My last hand in 300k sunday on Partypoker, please help me analyze this

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This is the hand that got me eliminated from the 300k sunday on Partypoker. My roommate had just come in for a few minutes and left. I was maybe loosing a bit of my concentration on this hand. Also I had been playing very aggressive, picking my spots quite well, but had just lost quite a substantial amount of chips and then regained a portion them in a few steals and bluffs.

Stacks: - mamba with 27786 - pogima with 7040 - cactysjoe with 31405 - PairOfX with 15725 - easygoes with 10900 - always_bet_twice with 19843 - flintti with 10910 - HERMAN661 with 6140 - pupsik_ua with 16765

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Blinds: 300/600
Site: party poker
* - Dealt to flintti:
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* - Sklansky group 1

Feeling damn good at this point.

Preflop:
* - easygoes calls [600]
* - always_bet_twice calls [600]
* - flintti raises [2,400]

Gotta raise to protect

**- 6 players fold.
* - easygoes calls [1,800]

Not very happy about him calling, but I think this player had been donking out his chips before with not so good hands.


* - 1 players folded.
* - Total folds this street: 7
* - Potsize: 5400
Flop:
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* - easygoes bets [1,800]
**- 1 players fold.
* - flintti raises [4,000]

Now, I figure because his bet is very light that he might be on a quite weak ace (AJ or below) or even on the flush draw.

* - easygoes calls [2,200]
* - Potsize: 11601
Turn:
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* - easygoes checks
* - flintti is all-in [4,510]

I thought this would take the pot down, maybe was still thinking about a similar hand earlier that I should have bluffed at harder.

* - easygoes is all-in [4,500]
* - Potsize: 20611
River:
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* - easygoes shows a pair of Aces:
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Why does it seems so obvious?

* - flintti shows a pair of Jacks:
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* - flintti wins 10 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of Jacks.
* - easygoes wins 23,300 chips from the main pot with a pair of Aces.

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Steveg1976

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as soon as the ace hit you should have been ready to let it go if you meet with much resistance unfortunately.
 
Irexes

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I think this is one of those situations where you have either hold your breath and reraise all in on the flop or fold.

It's a nasty one given stacks and you have to go with whatever read you have on villain.

You'd get maybe more useful feedback if you didn't post the outcome as people can see it from your perspective without knowing what happened.

Unlucky though.

See you at the final table next week :)
 
SeanyJ

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I probably would have just folded on the flop, it leaves you with an M of about 9 I think which obviously isn't great but it still leaves you enough to play with. You just have to think, what is this guy calling your raise with pre flop and leading out on the flop that doesn't have you beat?

On the turn you can't really expect to be getting him off of any ace or a draw since he is getting pretty good odds and if he did fold he would only have an M of 5 which is a terrible spot to be in. Like Rex said you probably should've either folded or shoved the flop because you have pretty much zero fold equity when you shove on the turn.
 
dj11

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He gave you all the resistance you should have needed. You just didn't listen to the story.

There are 3 ways to play JJ, and all of them are wrong..........
 
flint

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He gave you all the resistance you should have needed. You just didn't listen to the story.

There are 3 ways to play JJ, and all of them are wrong..........

Yes, but his story is a bit tricky because he limped in pre-flop and he played it more or less like he would have some sort of pair or maybe even the flush draw. It's very hard to put him on AQ.

If he would have raised and I would have called, I would have easily been able to fold after a bet on the flop.

But you are correct, it would be very hard to play the jacks in this hand as most the options would probably lead to being eliminated.

Overall, I liked my play in the tournament, this is one of only two hands that my play somewhat bothers me. The other one was where I should have fired another bullet, but I ended backing out and showing down a bluff with the deuces.

Its very likely that this player got tricky against me here because of that previous hand, and I should try to work on not showing down bluffs in order to eliminate wierd hands such as this.
 
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see I hate hands like this beacuse if you fold you always hit on the next card and nine out of ten you lose to a bluff
 
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I think this is one of those situations where you have either hold your breath and reraise all in on the flop or fold.

I see how the push or fold mentality would have been very good here. Especially, since villain thought long about calling my raise. If I pushed, it would have shown strength like I have AK, AA or a set. He would be thinking if I would be willing to push my tournament life on anything less and there is a small chance he would fold.

Have to keep that in mind next time.
 
kadafi

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I wouldn't go all in with an ace on the board.
 
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