$ NL HE MTT: What makes a person play like that?

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I know there are very loose players (Geniuses) here on Cardschat, but this one outdid himself.
I believe his magic lamp gave him the wrong information.🤔🤪😁🤣
That hand took place this afternoon in the $100 freeroll on pokerstars.

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - 15/30 (3 ante) - 8 players
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UTG: 1,918 (64 bb)
UTG+1: 3,895 (130 bb)
MP: 1,943 (65 bb)
MP+1: 3,898 (130 bb)
CO: 2,018 (67 bb)
BU: 1,853 (62 bb)
SB (Hero): 2,304 (77 bb)
BB: 6,193 (206 bb)


Pre-Flop:
(69) Hero is SB with J 9
6 players fold, Hero calls 15, BB checks

Flop: (84) 8 J J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets 30, Hero raises to 98, BB raises to 166, Hero raises to 570, BB raises to 974, Hero raises to 2,271 (all-in), BB calls 1,297

Turn: (4,626) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (4,626) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 4,626

Showdown:
SB (Hero) shows J 9 (a full house, Jacks full of Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 47%, Flop: >99%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

BB shows Q 6 (a pair of Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 53%, Flop: <1%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

SB (Hero) wins 4,626
 
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Hmmm.... Interesting hand to say the least. :D

I think some people think they can bluff you out of every hand but not when you have the quasi-nuts. :ROFLMAO:

But I have no clue why he called your jam - can't bluff in all-in anymore.

Maybe he thought you were bluffing your stack away? :ROFLMAO:
 
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Lol I think he was waiting for a miracle playing the role of God thinking that by some miracle he would find the 9 and the T to make his sequence since he had more chips he believed he could miraculously win the hand. Even so you would find a fullHouse since you had 9 as well. Anyway.... I can't find any logical explanation for this but there are several hands without explanation of why calling a practically lost hand. One way for him to win there would be Q on the turn and another Q on the river.
 
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I can't find any logical explanation for this but there are several hands without explanation of why calling a practically lost hand.
In fact in Cardschat freerolls there is no logic for certain players, they simply want to kick you out of the pot.
 
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In fact in Cardschat freerolls there is no logic for certain players, they simply want to kick you out of the pot.
A situation happened to me a while ago where a CC player that I prefer not to name also gave me an even more dubious call than your game.
$300 from 888 left only 15 players and we were both chip leaders. He was slightly the CL of the game.
I had an A8s in the BB and made a standard 2x bet due to the size of the blinds and he called. Flop 2QQ ofsuted. I also checked him on the turn another Q I checked him on the river also another Q ie four of a kind Q on the board so as I had an Ace I had the nuts ... In the worst case scenario it was going to tie so I went allinn and got called .. ...call with T5o......no explanation.....as much as he thought I was bluffing what sense did it make to call with T5o....end result he fell right after and I ended up in first place in the tournament.

I spoke with him a few times and I'm in touch but he never commented on the hand and I never asked because it was so weird.
 
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Stabbing the flop when checked to is pretty standard. The click-back 3-bet and then again 5-bet is more unusual, but I guess, his thought process might be, that you probably dont have trips, and he can represent it and make you fold. However when you 6-bet jam, calling it off with Q high and no draw is pretty optimistic to say the least. But its a freeroll, and some people just dont care, when they cant lose their own money. Or maybe he was on tilt, since he threw a donkey at you :)
 
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The truth is that there are players who don't value playing the Freerolls, they only play to have fun for a while and nothing more and I imagine how the other teammates think, they just thought you were bluffing, but already when there is a 5bet Wow. Surely in your range is J.

My opinion is that there are those who take freerolls seriously and others who are simply in for a lottery and don't really know how to play.
 
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I know there are very loose players (Geniuses) here on Cardschat, but this one outdid himself.
I believe his magic lamp gave him the wrong information.🤔🤪😁🤣
That hand took place this afternoon in the $100 freeroll on Pokerstars.

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - 15/30 (3 ante) - 8 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG: 1,918 (64 bb)
UTG+1: 3,895 (130 bb)
MP: 1,943 (65 bb)
MP+1: 3,898 (130 bb)
CO: 2,018 (67 bb)
BU: 1,853 (62 bb)
SB (Hero): 2,304 (77 bb)
BB: 6,193 (206 bb)


Pre-Flop:
(69) Hero is SB with J 9
6 players fold, Hero calls 15, BB checks

Flop: (84) 8 J J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets 30, Hero raises to 98, BB raises to 166, Hero raises to 570, BB raises to 974, Hero raises to 2,271 (all-in), BB calls 1,297

Turn: (4,626) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (4,626) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 4,626

Showdown:
SB (Hero) shows J 9 (a full house, Jacks full of Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 47%, Flop: >99%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

BB shows Q 6 (a pair of Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 53%, Flop: <1%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

SB (Hero) wins 4,626
Why did we think that we had the best hand on the flop vs these actions by the Villain?
This V was very weak as per the call-
How might you play this hand vs a standard player who would not play this way?
What about a skilled player?
Would you still polarize your hand by check raising large sizing on a static board? Would that not normally get standard players to not play for stacks? Is that the best max value strategy vs V range based on these actions?
A skilled player might suspect you have bluffs on this board but would a skilled player click back vs a bluff?
When the BB min raises back and has skill would you then still 4 bet 3.5x? What are you value targeting? What is the skilled player repping?
When they 5 bet min again is your shove the highest ROI play vs bluffs and value?
 
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