KQo at SB vs cut-off 4BB raise

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nicoiko

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Woosh it has been a while since i've posted here :)

So steel144 is TAG here and seems to be a good enough player (although saw him call a postflop bet for a good amount of the pot with 2nd pair on the flop but player he have to face with was very loose)

pokerstars Game #10028792914: Tournament #50840812, $36+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2007/05/21 - 08:34:19 (ET)
Table '50840812 1' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Raider0907 (851 in chips)
Seat 2: steel144 (2080 in chips)
Seat 3: nikk23 (1455 in chips)
Seat 4: nicoiko (4614 in chips)
nicoiko: posts small blind 75
Raider0907: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nicoiko [Qh Kc]
steel144: raises 450 to 600
nikk23: folds
nicoiko: calls 525
Raider0907: folds
*** FLOP *** [Td 8d Jc]
nicoiko: checks
steel144: bets 1480 and is all-in
nicoiko: ...

I think play is relatively obvious here but there is a SnG chips situation which could be interesting to discuss.
I also need your opinion as i recently change a bit my shorthanded table play and although it seems to work well i'm sometimes a bit lost about my play.:confused:
Let see if you have the same point of view as me ;)
 
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Shandy

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Personally i fold this, you are chip leader by a fair amount, since you class the player as TAG, i think we can put him on 1010+, AK, AQ, AJs. So i don't think you can class your overs as outs. Also there is a flush draw on the board, so that i think we can only really count 3 As, and 3 9s as definite outs, and the way he has played the hand, he could well be holding a couple of those outs. Seeing as top 2 get paid, i think this is an easy fold, the other two players left are pretty short, and it should be easy to cash with your current stack without taking this risk.
Shandy
 
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ChuckTs

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Getting 1.86:1 on a 2.18 shot. You can't possibly be ahead here; vs his range, you're not getting the odds to call. Fold and use your big stack to chip away at the others.
 
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joeeagles

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It's hard to figure how many real outs you have here, you could have more than the just the straight draw, but its impossilble to know for sure. You say villain is TAG so most likely you're behind, but table is 4-handed and he might have loosened up his PF standards.

I guess you could go either way, calling or folding, with a preference for the latter, but mostly it depends on how confident you are to outplay these players. Calling here and winning this puts you in the driver's seat, you'd have almost 7k and closest would have 1400. On the other hand folding still leaves you with the chip lead.

What bothers me the most is that he raised 4BB with the player in BB being the shortstack. That almost confirms he has a legit hand.

I like the fold better.
 
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