Top pair against a difficult player

OzExorcist

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Reads: it's still pretty early in the game, but villain seems to be the most aggressive player at the table aside from me - actually, from his play so far, it seems like his style is pretty similar to mine. He's been regularly making continuation bets and has taken down a few pots uncontested. I've done much the same. I could be imagining it, but it feels like he's the only other player at the table paying attention to how his opponents are playing.

The players in the blinds have both played pretty weak-tight so far, as has pretty much everyone else on the table (Seat 3 knocked a player out with QQ on the first hand, and has seemed content to just sit on his money since).

Other info: the hand immediately prior to this one, I came in raising on the flop, bet the turn (an ace) then had to fold when a tighter player re-raised me. So if anyone's paying attention, it might look like I'm tilting a little bit in this hand. Maybe I actually am :p

Anywho, here goes:

full tilt poker Game #5340557435: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (40616507), Table 1 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 7:42:16 ET - 2008/02/21
Seat 2: EL TOBE (1,375)
Seat 3: zaavtahor (3,175)
Seat 4: Manzarra (1,315)
Seat 5: hotslots0816 (1,675)
Seat 6: OzExorcist (1,455)
Seat 7: schray04 (1,225)
Seat 8: ExeRco (1,455)
Seat 9: mike6414 (1,825)
schray04 posts the small blind of 20
ExeRco posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OzExorcist [Jh Qd]
mike6414 calls 40
EL TOBE folds
zaavtahor folds
Manzarra folds
hotslots0816 folds
OzExorcist raises to 175 (I figure the blinds will tell me immediately if they're strong, my hand fares alright against villain's limping range and I'll have position if called)
schray04 folds
ExeRco folds
mike6414 calls 135
*** FLOP *** [2d Qs 9h]
mike6414 bets 160 (pretty standard for this villain, from what I've seen so far)
OzExorcist raises to 450
mike6414 raises to 740 (?!?)

So... what to do?
 
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It's a safe enough board, rainbow with little straight possibilities.

The problem here is the pot is becoming very large compared to your stack. Calling is pretty much out of the question because I think he'll force you all in on the turn.

There's a few hands that beat you: Q9, 99, 22, KQ. The other hands that beat you I think would of raised preflop. We can probably discount Q9 and possibly KQ. Shove, and hope for the best.
 
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Shove. The only hand you'd need to be really worried about is 22. Villian would have raised preflop w/ 99, KQ, AQ.
 
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I'm a little weary of villain limping in from utg. You say he is the most aggressive player at the table? Why is he limping? What has been his history with limping? I think he has you beat with an over-pair or AQ, I think he was tricky with this one.
 
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beware the early limper.. he coulda had any two cards there..
 
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id more then likely shove. he could just be a donkey player trying to hit a open ended straight or he could have like j9 or something hoping to luck out with another 9 or hit a miracle straight! which ud hit the straight also!
 
OzExorcist

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I'm a little weary of villain limping in from utg. You say he is the most aggressive player at the table? Why is he limping? What has been his history with limping? I think he has you beat with an over-pair or AQ, I think he was tricky with this one.

He's limped in a couple of times prior to this, but hasn't ever shown down a limped hand - mostly he's been taking the pot down with bets after the flop. So this wasn't anything out of the ordinary for him, the limp itself didn't make me suspicious.
 
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unless ur ready to push-in, i'd just give it up & catch him later when ur stronger...top pair isnt worth it...l

so, how did it end ?
 
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OK, so results.

I shoved, villain instacalled with QT, I took his moneyz and went on to win the game. The result was a good one, but I'm still not sure I like how I played this...
 
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I see where you are coming from with your thought process, but even on the button the last thing I would want to do with a player who I have read to be a decent player is start raising pf with QJ when he has come into the pot from UTG. Position or not it is asking for trouble a little bit, especially if or more likely when he comes out firing on the flop. From playing a similar style you should know that an aggressive style can sometimes like getting their money in first.

Turns out his limp was with a crappy hand and he made a bizzare re-raise so maybe he wasn't that solid but still, I wouldn't consider raising a great play in this spot. You can always even call and see a flop, you will still have position but you have put less money in with a mediocre at best hand.
 
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Yeah, it was a case of donkey riding a donkey, you shouldn't have called a %100 re-raise with a simple jack kicker on top pair, this is not an ideal play, his re-raise simply screams two pair, set, AQ, or some extremely out draw such as flush etc. IMO
 
OzExorcist

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Yeah, it was a case of donkey riding a donkey, you shouldn't have called a %100 re-raise with a simple jack kicker on top pair, this is not an ideal play, his re-raise simply screams two pair, set, AQ, or some extremely out draw such as flush etc. IMO

*shrugs*

100% re-raise = minraise, and I didn't just call it. But anywho
 
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