Nice pot for the other guy

Alon Ipser

Alon Ipser

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50 some of us left out of 1770 players. Everyone at the table plays pretty solid. Littlefoot had just lost a pretty good pot and I thought may have been tilting. Thought I would push out Liltoastie with my all in. Would of been nice to win this one, I would have been sitting in 6th.

pokerstars Game #4816455750: Tournament #23911799, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (1500/3000) - 2006/05/02 - 22:41:20 (ET)
Table '23911799 40' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: STGFlap2142 (60581 in chips)
Seat 2: Alon Ipser (34014 in chips)
Seat 3: LilToastie (44768 in chips)
Seat 4: eagleskearse (55112 in chips)
Seat 5: 3.l4l592635 (54135 in chips)
Seat 6: BangorRog (17571 in chips)
Seat 7: Mr. Goobers (25138 in chips)
Seat 8: kangol197 (70724 in chips)
Seat 9: littlefoot66 (25066 in chips)
STGFlap2142: posts the ante 150
Alon Ipser: posts the ante 150
LilToastie: posts the ante 150
eagleskearse: posts the ante 150
3.l4l592635: posts the ante 150
BangorRog: posts the ante 150
Mr. Goobers: posts the ante 150
kangol197: posts the ante 150
littlefoot66: posts the ante 150
3.l4l592635: posts small blind 1500
BangorRog: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Alon Ipser [As Ac]
Mr. Goobers: folds
kangol197: folds
littlefoot66: calls 3000
STGFlap2142: folds
Alon Ipser: raises 3000 to 6000
LilToastie: calls 6000
eagleskearse: folds
3.l4l592635: folds
BangorRog: folds
littlefoot66: calls 3000
*** FLOP *** [Td Kd Jd]
littlefoot66: bets 18916 and is all-in
Alon Ipser: raises 8948 to 27864 and is all-in
LilToastie: calls 27864
*** TURN *** [Td Kd Jd] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [Td Kd Jd Th] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Alon Ipser: shows [As Ac] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
LilToastie: shows [Tc Kc] (a full house, Tens full of Kings)
LilToastie collected 17896 from side pot
littlefoot66: shows [Jh Qh] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
eagleskearse said, "vvn"
LilToastie collected 80598 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 98494 Main pot 80598. Side pot 17896. | Rake 0
Board [Td Kd Jd Th 3d]
Seat 1: STGFlap2142 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Alon Ipser showed [As Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Tens
Seat 3: LilToastie showed [Tc Kc] and won (98494) with a full house, Tens full of Kings
Seat 4: eagleskearse (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: 3.l4l592635 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: BangorRog (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Mr. Goobers folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: kangol197 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: littlefoot66 showed [Jh Qh] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Tens
 
Tammy

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That's a heartbreaker, but I think a larger than minimum raise would have helped to push at least one of them out of the hand (hopefully K/10 boy). But, who knows (after all it was soooted ;))?

You just never know how the cards are going to fall, unfortunately. I do think your read on littlefoot was good. Going all in with Q/Jh after that flop is a bit tiltish in my eyes.
 
ChuckTs

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Sorry AI but i HATE the minraise.
It has no real purpose; i mean you're not going to get anyone out of the hand, and it's not even enough to sweeten up the pot significantly
raise more PF! is my advice :)
also it's just about the most dangerous flop you could get, so the flop play is kind of iffy - this is not the best play.
Basically you made it cheap for opponents to see the flop, and then payed them off once they hit :p
 
KerouacsDog

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15000 is going into that pot PF if I'm holding Aces, and probably the same again on the flop, if theres anyone left. And if there is, then I'm beat!
 
t1riel

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Aside from the obvious fact you should have raised more preflop, I would have folded after the flop. There are three diamonds so it's a real possibility one of the players had a diamond or two. If one of your Aces was a diamond, I probably would have stayed in the hand. Maybe doing that would be too tight and conservative but after flop you must have smelled a possible suckout.
Now that we know what each player had, I think a big raise preflop would have helped. After the flop, there was no way either of them would fold no matter how much you bet or raise. Still, tough draw for you.
 
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KerouacsDog

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t1riel said:
Aside from the obvious fact you should have raised more preflop, I would have folded after the flop. There are three diamonds so it's a real possibility one of the players had a heart or two. If one of your Aces was a heart, I probably would have stayed in the hand. Maybe doing that would be too tight and conservative but after flop you must have smelled a possible suckout.
Now that we know what each player had, I think a big raise preflop would have helped. After the flop, there was no way either of them would fold no matter how much you bet or raise. Still, tough draw for you.

one of the players had a heart? or do you mean diamond?
 
Alon Ipser

Alon Ipser

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Yes, bad play on my part. I was hoping the minimum raise would make them think I was trying to steal the pot.
 
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The Shakuni

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The blinds are 3000 guys, you always want action with Aces, and miniraising is the best way to do it when the blinds are extravagantly high. I can't blame your raise, just a bad flop for you.
 
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