SnG, AQ, A of the flush suit

NineLions

NineLions

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This is the cheapest level SnG at a site where I'm trying to see how far I can go with a freeroll winning.

avia has been very LAG; in almost every other hand and raising/betting. Previous hand a short stack doubled up nicely by using the Rope a Dope strategy when avia paired the bottom card on the flop and led the betting all the way through.



Players(max 10):
Pinkos Y (3,120.00 in seat 1)
Marcus_33 (1,310.00 in seat 2)
xpapikx (1,150.00 in seat 3)
j-ms1982 (1,085.00 in seat 5)
aviadregev (4,875.00 in seat 7)
NineLions (1,960.00 in seat 8)
Pattywolf (550.00 in seat 9)
bennytaxi (950.00 in seat 10)

Dealer: Marcus_33
Small Blind: xpapikx (25.00)
Big Blind: j-ms1982 (50.00)

ninelions was dealt: Qs - Ad

aviadregev Raise (100.00)
NineLions Call (100.00)
Pattywolf Fold
bennytaxi Fold
Pinkos Y Fold
Marcus_33 Call (100.00)
xpapikx Call (75.00)
j-ms1982 Call (50.00)

Flop 7d - Qd - Kd

xpapikx Check
j-ms1982 Bet (375.00)
aviadregev Raise (750.00)
NineLions ???


I have no idea from reads whether either bet implies a flush; it's possible that the raise could mean a made flush, but then it's coming from the LAG. I've got the Ace of the flush, paired the Q, maybe both bets represent Kings?
 
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aliengenius

aliengenius

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My initial reaction here is shove. If j-ms has tp you have 14 outs, making you just less than 2:1 seeing two cards. avia most likely has nothing but aggression. If you have any fold equity at all vs the initial better your shove is good w 1675 in the pot.
 
buick60

buick60

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I think you have to be the aggressor and re-raise probably all in.You have way too many outs to fold.:cool:
 
Egon Towst

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I am a little worried that you say Avia was caught overplaying a weak hand just moments before. Unless he is a total maniac, I doubt he would be repeating the error, and therefore must have a real hand.

Even so, I agree with AG. You have the odds. Shove.
 
royalburrito24

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when in doubt, shove it all in and hope for the best


(disregard the "when in doubt", but yea, shovesky)
 
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If I read the HH correctly, there's 1675 in the pot at the time you have to make your decision. In case you're against a made flush and something like 2 pair or a set you're 20-25% to win you have to call 1000ish (or push without fold equity). I don't see either villain folding. I think I fold here.
 
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NineLions

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At worst, if one of them has a made flush, I've got 7 out left to me. If on the other hand the best hand out there is a K, then 2 Qs and even 3 As are good giving me 14 outs. I know I don't have fold equity against avia, but maybe some against the other guy.


I appreciate the comments, since it's another one of those hands that I wonder whether I did the best thing or not. I shoved, they both called with Ks giving me something like 54% chance of winning according to Pokerstove, but no help came. j-s showed KJ, and a J came on the turn so he tripled up and avia took the rest of my chips.
 
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Riedel

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Unfortunate, given the hands they called you with you had more than proper odds. My fold totally without reads. I still think you had no fold equity whatsoever barring someone completely bluffing. I think the re-push gives everyone proper odds to call if the flop helped them in some way. Villain 1 only has to call 600ish or so for a huge pot, and villain 2 already has invested too much to fold anything. Your stack wasn't big enough to push anyone out of the hand.
 
rounder22

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I would say easy push most likely middle pair weaker kicker or on flush draw which you have the best possible draw too.
 
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snrcreech

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I think you are beat at this point. All in on a flush draw? not me fold fold fold
 
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