QQ on Button late in MTT Facing All In

burton_boy

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Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1500/3000) - 2008/02/25 - 22:58:26 (ET)
Table '78447020 176' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: rezmi20 (50478 in chips)
Seat 2: Packers34 (92447 in chips)
Seat 3: smallsts@ck (48873 in chips)
Seat 4: des12847 (98720 in chips)
Seat 5: fatsergio (138835 in chips)
Seat 6: ~][U$TLER~1 (108802 in chips)
Seat 8: Hate_Burton (106145 in chips)
Seat 9: Cookie_Doh52 (24274 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
rezmi20: posts the ante 300
Packers34: posts the ante 300
smallsts@ck: posts the ante 300
des12847: posts the ante 300
fatsergio: posts the ante 300
~][U$TLER~1: posts the ante 300
Hate_Burton: posts the ante 300
rezmi20: posts small blind 1500
Packers34: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hate_Burton [Qh Qs]
smallsts@ck: raises 45573 to 48573 and is all-in
des12847: folds
fatsergio: folds
~][U$TLER~1: folds
Hate_Burton: ????

Average stack is around 80,000 table has been loose as of late, but I only sat in for a few hands maybe 9 or 10 as I was just moved to this table. Two all in preflop so far and the best hand was AQ, also KQ and J10 were shown. So it's call or raise at this point but why one over the other? BTW there are only ~50 left out of 2800 so we are already ITM.
 
SeanyJ

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I probably shove to scare anyone else off, he is a shortstack and you are way ahead of his range. It's kind of scary that there is so many to act behind you but I they will need aces or kings to call your all in and if they have them that's just unlucky.
 
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His M is 6 so he probably has an above average hand, you're M is over 10 so you still have a lot of time, you could fold here and be fine since you're not under as much pressure from the blinds. I don't think AA or KK would bet like this so you're probably ahead I think you should call.
 
CrackaNACtion

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i think hes bluffin to steal the blinds this late! id call!
 
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No need to shove here really, just calling his all in shows great strength. The point of an isolation raise is to get the pot heads up and discourage others from playing with good pot odds, that's not the case here since the original raiser's bet was so large. But shoving is fine also since if we did smooth call and someone else behind us goes all in we will call, so it doesn't matter much.
 
SeanyJ

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Just calling shows much less strength than shoving. It's either a shove or fold here, no calling. If you just call and someone moves in behind you you would seriously have to consider folding.
 
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Results

Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1500/3000) - 2008/02/25 - 22:58:26 (ET)
Table '78447020 176' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: rezmi20 (50478 in chips)
Seat 2: Packers34 (92447 in chips)
Seat 3: smallsts@ck (48873 in chips)
Seat 4: des12847 (98720 in chips)
Seat 5: fatsergio (138835 in chips)
Seat 6: ~][U$TLER~1 (108802 in chips)
Seat 8: Hate_Burton (106145 in chips)
Seat 9: Cookie_Doh52 (24274 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
rezmi20: posts the ante 300
Packers34: posts the ante 300
smallsts@ck: posts the ante 300
des12847: posts the ante 300
fatsergio: posts the ante 300
~][U$TLER~1: posts the ante 300
Hate_Burton: posts the ante 300
rezmi20: posts small blind 1500
Packers34: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hate_Burton [Qh Qs]
smallsts@ck: raises 45573 to 48573 and is all-in
des12847: folds
fatsergio: folds
~][U$TLER~1: folds
Hate_Burton: raises 57272 to 105845 and is all-in
rezmi20: folds
Packers34: calls 89147 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [2d Th 7s]
*** TURN *** [2d Th 7s] J♣
*** RIVER *** [2d Th 7s Jc] 3♠
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Packers34: shows [Ah As] (a pair of Aces)
Hate_Burton: shows [Qh Qs] (a pair of Queens)
Packers34 collected 87148 from side pot
smallsts@ck: shows [9s 9d] (a pair of Nines)
Packers34 collected 149319 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 236467 Main pot 149319. Side pot 87148. | Rake 0
Board [2d Th 7s Jc 3s]
Seat 1: rezmi20 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Packers34 (big blind) showed [Ah As] and won (236467) with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: smallsts@ck showed [9s 9d] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 4: des12847 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: fatsergio folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ~][U$TLER~1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Hate_Burton (button) showed [Qh Qs] and lost with a pair of Queens
So I feel like I still made the right move, with only the blinds left to act after me I figured might as well try to push them out putting the UTG player on a mid pair like they ended up having. It seems as though this was just bad luck, the right hand at the wrong time I guess, I just wanted to see if others would have played it the same way. Thanks for the input.
 
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insta shove all-in and hope he isnt on KK or AA...
 
Tigersmith

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you did make the right move, unlucky that someone had AA out of position on the BB.
 
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Even having seen the results, you have to shove here and hope AA or KK isn't behind.

Anything else is playing too scared.
 
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