$ NL HE MTT: I played this hand very badly.

[Gritz18]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Freeroll

1. Freeroll

Currency

$

I have to learn to fold certain hands, when villain calls my cbet after the flop, I should have stopped the action.
My problem is always thinking that the villain is trying to steal the pot, because it is a freeroll.

pokerstars, Hold'em No Limit - 15/30 (3 ante) - 9 players
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UTG: 3,763 (125 bb)
UTG+1: 2,334 (78 bb)
MP: 1,360 (45 bb)
MP+1: 995 (33 bb)
LP (Hero): 3,864 (129 bb)
CO: 469 (16 bb)
BU: 5,270 (176 bb)
SB: 1,762 (59 bb)
BB: 153 (5 bb)

Pre-Flop: (72) Hero is LP with J♠ A♥
UTG raises to 75, 1 fold, MP calls 75, 1 fold, Hero calls 75, 1 fold, BTN calls 75, 2 players fold

Flop: (372) 4♥ 6♣ J♦ (4 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets 361, BTN calls 361, 2 players fold

Turn: (1,094) 3♦ (2 players)
Hero bets 1,061, BTN calls 1,061

River: (3,216) Q♥ (2 players)
Hero bets 2,364 (all-in), BTN calls 2,364

Total pot: 7,944

Showdown:
LP (Hero) shows J♠ A♥ (a pair of Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 64%, Flop: 25%, Turn: 18%, River: 0%)

BU shows 6♠ 4♦ (two pair, Sixes and Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 36%, Flop: 75%, Turn: 82%, River: 100%)

BU wins 7,944

 

[spunka]

Yep, you should raise preflop to 200-250 always be carefull if limpers call or raise on low flop after a cont. bet
especially as here where hero overbets !

 

[eetenor]

I have to learn to fold certain hands, when villain calls my cbet after the flop, I should have stopped the action.
My problem is always thinking that the villain is trying to steal the pot, because it is a freeroll.

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - 15/30 (3 ante) - 9 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG: 3,763 (125 bb)
UTG+1: 2,334 (78 bb)
MP: 1,360 (45 bb)
MP+1: 995 (33 bb)
LP (Hero): 3,864 (129 bb)
CO: 469 (16 bb)
BU: 5,270 (176 bb)
SB: 1,762 (59 bb)
BB: 153 (5 bb)

Pre-Flop: (72) Hero is LP with J♠ A♥
UTG raises to 75, 1 fold, MP calls 75, 1 fold, Hero calls 75, 1 fold, BTN calls 75, 2 players fold

Flop: (372) 4♥ 6♣ J♦ (4 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets 361, BTN calls 361, 2 players fold

Turn: (1,094) 3♦ (2 players)
Hero bets 1,061, BTN calls 1,061

River: (3,216) Q♥ (2 players)
Hero bets 2,364 (all-in), BTN calls 2,364

Total pot: 7,944

Showdown:
LP (Hero) shows J♠ A♥ (a pair of Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 64%, Flop: 25%, Turn: 18%, River: 0%)

BU shows 6♠ 4♦ (two pair, Sixes and Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 36%, Flop: 75%, Turn: 82%, River: 100%)

BU wins 7,944

I watch each street then comment if necessary- preflop is fine vs UTG open- unless UTG is very loose and will open then fold-
Flop we are 4 way so betting is fine but we went too large- multiway we have extra fold equity so most common bet is 33% with our entire betting range but we are checking most often with say 77 88 A6 etc
Turn pot bet again too large we are condensing calls to better hands and high equity draws
River jam called by only better most often as it was

In multiway pots our bets are weighted to top of range two pairs+ and bluffs- Vs standard V we exploit check fold rivers more than bluff-
Most players think we are weighted to heavy value that is why the V may have just called and never raised.

Using smaller sizes and recognizing relative strength- in multiway pots is your study point

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
I actually think, the best play against an UTG open is to just fold AJo. The hand offer a lot of reverse implied odds against a tight range, and there are 4 players behind, who can squeeze. That being said this is a freeroll, and maybe MP is really bad and loose, which can definitely make this play ok. But you just need to be carefull about, how much you put in postflop with top pair, especially if UTG continue in the hand, since he is the player most likely to have AK, AQ, QQ, KK or AA.

Flop
Very happy that it checks to you, because now you are almost certainly ahead of UTG and MP. I would also bet for value and to thin the field, but your sizing is way to big. In GTO play you are supposed to bet small on dry flops and also in multiway pots, and this is both a very dry flop and a very multiway pot. The reason for betting smaller is to keep their range wider, so you dont end up in a situation, where you condensed their range so much, that you are usually beat, when they still hang on.

Turn
One of the draws actually got there, but I would also continue betting for value. However once again your bet is way to big. You are setting it up for a river jam, and that is a massive overplay with just one pair in a multiway pot, where the SPR was a very deep 10.

River
Now came one of those cards, you did not want to see. Its not all that likely, the Q helped him, but one of the few hands, you could potentially still have gotten value from, if he is really bad, was QJ, and that now beat you. You have kind of painted yourself into a corner with your far to large bet sizes, and as played I think, the best river line is to check and evaluate. Sometimes he check back and you win against a hand like KJ. And if he bet, you just need to make a decision, which is most likely going to be to fold, if he jam, and maybe call, if he bet something very small.

Conclusion
This hand is not so much about learning to fold, but more about learning proper bet sizing.

 

[roger perkins]

Yep, you should raise preflop to 200-250 always be carefull if limpers call or raise on low flop after a cont. bet
especially as here where hero overbets !

Totally agree here. A preflop reraise would probably knocked out the BU and maybe one of the others to make it heads up. Your goal is to get in with the best hand and limit the field. You also need to see where you are and if you are facing AK from the UTG he probably 3 bets you preflop, seeing that this is a freeroll AK probably shoves then which I believe is not a good play but it often is what players do with AK preflop.

 

[eetenor]

Yep, you should raise preflop to 200-250 always be carefull if limpers call or raise on low flop after a cont. bet
especially as here where hero overbets !

This is not an always raise spot---if all limped then yes raise but UTG raise changes our actions