KK utg

[atlantafalcons0]

full tilt poker Cardschat.com $200 Freeroll No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 8 players - View hand 947682
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
SB: t3770 18.85 BBs
BB: t2718 13.59 BBs
Hero (UTG): t3575 17.88 BBs
UTG+1: t4052 20.26 BBs
MP1: t4604 23.02 BBs
MP2: t4405 22.02 BBs
CO: t3490 17.45 BBs
BTN: t6745 33.73 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is UTG with K ♦ K ♠
Hero raises to t550, 5 folds, SB calls t450, 1 fold

Flop: (t1300) J ♣ T ♣ Q ♥ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t1111, SB raises to t2222, Hero raises to t3025 all in, SB calls t803

Turn: (t7350) 5 ♣ (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t7350) 8 ♥ (2 players - 1 is all in)


Is my flop bet too big?

 

[Poker Orifice]

Who was in SB?

Brutal flop (hits a ton of hands) but never folding obv. We're never folding here so I don't think it matters much... I mean it would seem you're cbetting big to protect your hand but with that flop if villain has a big draw they're obviously looking to get it in too.
My answer... it is what it is.

... weird postflop reraise size by villain... why do they leave a bit behind?

 

[WVHillbilly]

Yeah that flop sucks but since you're not looking to bet/fold the flop sizing is fine imo.

 

[atlantafalcons0]

Yeah that flop sucks but since you're not looking to bet/fold the flop sizing is fine imo.

Should I be looking to bet/fold the flop???

 

[WVHillbilly]

No. I don't think so.
Stove says your better than 52% against a range that's likely looking to get it in here, TT,JJ,JT,QJ,QT, KQ,KJ,KT, K9, 89, and a handful of club draws.

 

[Poker Orifice]

"We're never folding here...."

"but since you're not looking to bet/fold the flop"

 

[dj11]

This local group (me myself, and I) are never folding here, and doing just about the same thing you did, getting it all in ASAP.

Preflop I might only min raise, but if you got the memo, you know why. I want to encourage action as most of the time I will be ahead PF and depending on the texture of the flop, usually I will still be ahead.

While you didn't see the king killer (any Ax flop), you sure did flop funky, but most of the time you are still ahead.

The only time I could consider folding KK is if the king killer comes or the flop is fully flushed. Neither happened here... I'm 97.3% full steam ahead......

 

[intiekkeko]

Ugly flop for you

personally I would have raised more preflop but if the villian still called your bet size on the flop would have been fine just an ugly board on a very nice hand for you

how did it all turn out?

inti

 

[Dreams of Tragedy]

i hate flops like this, but yet again, I would of shove all in ptf , to advoid stuff like this......you can either win a small pot , or lose a big pot with big pairs like this

 

[WVHillbilly]

i hate flops like this, but yet again, I would of shove all in ptf , to advoid stuff like this......you can either win a small pot , or lose a big pot with big pairs like this

Wrong in nearly every way imaginable.

 

[atlantafalcons0]

Here is the outcome for anyone interseted.

Full Tilt Poker Cardschat.com $200 Freeroll No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 8 players - View hand 947682
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Knight Rider341 (SB): t3770 18.85 BBs
MDTed (BB): t2718 13.59 BBs
Hero (UTG): t3575 17.88 BBs
1bourbon (UTG+1): t4052 20.26 BBs
tight_is_right1 (MP1): t4604 23.02 BBs
ThunderPT (MP2): t4405 22.02 BBs
buzzsaw4 (CO): t3490 17.45 BBs
IBEWJeff (BTN): t6745 33.73 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is UTG with K ♦ K ♠
Hero raises to t550, 5 folds, Knight Rider341 calls t450, 1 fold

Flop: (t1300) J ♣ T ♣ Q ♥ (2 players)
Knight Rider341 checks, Hero bets t1111, Knight Rider341 raises to t2222, Hero raises to t3025 all in, Knight Rider341 calls t803

Turn: (t7350) 5 ♣ (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t7350) 8 ♥ (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t7350

Knight Rider341 shows A ♣ K ♣ (a flush, Ace high)

Hero shows K ♦ K ♠ (a pair of Kings)

Knight Rider341 wins t7350

 

[dj11]

So u were flop toast, and there really was nothing you could have done preflop to prevent this. Villain will defend with AK.

Blame them martian poker goods.... cause they surely spaced u......

 

[Pothole]

There are more factors to take into account here than what have been expressed. 1/ it was a freeroll, 2/ an UTG raise indicates a strong pre flop hand eg. a big pkt pr or min AK suited. 3/ by stack size it was mid tourney, any SS in late position with connectors or small pkt pr will call or push to minimize risk. 3/ There were three bigger stacks to act after your initial raise, and a call or raise would hve worried me.
You put your head on the block and the chopper came down, a late pos big stack with A rag would prolly call to an all fold table, geez I would call with 2 3 of clubs with that flop, let alone A 10.
1st, anyone in late position is gonna call with AK AQ,

 

[atlantafalcons0]

There are more factors to take into account here than what have been expressed. 1/ it was a freeroll, 2/ an UTG raise indicates a strong pre flop hand eg. a big pkt pr or min AK suited. 3/ by stack size it was mid tourney, any SS in late position with connectors or small pkt pr will call or push to minimize risk. 3/ There were three bigger stacks to act after your initial raise, and a call or raise would hve worried me.
You put your head on the block and the chopper came down, a late pos big stack with A rag would prolly call to an all fold table, geez I would call with 2 3 of clubs with that flop, let alone A 10.
1st, anyone in late position is gonna call with AK AQ,

I think I just got unlucky.

 

[BEERM4N]

Played the hand fine, you just ran into a monster.

 

[mdnmdn]

come on you cant win all the freerolls, lol.

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

With a few less BBs I'd adctually be happy with shoving AIPF seeing as we'd eliminate potential positional issues (not that they arose here given that SB was the only caller) and because hey, it's a freeroll and as such you'll get loose calls with AT/99-type hands incredibly often.

As played is completely standard though and just a cooler. We can't get away from the hand on the flop with such short effective stacks.

 

[baudib1]

FYI SB should never show up with AK here.

nh tho

 

[joe steady]

Ugh, that sucks. I guess the re-raise on the flop would make me think he might have a set (without any stats or notes) or maybe like WVH said KT-KJ/somekindadraw and be trying to push you off, but I don't think I'm folding either. Bad luck, sorry man

 

[Poker Orifice]

FYI SB should never show up with AK here.

nh tho

This ^ exactly (glad you wrote this).
It's REALLY ODD that this player has chosen to just flatcall you here pre (due to stack sizes obv.)....pretty weak (& poor play imo).

Others suggestin to shove pre? or that a huge range of hands 'should' be flatting (in SB???).