerStars Game #12885950138: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL IX (300/600) - 2007/10/27 - 20:15:44 (ET)
Table '65386448 14' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: YoungKern (6320 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (20478 in chips)
Seat 3: ROYAL BG (29464 in chips)
Seat 4: Dick Hertz (19859 in chips)
Seat 5: martinbry (840 in chips)
Seat 7: KJB11 (12950 in chips)
Seat 8: tx75248 (4360 in chips)
Seat 9: Aania (26078 in chips)
YoungKern: posts the ante 50
ChuckTs: posts the ante 50
ROYAL BG: posts the ante 50
Dick Hertz: posts the ante 50
martinbry: posts the ante 50
KJB11: posts the ante 50
tx75248: posts the ante 50
Aania: posts the ante 50
YoungKern: posts small blind 300
ChuckTs: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Js Qh]
YoungKern said, "i had a,q too , nice play"
ROYAL BG: folds
Dick Hertz: folds
martinbry: folds
KJB11 said, "wow how u fold that"
KJB11: raises 750 to 1350
Aania said, "thanks, I probably would have folded as well in your position"
YoungKern said, "i play to win"
Aania said, "AQ too risky"
tx75248: folds
Aania: folds
YoungKern: folds
ChuckTs: calls 750
*** FLOP *** [3h 2d 4s]
ChuckTs: checks
KJB11: bets 1500
ChuckTs: folds
KJB11 collected 3400 from pot
Aania said, "not too risky for me, though - AQ against unknown, on a smaller stack"
KJB11: doesn't show hand

-----I like the preflop call. I probably float the flop though. The straight
is not in villain's range. Villains range is AT+, 88+. We are deep enough to float this
and then evaluate with the intention of betting most turn cards.-----


Yeah, flop ch-f was pretty weak; I think floating and betting the turn is perfect for his stack size too.
 
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PokerStars Game #12886010808: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL IX (300/600) - 2007/10/27 - 20:19:15 (ET)
Table '65386448 14' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: YoungKern (5870 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (18678 in chips)
Seat 3: ROYAL BG (28114 in chips)
Seat 4: Dick Hertz (23109 in chips)
Seat 5: martinbry (690 in chips)
Seat 7: KJB11 (14850 in chips)
Seat 8: tx75248 (5510 in chips)
Seat 9: Aania (23528 in chips)
YoungKern: posts the ante 50
ChuckTs: posts the ante 50
ROYAL BG: posts the ante 50
Dick Hertz: posts the ante 50
martinbry: posts the ante 50
KJB11: posts the ante 50
tx75248: posts the ante 50
Aania: posts the ante 50
Dick Hertz: posts small blind 300
martinbry: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Th Kc]
KJB11: folds
tx75248: folds
Aania: folds
YoungKern said, "you made a smart play too , i was giving you props"
YoungKern: folds
ChuckTs: raises 900 to 1500
ROYAL BG: calls 1500
Dick Hertz: folds
martinbry: calls 40 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [4h 9s 6h]
ChuckTs: bets 2800
ROYAL BG: folds
*** TURN *** [4h 9s 6h] A♥
*** RIVER *** [4h 9s 6h Ah] 6♠
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ChuckTs: shows [Th Kc] (a pair of Sixes)
ChuckTs collected 1720 from side pot
martinbry: shows [Jh 8d] (a pair of Sixes - lower kicker)
ChuckTs collected 2620 from main pot

-----Positional raise. Standard continuation bet.-----


Something to add is that this hand will get shown down with the shortstack AI. I'm sacrificing some of my tight image for the chance at winning the pot here with the c-bet.

Not something I like to do all the time, but I don't look like a maniac or anything after this, so I'm fine with it.

PokerStars Game #12886037402: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL IX (300/600) - 2007/10/27 - 20:20:47 (ET)
Table '65386448 14' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: YoungKern (5820 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (21468 in chips)
Seat 3: ROYAL BG (26564 in chips)
Seat 4: Dick Hertz (22759 in chips)
Seat 7: KJB11 (14800 in chips)
Seat 8: tx75248 (5460 in chips)
Seat 9: Aania (23478 in chips)
YoungKern: posts the ante 50
ChuckTs: posts the ante 50
ROYAL BG: posts the ante 50
Dick Hertz: posts the ante 50
KJB11: posts the ante 50
tx75248: posts the ante 50
Aania: posts the ante 50
KJB11: posts small blind 300
tx75248: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Kd As]
Aania: folds
YoungKern: folds
ChuckTs: raises 900 to 1500
ROYAL BG: folds
Dick Hertz: calls 1500
KJB11: folds
tx75248: calls 900
*** FLOP *** [Qh Js Jd]
tx75248: checks
ChuckTs: checks
Dick Hertz: bets 4200
tx75248: folds
ChuckTs: folds
Dakain is connected
Dick Hertz collected 5150 from pot
Dick Hertz: doesn't show hand

-----Run Run Run. Agree fold.-----


Yep...sticky icky flop. Check scares me, player behind me scares me, I'm outta there.

PokerStars Game #12886080164: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL IX (300/600) - 2007/10/27 - 20:23:17 (ET)
Table '65386448 14' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: YoungKern (5870 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (19818 in chips)
Seat 3: ROYAL BG (22214 in chips)
Seat 4: Dick Hertz (26259 in chips)
Seat 5: Dakain (37856 in chips)
Seat 7: KJB11 (20450 in chips)
Seat 8: tx75248 (3510 in chips)
Seat 9: Aania (22928 in chips)
YoungKern: posts the ante 50
ChuckTs: posts the ante 50
ROYAL BG: posts the ante 50
Dick Hertz: posts the ante 50
Dakain: posts the ante 50
KJB11: posts the ante 50
tx75248: posts the ante 50
Aania: posts the ante 50
YoungKern: posts small blind 300
ChuckTs: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ad 9c]
YoungKern said, "h"
YoungKern said, "ha"
ROYAL BG: folds
Aania said, "nh ;)"
Dick Hertz: folds
Dakain: folds
KJB11: folds
tx75248: raises 2860 to 3460 and is all-in
Aania: folds
YoungKern: folds
ChuckTs: calls 2860
Aania said, "had me dominated, you should have pushed! ;)"
*** FLOP *** [5c Qd 9d]
*** TURN *** [5c Qd 9d] J♥
*** RIVER *** [5c Qd 9d Jh] 6♦
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ChuckTs: shows [Ad 9c] (a pair of Nines)
tx75248: shows [7d 7s] (a pair of Sevens)
ChuckTs collected 7620 from pot

-----Easy call with no one left to act.-----


Agreed again.

PokerStars Game #12886155626: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL X (400/800) - 2007/10/27 - 20:27:44 (ET)
Table '65386448 14' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: YoungKern (3845 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (24078 in chips)
Seat 3: ROYAL BG (25014 in chips)
Seat 4: Dick Hertz (24734 in chips)
Seat 5: Dakain (34531 in chips)
Seat 7: KJB11 (23775 in chips)
Seat 9: Aania (22928 in chips)
YoungKern: posts the ante 75
ChuckTs: posts the ante 75
ROYAL BG: posts the ante 75
Dick Hertz: posts the ante 75
Dakain: posts the ante 75
KJB11: posts the ante 75
Aania: posts the ante 75
ChuckTs: posts small blind 400
ROYAL BG: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [6s 6c]
Dick Hertz: folds
Dakain: folds
KJB11: folds
Aania: folds
YoungKern: folds
ChuckTs: raises 1600 to 2400
YoungKern said, "i could sure use some of those"
ROYAL BG: calls 1600
*** FLOP *** [Th 3h 3d]
YoungKern said, "even one of those"
ChuckTs: bets 3800
ROYAL BG: folds
ChuckTs collected 5325 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand

-----Agree-----


Agree with your agreement.

PokerStars Game #12886222454: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL X (400/800) - 2007/10/27 - 20:31:49 (ET)
Table '65386448 14' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: YoungKern (7790 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (26553 in chips)
Seat 3: ROYAL BG (17364 in chips)
Seat 4: Dick Hertz (25739 in chips)
Seat 5: Dakain (34606 in chips)
Seat 7: KJB11 (22125 in chips)
Seat 9: Aania (24728 in chips)
YoungKern: posts the ante 75
ChuckTs: posts the ante 75
ROYAL BG: posts the ante 75
Dick Hertz: posts the ante 75
Dakain: posts the ante 75
KJB11: posts the ante 75
Aania: posts the ante 75
YoungKern: posts small blind 400
ChuckTs: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Kd Ac]
ROYAL BG: folds
Dick Hertz: raises 1000 to 1800
Dakain: folds
KJB11: folds
Aania: folds
YoungKern: folds
ChuckTs: raises 3700 to 5500
Dick Hertz: calls 3700
*** FLOP *** [Jd 3h 2h]
ChuckTs: bets 9000
Dick Hertz: folds
ChuckTs collected 11925 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand

-----Agreed-----

Flop bet was a little big...don't entirely like this one.

PokerStars Game #12886365386: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XI (500/1000) - 2007/10/27 - 20:40:00 (ET)
Table '65386448 14' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: YoungKern (5115 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (30703 in chips)
Seat 3: ROYAL BG (19364 in chips)
Seat 4: Dick Hertz (20489 in chips)
Seat 5: Dakain (38856 in chips)
Seat 7: KJB11 (25425 in chips)
Seat 9: Aania (18953 in chips)
YoungKern: posts the ante 100
ChuckTs: posts the ante 100
ROYAL BG: posts the ante 100
Dick Hertz: posts the ante 100
Dakain: posts the ante 100
KJB11: posts the ante 100
Aania: posts the ante 100
ROYAL BG: posts small blind 500
Dick Hertz: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Qs Ac]
Dakain: folds
KJB11: raises 1800 to 2800
Aania: folds
YoungKern: folds
ChuckTs: raises 3500 to 6300
ROYAL BG: folds
Dick Hertz: folds
KJB11: calls 3500
*** FLOP *** [9s 2c 9d]
KJB11: checks
ChuckTs: bets 8000
KJB11: raises 11025 to 19025 and is all-in
ChuckTs: calls 11025
ChuckTs said, "sigh odds"
*** TURN *** [9s 2c 9d] 4♦
*** RIVER *** [9s 2c 9d 4d] A♠
*** SHOW DOWN ***
KJB11: shows [Tc Th] (two pair, Tens and Nines)
ChuckTs: shows [Qs Ac] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
ChuckTs collected 52850 from pot
ChuckTs said, "yay odds"

-----You pretty much summed it up in chat. Pot odds dictates a call here.-----

I really didn't like this one and still don't. Yes, I'm getting odds, but only because I overplayed my hand so much and bloated the pot. Again, we're getting odds, but if we call and lose we're screwed.

PokerStars Game #12886393910: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XI (500/1000) - 2007/10/27 - 20:41:39 (ET)
Table '65386448 14' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: YoungKern (5015 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (58128 in chips)
Seat 3: ROYAL BG (18764 in chips)
Seat 4: Dick Hertz (19389 in chips)
Seat 5: Dakain (38756 in chips)
Seat 9: Aania (18853 in chips)
YoungKern: posts the ante 100
ChuckTs: posts the ante 100
ROYAL BG: posts the ante 100
Dick Hertz: posts the ante 100
Dakain: posts the ante 100
Aania: posts the ante 100
Dick Hertz: posts small blind 500
Dakain: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ah Td]
ChuckTs said, "sorry man"
Aania: folds
YoungKern: raises 3915 to 4915 and is all-in
ChuckTs: raises 4085 to 9000
ROYAL BG: folds
Dick Hertz: folds
Dakain: folds
*** FLOP *** [5s 5d 5h]
*** TURN *** [5s 5d 5h] 8♦
*** RIVER *** [5s 5d 5h 8d] 4♥
*** SHOW DOWN ***
YoungKern: shows [Ad Qh] (three of a kind, Fives)
ChuckTs: shows [Ah Td] (three of a kind, Fives - lower kicker)
YoungKern collected 11930 from pot

-----Agree-----

yip

PokerStars Game #12886426558: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XI (500/1000) - 2007/10/27 - 20:43:33 (ET)
Table '65386448 14' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: YoungKern (14330 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (52913 in chips)
Seat 3: ROYAL BG (18464 in chips)
Seat 4: Dick Hertz (16089 in chips)
Seat 5: Dakain (40056 in chips)
Seat 9: Aania (17053 in chips)
YoungKern: posts the ante 100
ChuckTs: posts the ante 100
ROYAL BG: posts the ante 100
Dick Hertz: posts the ante 100
Dakain: posts the ante 100
Aania: posts the ante 100
YoungKern: posts small blind 500
ChuckTs: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [As Ad]
ROYAL BG: folds
Dick Hertz: folds
Dakain: folds
Aania: folds
YoungKern: raises 1500 to 2500
ChuckTs: calls 1500
*** FLOP *** [Ks Tc 3d]
YoungKern: bets 1000
ChuckTs: raises 4000 to 5000
YoungKern: raises 6730 to 11730 and is all-in
ChuckTs: calls 6730
*** TURN *** [Ks Tc 3d] 5♦
*** RIVER *** [Ks Tc 3d 5d] 7♣
*** SHOW DOWN ***
YoungKern: shows [Ts Kc] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
ChuckTs: shows [As Ad] (a pair of Aces)
YoungKern collected 29060 from pot
Aania said, "nicee"

-----I don't agree with the call preflop. The table has been freely re-raising
hands and getting callers. There wasn't a need to disguise the hand here.
As played I agree with your postflop betting.-----


Wasn't happy with myself with this one either. The play does have some merit to it - we induce a c-bet postflop and can commit him with even a bluff.

There are a few problems though - we let small pairs see a flop which gives them a chance to let go of their hand (same with big unimproved cards). Not only that, but we give him a chance at outdrawing us obv.

Add in the fact that we've 3-bet AT and AQo in the last few hands, and I agree that this is an easy PF push.

PokerStars Game #12886440273: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XI (500/1000) - 2007/10/27 - 20:44:21 (ET)
Table '65386448 14' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: YoungKern (29060 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (38583 in chips)
Seat 3: ROYAL BG (18364 in chips)
Seat 4: Dick Hertz (15989 in chips)
Seat 5: Dakain (39956 in chips)
Seat 9: Aania (16953 in chips)
YoungKern: posts the ante 100
ChuckTs: posts the ante 100
ROYAL BG: posts the ante 100
Dick Hertz: posts the ante 100
Dakain: posts the ante 100
Aania: posts the ante 100
ChuckTs: posts small blind 500
ROYAL BG: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Tc 7c]
Dick Hertz: folds
Dakain: folds
Aania: folds
YoungKern: folds
ChuckTs: folds
ROYAL BG collected 1600 from pot

-----Possibly could have tried blind stealing.-----


After that disaster they're definitely going to pin me on a tilt steal. Not my favourite position to be in.

PokerStars Game #12886511332: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XI (500/1000) - 2007/10/27 - 20:48:31 (ET)
Table '65386448 14' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: YoungKern (47824 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (35983 in chips)
Seat 3: baorau (44894 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
Seat 4: Dick Hertz (12389 in chips)
Seat 5: Dakain (38856 in chips)
Seat 6: jackie vegas (15628 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (30262 in chips)
Seat 8: Bighutch (20311 in chips)
Seat 9: Aania (23853 in chips)
YoungKern: posts the ante 100
ChuckTs: posts the ante 100
Dick Hertz: posts the ante 100
Dakain: posts the ante 100
jackie vegas: posts the ante 100
lefevrec74: posts the ante 100
Bighutch: posts the ante 100
Aania: posts the ante 100
Dick Hertz: posts small blind 500
Dakain: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [7h 7c]
jackie vegas: folds
lefevrec74: raises 2000 to 3000
Bighutch: folds
Aania: calls 3000
YoungKern: folds
ChuckTs: calls 3000
Dick Hertz: folds
Dakain: calls 2000
*** FLOP *** [Jc 2c 3d]
Dakain: checks
lefevrec74: checks
Aania: bets 4000
ChuckTs: folds
Dakain: raises 4000 to 8000
lefevrec74: folds
Aania: raises 12753 to 20753 and is all-in
Dakain: calls 12753
*** TURN *** [Jc 2c 3d] J♠
*** RIVER *** [Jc 2c 3d Js] 2♠
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dakain: shows [Tc Jh] (a full house, Jacks full of Deuces)
Aania: shows [Ah Ac] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
Aania said, "grrr"
Dakain collected 54806 from pot
YoungKern said, "vgg"

-----I don't have a problem with set mining this hand at all-----


Agreed; especially with position.

PokerStars Game #12886538898: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XI (500/1000) - 2007/10/27 - 20:50:08 (ET)
Table '65386448 14' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: YoungKern (47624 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (32783 in chips)
Seat 3: baorau (44794 in chips)
Seat 4: Dick Hertz (13989 in chips)
Seat 5: Dakain (69209 in chips)
Seat 6: jackie vegas (14428 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (27062 in chips)
Seat 8: Bighutch (20111 in chips)
YoungKern: posts the ante 100
ChuckTs: posts the ante 100
baorau: posts the ante 100
Dick Hertz: posts the ante 100
Dakain: posts the ante 100
jackie vegas: posts the ante 100
lefevrec74: posts the ante 100
Bighutch: posts the ante 100
jackie vegas: posts small blind 500
lefevrec74: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Jc Kc]
Bighutch: folds
YoungKern: folds
ChuckTs: raises 1500 to 2500
baorau: folds
Dick Hertz: raises 11389 to 13889 and is all-in
Dakain: folds
jackie vegas: folds
lefevrec74: folds
ChuckTs: folds
Dick Hertz collected 7300 from pot
Dick Hertz: doesn't show hand

-----I wouldn't mind seeing this called. Really I am indifferent.-----

Had you seen his stats you'd snapfold ;)

PokerStars Game #12886580526: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XI (500/1000) - 2007/10/27 - 20:52:36 (ET)
Table '65386448 14' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: YoungKern (46324 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (29983 in chips)
Seat 3: baorau (91288 in chips)
Seat 4: Dick Hertz (39378 in chips)
Seat 5: Dakain (5826 in chips)
Seat 6: jackie vegas (13628 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (25262 in chips)
Seat 8: Bighutch (18311 in chips)
YoungKern: posts the ante 100
ChuckTs: posts the ante 100
baorau: posts the ante 100
Dick Hertz: posts the ante 100
Dakain: posts the ante 100
jackie vegas: posts the ante 100
lefevrec74: posts the ante 100
Bighutch: posts the ante 100
YoungKern: posts small blind 500
ChuckTs: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [8c Js]
baorau: calls 1000
Dick Hertz: folds
Dakain: folds
jackie vegas: folds
lefevrec74: calls 1000
Bighutch: calls 1000
YoungKern: calls 500
ChuckTs: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ts 8s 9s]
YoungKern: checks
ChuckTs: checks
baorau: bets 4000
lefevrec74: folds
Bighutch: raises 13211 to 17211 and is all-in
YoungKern: folds
ChuckTs: folds
baorau: folds
Bighutch collected 13800 from pot
Bighutch: doesn't show hand

-----I probably would have called this. It fits villains range but we have
a ton of outs.-----

I was planning on ch-raising this, but hutch pushed me out. I won't argue that a call is in order, but with only the j-high FD alongside my 2 pair outs and straight draw, I could be drawing pretty slim vs AsTx or something like that.

PokerStars Game #12886663682: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XII (600/1200) - 2007/10/27 - 20:57:35 (ET)
Table '65386448 14' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: YoungKern (47949 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (27808 in chips)
Seat 3: baorau (77712 in chips)
Seat 4: Dick Hertz (37103 in chips)
Seat 5: Dakain (23353 in chips)
Seat 6: jackie vegas (11153 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (20886 in chips)
Seat 8: Bighutch (24036 in chips)
YoungKern: posts the ante 125
ChuckTs: posts the ante 125
baorau: posts the ante 125
Dick Hertz: posts the ante 125
Dakain: posts the ante 125
jackie vegas: posts the ante 125
lefevrec74: posts the ante 125
Bighutch: posts the ante 125
lefevrec74: posts small blind 600
Bighutch: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [As Ks]
YoungKern: folds
ChuckTs: raises 2300 to 3500
baorau: folds
Dick Hertz: folds
Dakain: folds
jackie vegas: raises 7528 to 11028 and is all-in
lefevrec74: folds
Bighutch: folds
ChuckTs: calls 7528
*** FLOP *** [4c Tc 6d]
*** TURN *** [4c Tc 6d] 4♦
*** RIVER *** [4c Tc 6d 4d] 3♦
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ChuckTs: shows [As Ks] (a pair of Fours)
jackie vegas: shows [Th Qh] (two pair, Tens and Fours)
jackie vegas collected 24856 from pot

-----Pretty standard call IMO-----

Agreed again. Damn QT :)

PokerStars Game #12886734815: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XII (600/1200) - 2007/10/27 - 21:01:51 (ET)
Table '65386448 14' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: YoungKern (42999 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (14230 in chips)
Seat 3: baorau (83115 in chips)
Seat 4: Dick Hertz (32153 in chips)
Seat 5: Dakain (48606 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (24736 in chips)
Seat 8: Bighutch (24161 in chips)
YoungKern: posts the ante 125
ChuckTs: posts the ante 125
baorau: posts the ante 125
Dick Hertz: posts the ante 125
Dakain: posts the ante 125
lefevrec74: posts the ante 125
Bighutch: posts the ante 125
Dakain: posts small blind 600
lefevrec74: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ah Qc]
Bighutch: folds
YoungKern: folds
ChuckTs: raises 12905 to 14105 and is all-in
baorau: folds
Dick Hertz: folds
Dakain: folds
lefevrec74: folds
ChuckTs collected 3875 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand

-----Good push.-----

Yep. M of ~5 (even smaller considering we're getting shorthanded) makes this easy as pie.
Don't like that I'm in push/fold mode at the FT though.

PokerStars Game #12886762057: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XII (600/1200) - 2007/10/27 - 21:03:29 (ET)
Table '65386448 14' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: YoungKern (41424 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (16530 in chips)
Seat 3: baorau (82740 in chips)
Seat 4: Dick Hertz (34453 in chips)
Seat 5: Dakain (47631 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (26436 in chips)
Seat 8: Bighutch (20786 in chips)
YoungKern: posts the ante 125
ChuckTs: posts the ante 125
baorau: posts the ante 125
Dick Hertz: posts the ante 125
Dakain: posts the ante 125
lefevrec74: posts the ante 125
Bighutch: posts the ante 125
YoungKern: posts small blind 600
ChuckTs: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [6d 9h]
baorau: folds
Dick Hertz: folds
Dakain: folds
lefevrec74: folds
Bighutch: folds
Bighutch is sitting out
YoungKern: calls 600
ChuckTs: checks
*** FLOP *** [5h 4d Jh]
YoungKern: checks
ChuckTs: checks
*** TURN *** [5h 4d Jh] 8♥
YoungKern: checks
ChuckTs: bets 2200
YoungKern: folds
ChuckTs collected 3275 from pot
ChuckTs: doesn't show hand

-----I like the bet given we have outs-----


Me too; we're gonna be in tons of these little blind battles as the game goes on too, so we need to be making bets with even worse in the future.

PokerStars Game #12886822455: TOURNAMENT #65386448, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XII (600/1200) - 2007/10/27 - 21:07:07 (ET)
Table '65386448 14' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: YoungKern (39474 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (17255 in chips)
Seat 3: baorau (82865 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: Dick Hertz (31903 in chips)
Seat 5: Dakain (53106 in chips)
Seat 7: lefevrec74 (26561 in chips)
Seat 8: Bighutch (18836 in chips)
YoungKern: posts the ante 125
ChuckTs: posts the ante 125
baorau: posts the ante 125
Dick Hertz: posts the ante 125
Dakain: posts the ante 125
lefevrec74: posts the ante 125
Bighutch: posts the ante 125
Bighutch: posts small blind 600
YoungKern: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Kc Qd]
ChuckTs: raises 15930 to 17130 and is all-in
baorau: folds
baorau has returned
Dick Hertz: folds
Dakain: folds
lefevrec74: folds
Bighutch: calls 16530
YoungKern: folds
*** FLOP *** [6d Jc Ts]
*** TURN *** [6d Jc Ts] 6♠
*** RIVER *** [6d Jc Ts 6s] 4♦
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Bighutch: shows [Ad 9s] (a pair of Sixes)
ChuckTs: shows [Kc Qd] (a pair of Sixes - lower kicker)
Bighutch collected 36335 from pot

-----Standard Push-----


Bah. Not sure this is standard, but it's not terrible. We're short and the blinds are obv only going up. I shot for the win here, and definitely thought I could fold out A9o. villain was a nit too :/


Thanks again for taking the time to analyze this, tos. Much appreciated :)
 
NineLions

NineLions

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Thanks guys.

Nice reading while I'm donking my way out of 2 SnGs.
 
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