$ NL HE MTT: 888Poker $100 Freeroll; Wednesday, October 5th at 3pm, I played this hand badly.

[Gritz18]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Freeroll

1. Freeroll

Currency

$

In this hand I played very badly, and I was sure I was losing post-flop, but even so I went all-in over 40bb, thinking that villain might be stealing.
But as incredible as it may seem, when I checked after the flop, and villain made a bet of 15bb, it could only be value, I believe that if he didn't have anything he would try to steal the pot by making a bigger bet, or checking until the end tried to improve his hand.
I hope he sees this post and leaves his report, so we know what he thought at the time.
But I definitely played badly, we never want to accept that our hand is losing, let it serve as a lesson.

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - 15/30 (3 ante) - 9 players
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dim88profi (UTG): 1,985 (66 bb)
Nik_C (UTG+1): 2,057 (69 bb)
gravii2011 (MP): 1,880 (63 bb)
Antonik555 (MP+1): 1,775 (59 bb)
Gritz18 (LP): 1,940 (65 bb)
boganflash (CO): 2,411 (80 bb)
LenaDelM (BU): 1,940 (65 bb)
Runnutz (SB): 1,955 (65 bb)
FredericoSL (BB): 2,057 (69 bb)

Pre-Flop: (72) Hero (Gritz18) is LP with K♥ K♦
1 fold, Nik_C (UTG+1) raises to 150, 2 players fold, Gritz18 (LP) 3-bets to 450, 4 players fold, Nik_C (UTG+1) calls 300

Flop: (972) A♠ 8♣ 9♠ (2 players)
Nik_C (UTG+1) checks, Gritz18 (LP) checks

Turn: (972) T♥ (2 players)
Nik_C (UTG+1) bets 450, Gritz18 (LP) raises to 1,487 (all-in), Nik_C (UTG+1) calls 1,037

River: (3,946) 3♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 3,946

Showdown:
Gritz18 (LP) shows K♥ K♦ (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 68%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

Nik_C (UTG+1) shows Q♣ A♣ (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 32%, Flop: 92%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

Nik_C (UTG+1) wins 3,946

 

[Andyreas]

Aw those Kings, so vulnerable to that Ace.

Indeed you did not play it very well. Turn still has the Ace, additionally makes a lot of straights possible and still a possibility for a flush, so shove is definitely not an +EV decision here.

What I usually do with a PP is bet the flop, even if there's an overcard and if I get a fold, great. If I get a call, we can usually assume that there was a hit. In case there's future betting, one often has to fold the PP, even the kings.

Next time you'll know better.

 

[Gritz18]

Aw those Kings, so vulnerable to that Ace.

Indeed you did not play it very well. Turn still has the Ace, additionally makes a lot of straights possible and still a possibility for a flush, so shove is definitely not an +EV decision here.

What I usually do with a PP is bet the flop, even if there's an overcard and if I get a fold, great. If I get a call, we can usually assume that there was a hit. In case there's future betting, one often has to fold the PP, even the kings.

Next time you'll know better.

I swear to you that at the time I didn't see the villain's cards, I knew he had something strong like an AK, AJ, AQ, or even high pairs because he came out with a 5bb reise, it's okay that it's the beginning of a tournament and usually the people raise higher trying to protect their hand or to not bring too many people into the pot.
My hope is that he could be doing it with QQ or JJ, but I fell off my horse.

 

[eetenor]

Aw those Kings, so vulnerable to that Ace.

Indeed you did not play it very well. Turn still has the Ace, additionally makes a lot of straights possible and still a possibility for a flush, so shove is definitely not an +EV decision here.

What I usually do with a PP is bet the flop, even if there's an overcard and if I get a fold, great. If I get a call, we can usually assume that there was a hit. In case there's future betting, one often has to fold the PP, even the kings.

Next time you'll know better.

Watching replayer one step at a time -
UTG1 opens 5x 70bb ish deep why? Is this AA build a pot or 77 scared to play? This is our first thoughts- We have KK-HJ- only AA is a ahead of us and standard players bet this sizing to get folds so we raise---the question is how much? We want to be called but we do not want to go multiway- How many of the players that open 5 x ever fold to a raise? Standard raise here is 2.5x the opn will that get you heads-up?
If not we go larger expecting UTG 1 to call to hit and we are playing for stacks--unless utg is a nit and shoves only AA
what happens next lets see---your raise fine- player calls
Flop is nasty=take the time now to think about range of utg here-use equilab to build a range and then think about board interaction--
So do we bet or check? Thinking about the 5x open is that size Ax heavy most often? Will your V fold AX for stacks?
If the V opened pairs here do we need to bet? So most pairs fold if we bet draws stay AX stays 88 99 is very possible.
Check flop seems high freq here we do not have the Ks so we check more often as well.
Turn V leads 450 if we call are we playing for stacks? What value hand that we are ahead of leads there?
Do your Villains have 2 street bluffs on the river OOP?
UTG can have AX can have all the sets- will they have KT QT would they lead 77 here JJ?
Do they check river with missed hands?
You shove over the lead- Why? Are we turning KK into a bluff? Take the time to build a range of hands we get value from vs hands we are behind and hands that we get to fold and hands that call that have lots of equity-this is how we know this shove is not the best play here-
The V calls As expected the V had an AX hand that is why the 5x opn -

If you build Villain ranges each street for this hand as practice it will help when u r playing

 

[Gritz18]

You shove over the lead- Why? Are we turning KK into a bluff? Take the time to build a range of hands we get value from vs hands we are behind and hands that we get to fold and hands that call that have lots of equity-this is how we know this shove is not the best play here-
The V calls As expected the V had an AX hand that is why the 5x opn -

You're right my all-in was bad, worse than I was pretty sure he had AX, and I still made this mistake.

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
As others have said, the opponents 5BB open sizing is very large. But we have KK, so a 3-bet is still totally fine and valid, and if he jam or 4-bet in some way, we are happy to stack off with the cowboys.

Flop
A high flops always suck, when we have KK, and even more so in 3-bet pots, where our opponents will typically be more AX heavy. I agree with checking back for pot control and deception.

Turn
Usually the intention is to call a turn bet, when we checked back flop, and then evaluate river. In this case most likely fold, if he bet again, and check behind, if he dont. But in this particular spot with a bloated pot from preflop action and so little left behind, I could get on board with making an exploitative fold. Do we think, he is betting hands like QQ or JJ for value? Probably not. So mostly we are hoping, he is bluffing, and what is he bluffing with? Like KQ or KJ of spades? Even those hands have a decent chunk of equity. And most likely the reality of this situation is, that his range contain a lot of AX, which you are almost dead again.

Results
So he did in fact have it, and going back to his preflop sizing, its not surpricing to see him show up with a hand like AQs. A 5BB open raise is usually indicative of a strong opening range, unless it is coming from a complete maniac. The hand is an illustration of the importance of avoiding, whats called entitlement tilt. Whenever the board run out in a way, which is very bad for your hand, you just need to accept, what happened, and adjust accordingly. Try to think about relative hand strength next time rather than your actual hand. In this case "I have a pocket pair below top pair on a A high board in a 3-bet pot". Rather than "I have pocket kings, and I deserve to win this hand."

 

[Gritz18]

Preflop
As others have said, the opponents 5BB open sizing is very large. But we have KK, so a 3-bet is still totally fine and valid, and if he jam or 4-bet in some way, we are happy to stack off with the cowboys.

Flop
A high flops always suck, when we have KK, and even more so in 3-bet pots, where our opponents will typically be more AX heavy. I agree with checking back for pot control and deception.

Turn
Usually the intention is to call a turn bet, when we checked back flop, and then evaluate river. In this case most likely fold, if he bet again, and check behind, if he dont. But in this particular spot with a bloated pot from preflop action and so little left behind, I could get on board with making an exploitative fold. Do we think, he is betting hands like QQ or JJ for value? Probably not. So mostly we are hoping, he is bluffing, and what is he bluffing with? Like KQ or KJ of spades? Even those hands have a decent chunk of equity. And most likely the reality of this situation is, that his range contain a lot of AX, which you are almost dead again.

Results
So he did in fact have it, and going back to his preflop sizing, its not surpricing to see him show up with a hand like AQs. A 5BB open raise is usually indicative of a strong opening range, unless it is coming from a complete maniac. The hand is an illustration of the importance of avoiding, whats called entitlement tilt. Whenever the board run out in a way, which is very bad for your hand, you just need to accept, what happened, and adjust accordingly. Try to think about relative hand strength next time rather than your actual hand. In this case "I have a pocket pair below top pair on a A high board in a 3-bet pot". Rather than "I have pocket kings, and I deserve to win this hand."

It's true I had to have accepted that I was losing the hand, and folded when I checked and he bet the tuner, I was sure his bet was for value and even then I went all-in like a dumbass.

 

[monkeytilter]

Yes you earned your button clicker badge on this one

Think what your bets are trying to achieve.
Ask these questions EVERYTIME before you bet..
Am I trying to get value from worse hands? what can call me?
Am I bluffing? what do you expect to fold?

Always think first then click and good luck in the freerolls.

 

[jonaselloco]

I think Cesar that if the UTG opens with 5 bet and you have the 2nd highest rank in hand, it means that until your 3 bet re-raise you can consider that he only pays, since AA is difficult for him to have, although he would surely have a minimum of AK or AQ, I wouldn't even put QQ in range of him.
When the Ace came out on the flop he checked and you did well to check, it is a play that is made quite often in this condition.
On the turn he bets, I tell you what I would have done, I just pay and see what the river brings. Because really considering his rank it was almost impossible that he didn't make top pair.
And really, if I didn't hit the K on the river and the villain bet again, I would have unfortunately folded with what I love those KKs.
Maybe to support your decision to go there, maybe you were confused by his stance of calling only with less than half a pot on the turn, actually having top pair out there was a bit of a scary bet, but it paid off if it is like that
Well Cesar brother, they are plays and you really have to be playing around to feel the adrenaline of the play, out here looking alone it is much easier to give an opinion.
Greetings and better luck for the next one. Carlos

 

[makisaa]

Your betting and play was for another hand, for example if you had AK OR AA or a three of a kind! From the moment you see the ace on board, you leave the risky betting and go for another hand! Or the straight draw at the turn!