Quads at the river and first to act

shinedown.45

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What is the proper play for this:

pokerstars Game #7940448282: Tournament #39825270, $0.50+$0.00 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/01/14 - 20:30:29 (ET)
Table '39825270 119' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Kohi (2340 in chips)
Seat 2: MKE Hammer (1375 in chips)
Seat 3: Scrouge66 (4200 in chips)
Seat 4: Stickyweasel (2535 in chips)
Seat 5: pooky11 (690 in chips)
Seat 6: samson2006 (4680 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: Chuck875 (1170 in chips)
Seat 8: Orion469 (3570 in chips)
Seat 9: hafadeck (1990 in chips)
Chuck875: posts small blind 25
Orion469: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Orion469 [7h 7d]
hafadeck: calls 50
Kohi: folds
MKE Hammer: folds
Scrouge66: folds
Stickyweasel: calls 50
pooky11: calls 50
samson2006: folds
Chuck875: calls 25
Orion469: raises 50 to 100
hafadeck: calls 50
Stickyweasel: calls 50
pooky11: calls 50
Chuck875: calls 50
*** FLOP *** [Jc 8h Qs]
Chuck875: checks
Orion469: checks
hafadeck: bets 50
Stickyweasel: calls 50
pooky11: calls 50
Chuck875: calls 50
Orion469: calls 50
*** TURN *** [Jc 8h Qs] [7s]
Chuck875: checks
Orion469: bets 200
hafadeck: folds
Stickyweasel: calls 200
pooky11: calls 200
Chuck875: folds
*** RIVER *** [Jc 8h Qs 7s] [7c]
Orion469: bets 250
Stickyweasel: calls 250
pooky11: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Orion469: shows [7h 7d] (four of a kind, Sevens)
Stickyweasel: mucks hand
Orion469 collected 1850 from pot
 
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the proper play is what ever puts the most money in your pocket. looks like it was played pretty good to me. If you bet more do you think Stickyweasel would have called it still? Maybe you could have gone all in and Stickyweasel would have still called. Maybe Stickyweasel had a boat with pocket pair that paired the board? What was his table image at that point and what was your table image at that point. I think that would have alot to do with it too.
 
shinedown.45

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the proper play is what ever puts the most money in your pocket. looks like it was played pretty good to me. If you bet more do you think Stickyweasel would have called it still? Maybe you could have gone all in and Stickyweasel would have still called. Maybe Stickyweasel had a boat with pocket pair that paired the board? What was his table image at that point and what was your table image at that point. I think that would have alot to do with it too.
at the time of the hand I had no read.
I didn't want to chase him away with too high of a raise just want to know if you had no reads on the player what would have you bet to maximize you winnings.
 
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Without a read, that seems like a good value bet.
 
blankoblanco

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A little small for my liking, but certainly not bad. If he was drawing and missed, he's unlikely to even call as low as 250 (unless reads say otherwise), so I don't think betting a little more hurts there. Since a hand played this way that would call 250 tends to have at least a pair of queens, I would think that having gone this far, he'd call something like 400 (less than 1/3 the pot... still a small bet). Plus there are rare times when betting too small might actually make it harder to get a call, because it's so suspiciously tiny that it begs to be called and may suggest a big hand. Anyway, I'm just being nitpicky. Very nice hand.

I don't think I like a push here even at limits this low (barring reads). Even here, I think most hands that call a push are going to raise you on the river anyway (trip 7s, slowplayed straight, full house), in which case you get it in regardless. *shrug* Perhaps I overestimate.
 
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any queen never folds here at these stakes
 
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