Just how badly did I play this hand?

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William Martin

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This hand has been bugging me all day. Just how badly did I play this hand. On reflection, I think I had no business betting at it to start with, but I think maybe it was just error after error after error.

What do you lot think?

full tilt poker Game #3482685515: $20 + $2 Sit & Go (26609569), Table 1 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:10:51 ET - 2007/09/06
Seat 1: Xmen20202 (825)
Seat 3: XBASSX (1,905)
Seat 5: raz0118 (1,100)
Seat 6: Not1stUrLast (4,885)
Seat 7: William Martin (2,055)
Seat 8: SANCHEZ07 (2,730)
Xmen20202 posts the small blind of 60
XBASSX posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to William Martin [6s 5s]
raz0118 folds
Not1stUrLast folds
William Martin calls 120
SANCHEZ07 folds
Xmen20202 calls 60
XBASSX checks
*** FLOP *** [9c 9d 6d]
Xmen20202 checks
XBASSX checks
William Martin bets 360
Xmen20202 folds
XBASSX has 15 seconds left to act
XBASSX calls 360
*** TURN *** [9c 9d 6d] [9h]
XBASSX has 15 seconds left to act
XBASSX checks
William Martin has 15 seconds left to act
William Martin bets 400
XBASSX raises to 1,425, and is all in
William Martin has 15 seconds left to act
William Martin has requested TIME
Not1stUrLast: tough
William Martin: higher pp?
William Martin folds
Uncalled bet of 1,025 returned to XBASSX
XBASSX shows [6h 7s] a full house, Nines full of Sixes
XBASSX wins the pot (1,880)
The blinds are now 80/160
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,880 | Rake 0
Board: [9c 9d 6d 9h]
Seat 1: Xmen20202 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: XBASSX (big blind) collected (1,880)
Seat 5: raz0118 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Not1stUrLast didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: William Martin folded on the Turn
Seat 8: SANCHEZ07 (button) didn't bet (folded)
 
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bw07507

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Either fold or raise preflop, I vote for fold.

Why bet so much on the flop? You bet over the pot. 2/3 pot bet would have been better.
 
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William Martin

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I didn't overbet the pot, there was exactly 360 in the pot and I bet the pot in an attempt to win it there and then.
 
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joeeagles

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I'd raise this PF since you're in the CO, but I don't think limping is a bad idea because the SB is shortstacked and if he shoves to your raise you'd be forced to call because of pot odds and put in 825 in this pot with 65s. Even if you raise 2 1/2 BB's (300), you'd be getting about 2.5 vs a shove, and its coming from a player with a large range, so as long as you're not dominated by a PP, it would be correct to call. Limping is especially good if you think you can outplay them on the flop, you'll have position throughout.

Your flop bet is a bit high, but not too bad in reality. The only thing I would change is your turn bet, because the BB called the 360 on the flop and since you're not on a total bluff because you paired a card and have a FH, it's best to just check behind and then call this down. This for 3 reasons.

1) He'll fold to your bet unless he has a 9, a 6 or a higher PP. If you're ahead the chances of villain outdrawing you on the river aren't good (about 12% with 2 unpaired cards higher than 6), and when he misses, because you checked behind and pot is big, he might bluff with lesser hands to try to get it and you get more chips out of him.

2) If he has us beat on the turn, our bet gives him a green light to shove, where instead if we check behind we will go to showdown because on the river he'll bet a monster for value and not shove. So a showdown costs us about the same amount and we get to see his cards.

3) On a scary board like this, worst hands might shove back and force us to fold.

It's almost never convenient to bet the turn in a spot like this, although admittedly, in some cases, you can find players that will call a bet with A-high on such a board. But I don't think that happens enough to make a turn bet +EV in the long run and it puts us in danger to fold the best hand vs aggressive, tricky players. We're about 85% favored if we're ahead up to this point and checking behind is the play that makes us more chips.
 
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Christianello

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you give too many implied odds with your non-sense first 360 raise!
 
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