Top & Bottom in Tilt $3R

[The Shrog]

full tilt poker Game #5009983255: $6,000 Guarantee (Rebuy) (37372266), Table 11 - 250/500 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:50:31 ET - 2008/01/26
Seat 1: LUCKYSBD (20,058)
Seat 2: DEKE971 (5,954)
Seat 3: IFiDiDiT707 (5,992)
Seat 4: The Shrog (17,225)
Seat 5: kicker37 (8,495)
Seat 6: nitty187 (18,420)
Seat 7: vtfishin (19,863)
Seat 8: seanypaj (13,005)
Seat 9: TazeRamoN (10,340)
LUCKYSBD antes 50
DEKE971 antes 50
IFiDiDiT707 antes 50
The Shrog antes 50
kicker37 antes 50
nitty187 antes 50
vtfishin antes 50
seanypaj antes 50
TazeRamoN antes 50
vtfishin posts the small blind of 250
seanypaj posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to The Shrog [3d Ad]
TazeRamoN calls 500
LUCKYSBD folds
DEKE971 folds
IFiDiDiT707 folds
The Shrog calls 500
kicker37 folds
nitty187 folds
vtfishin calls 250
seanypaj checks
*** FLOP *** [Jh As 3h]
vtfishin checks
seanypaj checks
TazeRamoN bets 1,000
The Shrog raises to 3,000
vtfishin folds
seanypaj has 15 seconds left to act
seanypaj folds
TazeRamoN calls 2,000
*** TURN *** [Jh As 3h] [Jd]
TazeRamoN has 15 seconds left to act
TazeRamoN bets 6,790, and is all in
The Shrog has 15 seconds left to act

??

 

[heatfan03]

Full Tilt Poker Game #5009983255: $6,000 Guarantee (Rebuy) (37372266), Table 11 - 250/500 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:50:31 ET - 2008/01/26
Seat 1: LUCKYSBD (20,058)
Seat 2: DEKE971 (5,954)
Seat 3: IFiDiDiT707 (5,992)
Seat 4: The Shrog (17,225)
Seat 5: kicker37 (8,495)
Seat 6: nitty187 (18,420)
Seat 7: vtfishin (19,863)
Seat 8: seanypaj (13,005)
Seat 9: TazeRamoN (10,340)
LUCKYSBD antes 50
DEKE971 antes 50
IFiDiDiT707 antes 50
The Shrog antes 50
kicker37 antes 50
nitty187 antes 50
vtfishin antes 50
seanypaj antes 50
TazeRamoN antes 50
vtfishin posts the small blind of 250
seanypaj posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to The Shrog [3d Ad]
TazeRamoN calls 500
LUCKYSBD folds
DEKE971 folds
IFiDiDiT707 folds
The Shrog calls 500
kicker37 folds
nitty187 folds
vtfishin calls 250
seanypaj checks
*** FLOP *** [Jh As 3h]
vtfishin checks
seanypaj checks
TazeRamoN bets 1,000
The Shrog raises to 3,000
vtfishin folds
seanypaj has 15 seconds left to act
seanypaj folds
TazeRamoN calls 2,000
*** TURN *** [Jh As 3h] J♦
TazeRamoN has 15 seconds left to act
TazeRamoN bets 6,790, and is all in
The Shrog has 15 seconds left to act

??

well he calls from Early Position
and he doesnt reraise on the flop so i dont put him on AJ here as the flush draw might intimidate him. I think a jack is very possible here. Fold.

 

[The Shrog]

Same game--final hand for me.

Full Tilt poker game #5010308228: $6,000 Guarantee (Rebuy) (37372266), Table 51 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:19:15 ET - 2008/01/26
Seat 1: wtfbbq (28,240)
Seat 2: Goos79 (27,776)
Seat 3: DonkElimin8tor (42,395)
Seat 4: The Shrog (12,475)
Seat 5: vtfishin (25,205)
Seat 6: behrkub (4,230), is sitting out
Seat 7: Mjemiolo (28,395)
Seat 8: richierich1950 (16,540)
Seat 9: al215 (11,231)
wtfbbq antes 125
Goos79 antes 125
DonkElimin8tor antes 125
The Shrog antes 125
vtfishin antes 125
behrkub antes 125
Mjemiolo antes 125
richierich1950 antes 125
al215 antes 125
The Shrog posts the small blind of 500
vtfishin posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to The Shrog [Ad 5d]
behrkub folds
Mjemiolo folds
richierich1950 folds
al215 folds
wtfbbq folds
Goos79 folds
behrkub has reconnected
behrkub has returned
DonkElimin8tor has 15 seconds left to act
DonkElimin8tor folds
The Shrog calls 500
vtfishin checks
*** FLOP *** [3d 6d 6s]
The Shrog checks
vtfishin bets 3,125
The Shrog has 15 seconds left to act
The Shrog raises to 11,350, and is all in
vtfishin has 15 seconds left to act
vtfishin calls 8,225
The Shrog shows [Ad 5d]
vtfishin shows [3s Ac]
*** TURN *** [3d 6d 6s] [9s]
*** RIVER *** [3d 6d 6s 9s] [7h]
The Shrog shows a pair of Sixes
vtfishin shows two pair, Sixes and Threes
vtfishin wins the pot (25,825) with two pair, Sixes and Threes
The Shrog stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 25,825 | Rake 0
Board: [3d 6d 6s 9s 7h]
Seat 1: wtfbbq folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Goos79 folded before the Flop
Seat 3: DonkElimin8tor (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: The Shrog (small blind) showed [Ad 5d] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 5: vtfishin (big blind) showed [3s Ac] and won (25,825) with two pair, Sixes and Threes
Seat 6: behrkub folded before the Flop
Seat 7: Mjemiolo folded before the Flop
Seat 8: richierich1950 folded before the Flop
Seat 9: al215 folded before the Flop


With the pot-sized bet, my thoughts were either 3-x or possible air? When I prepared the all in bet, I actually second thought it, so maybe second guessing myself I shouldn't have pushed? Anyway, I ruled out the 6 because of the bet size, and figured if he had a lone 3 and could even make the call, my two overs with the nut draw was good for the price. What do you think?

 

[CfPoker]

A couple of things stand out on the last hand for me.

Firstly, why didn't you raise (or possibly shove, your stack is in that awkward spot) pre flop? Ok, in this case he may well of called but usually that'd take the pot there and then with no fuss.

On the flop, well, you missed it. You didn't raise preflop so it's entirely reasonable he has a 3 or a 6. He probably is scared of the flush draw, hence he made the bet big enough to make you fold, which is what I would have done here. Your stack is short but you should have just enough time to pick a better spot to commit your chips later on.

 

[arkadiy]

1st Hand: Fold, your 3 now means nothing. You lose to any other A (besides A2) and to any J.

2nd Hand: Just saw you had flush draw. Now that changes the play a little bit. You had about 45% chance to win and 4% chance to tie. If short stacked, right move. You still had over 10 BB, but I can see why you might have shoved there.

 

[switch0723]

First hand, why have you limped in with ace rag? Doing that gets you in situations like this. Insta fold the turn as you are also now beaten by any ace aswell as a jack.

in the 2nd hand you have an m of about 5 and its folded to you in the sb. Push this please with your ace. The chances are you wont get called by the bb. Or at the very least raise, but you will be out of position doing that so a shove is probably the best option

 

[The Shrog]

I realized after that I played the A-rag very poorly, thank you for the help. I should have waited for a better spot.

Also, "m" stands for?

 

[switch0723]

im not very good at explaining but ill try. M is the amount of orbits you can survive with your stack, it takes into account blinds and antes.

example

ante 100
sb 1000
bb 2000

an orbit at this table would cost you 2000+1000+(9*100) = 3900

If you have a chipstack of 39000, you therefore can survive 10 orbits, so your m is 10.

I hope that makes sense