Slow played set



Cardschat Elite
I suppose an arguement could be made for folding this hand PF with only mediocre position, but I had enough chips to gamble with.

pokerstars Game #6126386662: Tournament #31047225, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/09/01 - 00:21:34 (ET)
Table '31047225 20' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Effexor1 (5425 in chips)
Seat 2: depic3 (3590 in chips)
Seat 3: ljamafemi (1340 in chips)
Seat 4: jhill_madami (1895 in chips)
Seat 5: adwillia (3745 in chips)
Seat 6: xerxes0000 (1740 in chips)
Seat 7: gametime84 (2885 in chips)
Seat 8: chasloch (2230 in chips)
Seat 9: black Oni (3850 in chips)
ljamafemi: posts small blind 50
jhill_madami: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor1 [Ts 9s]
adwillia: folds
xerxes0000: raises 300 to 400
gametime84: folds
chasloch: folds
black Oni: folds
Effexor1: calls 400
depic3: folds
ljamafemi: folds
jhill_madami: folds
*** FLOP *** [Js 3c Qh]
xerxes0000: checks
Effexor1: checks
*** TURN *** [Js 3c Qh] [5d]
xerxes0000: checks
Effexor1: checks
*** RIVER *** [Js 3c Qh 5d] [Kh]
xerxes0000: bets 400
Effexor1: raises 800 to 1200 I meant to put him all in here, bad math
xerxes0000: raises 140 to 1340 and is all-in
Effexor1: calls 140
*** SHOW DOWN ***
xerxes0000: shows [Jh Jc] (three of a kind, Jacks)
Effexor1: shows [Ts 9s] (a straight, Nine to King)
Effexor1 collected 3630 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3630 | Rake 0
Board [Js 3c Qh 5d Kh]
Seat 1: Effexor1 showed [Ts 9s] and won (3630) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 2: depic3 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ljamafemi (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: jhill_madami (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: adwillia folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: xerxes0000 showed [Jh Jc] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 7: gametime84 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: chasloch folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: black Oni folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Also, I usually will bet my draws, but I had just been caught on a steal attempt betting with 2 overs. Might be why villian slow played here too, waiting for aggressive me to take a shot at the pot.


xerxes0000 played that really badly. I was going to mention a bet with the draw but you touched on that at the bottom of your post. Nice one. How'd you go in the tournament from then on?


Cardschat Elite
I ended up in 40th of 180, really bad play / luck. First my flopped set of Kings ran into a full house which took 1/3 of my stack, then later on I made a play with AJ and villian hit quad 6's. After that I was so short stacked I didn't last long.


Rock Star
You played that fine. That dude should have been betting that set though. Jeez, slowplaying sets is never a great idea, especially when you're relatively shortstacked.
Jack Daniels

Jack Daniels

Charcoal Mellowed
Absolutely right that he misplayed that set. I am seeing more and more that people are trying to slow play bigger hands. They fail to realize that it is almost always correct (and better) to bet your big hands. And yes I do realize that you can't play every hand the same way or people will get a read on you. You do have to change up your game, but there are lots of ways to do that without donking it up at the same time.

By betting your big hands in most cases, you get some good benegits. First and foremost in my mind is that you will see fewer bad beats as you will have fewer junk hand chasers. It will still happen, but not as much. Second, big hands will still play (and some big draws), but that can be dealt with with on later streets (especially, easy if you have the nuts :D ).

Note to self: Slow playing big hands...another possible topic for my 1000th post milestone. ;)

BTW, Effexor, nice job on putting the beat to the slow player.


It makes no sense to slowplay here; if you have a draw, you're only putting money in if 1) you are drawing, or 2) you have hit your draw. He let you draw out for free, and then incorrectly got his money in after you hit it....strange :/

Just another shining example as to why giving free cards is a cardinal sin in poker.