Just folded AKo on the bubble today

[722Wade722]

Todays $100 platinum. Bet half my stack to open, good lay down? Lol

 

[Andyreas]

Tough decision.

It's a strange play to me.

Based on the stack sizes, a 3-bet should be a jam.

So either he was doing it as a bluff or to incline you to jam since you cannot call with 50% of your stack.

So maybe indeed a monster like QQ+ or a clever bluff. 🤔

 

[RoviP]

I did the same next to the bubble, I lost on the ITM line.😭

 

[722Wade722]

Tough decision.

It's a strange play to me.

Based on the stack sizes, a 3-bet should be a jam.

So either he was doing it as a bluff or to incline you to jam since you cannot call with 50% of your stack.

So maybe indeed a monster like QQ+ or a clever bluff. 🤔

Yea it was a tough call, they opened half my stack and I was BB. Had I not had my AK cracked yesterday by the most statistical hand 22, I may have jammed lol

 

[nerobs9]

So maybe indeed a monster like QQ+ or a clever bluff. 🤔

For some reason, most often I see a bluff there 😀

 

[Gritz18]

AK for me lately has been a plague, these days ago I received four times AK in the League Tournament and I didn't win any, including the last one I received I left the tournament.
Yesterday in the Cardschat $100 freeroll on pokerstars, I got AK twice and didn't win either.
Last night in the league game I was dealt AK twice, and won none.
And they still say that AK is a monster hand, for me it was literally, only an evil monster.

 

[vardann]

he has the shortest stack at the table, respectively, the range is wider, everyone makes his own decision, I would also do all-in, not call, given that your stack is 3 times larger than his stack

 

[makisaa]

On the bubble, an AKo it is a tough pair of strong cards, even if it is off suite. It was a wise decision and maybe you were saved from a serious damage!

 

[Gallarado777]

hi today I haven't been to the game but this is a very wrong action why did you throw off you need to raise with such a card and get yourself a pot because then you'll go to the final table with a small stack and feel bad with such a strong hand you need to get very bad played

 

[StealTheButton]

Todays $100 platinum. Bet half my stack to open, good lay down? Lol

I'm having a tough time following this. Which player opened- is it the one that has you covered- Rui6? I pretty often see players overplay hands like AQo or KJs. Am I seeing differently than everyone else? I can't see who raised or the bet amount.

 

[fundiver199]

I'm having a tough time following this. Which player opened- is it the one that has you covered- Rui6? I pretty often see players overplay hands like AQo or KJs. Am I seeing differently than everyone else? I can't see who raised or the bet amount.

I cant figure out, what happened here either. Besides the CC freerolls on PokerStars are 9-handed games, and usually something like 36 people make it into the money in the platinum versions. So why are there only 4 players at the table, if this the bubble?

 

[Marshmalo1994]

I don't know how the hand went, but there's some situations in the bubble where practically you have to fold any two, including premium hands like that.
I use to make some silly calls or pushes in the bubble that I regreted later, now I'm trying to take better decisions in that situation and I can say that I really see good results, so, well done.
Do you remember in which position did you finished?

 

[MK_]

I'm not really sure what I'm seeing but it looks like you have 2 players covered 2 to 1 so are you waiting for AA or KK?, are you giving them credit for AA or KK there?, they need to be shoving with a lot of cards there... I'm snapping them off lol!

 

[722Wade722]

I'm having a tough time following this. Which player opened- is it the one that has you covered- Rui6? I pretty often see players overplay hands like AQo or KJs. Am I seeing differently than everyone else? I can't see who raised or the bet amount.

Rui6 yes, I was effective stack, opened for half my stack.

 

[722Wade722]

I cant figure out, what happened here either. Besides the CC freerolls on PokerStars are 9-handed games, and usually something like 36 people make it into the money in the platinum versions. So why are there only 4 players at the table, if this the bubble?

28 players remained, 27 paid, had to crop the pic due to size.

I don't know how the hand went, but there's some situations in the bubble where practically you have to fold any two, including premium hands like that.
I use to make some silly calls or pushes in the bubble that I regreted later, now I'm trying to take better decisions in that situation and I can say that I really see good results, so, well done.
Do you remember in which position did you finished?

I was BB, folded to Rui6 who opened into my for half my stack and I was effective. I needed up in 12th in the end.

 

[dallam]

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Two spots left till bubble burst. I made the right play, so can't do anything else. In addition, wondering how it was working for her to 3bb bet & call this shove when my 4bet range should be unbelievably tight here. But if you see from the right perspective, this was the only way I could play this, and it could be a huge gift to hit my outs and being competitive moving on.

 

[ArmiSoo7]

I would never fold hand like that . Next 10 hands can be worst than you think.

 

[DaMooca]

Regardless of being a bubble, I never fold this hand. And precisely because it's a bubble, villains will only call with very few hands.
The biggest effective stack being 15bb, I shoved this hand.

 

[eetenor]

Todays $100 platinum. Bet half my stack to open, good lay down? Lol

This lay down depends on your goals-min cash or FT- with AK it is never that much of a mistake to go with the hand if we are playing for FT in this spot- Large opens are never 100% AA KK as the sizing indicates some need for protection-

 

[722Wade722]

This lay down depends on your goals-min cash or FT- with AK it is never that much of a mistake to go with the hand if we are playing for FT in this spot- Large opens are never 100% AA KK as the sizing indicates some need for protection-

Thanks, I’m trying to go as deep as possible, main reason I folded was losing to 22 the day before same scenario, but now that time has passed I feel you’re correct, it’s an agressive open but the fact they didn’t fully commit leads me to believe they were open folding if I shoved. This is why I play our free rolls though is to learn thanks for your input, appreciate it!

 

[Kenzie 96]

Glad to read you are thinking high finish rather than mini cash, especially in free rolls where mini cashes are usually very mini. If your notes on villian didn't lead you to believe he was likely only playing AA, KK, you have the chips & quite often people tend to tighten up around the bubble so be aggressive & shove . As far as the 22 hand the day before, may as well base your decision on what you had for breakfast or if the moon is in the 7th house & Jupiter aligns with Mars. Play & observe others reactions take notes & study them instead of reacting to a hand that is long gone.

 

[722Wade722]

Glad to read you are thinking high finish rather than mini cash, especially in free rolls where mini cashes are usually very mini. If your notes on villian didn't lead you to believe he was likely only playing AA, KK, you have the chips & quite often people tend to tighten up around the bubble so be aggressive & shove . As far as the 22 hand the day before, may as well base your decision on what you had for breakfast or if the moon is in the 7th house & Jupiter aligns with Mars. Play & observe others reactions take notes & study them instead of reacting to a hand that is long gone.

Absolutely right, and thanks for your input, this is why I love this forum! The $s are whatever, I make more playing cash tables, but I play these to improve my game and MTT play, so this feed back is great. I always review my tourney games to find improvements, and absolutely leverage CardsChat folk as well

 

[fundiver199]

28 players remained, 27 paid, had to crop the pic due to size.

Ok that makes sense

I was BB, folded to Rui6 who opened into my for half my stack and I was effective. I needed up in 12th in the end.

Then he opened for half the effective stack, which is sometimes referred to as a "non all-in all-in". Meaning that he essentially moved all-in, but for whatever reason he decided to not actually move all-in. But its still the same thing, because he is never folding to a rejam, and he is also never folding preflop, if you just call.

The way to react to a non all-in all-in is to do the exact same, as you would have done against an actual all-in. We do not what go get into some sort of guessing game as to why, he choose to not actually move all-in, because at the end of the day we dont know. Could be a simple misclick, or maybe he was just trying to confuse you.

If this was the bubble of a 9-man SnG, and the stacks were like this, then AK is actually a fold, because min-cashing is very important, and even by winning the tournament you only get 150% more. So in that situation the mid-stack has to be very tight calling off the chipleader. But in an MTT risk aversion is much less, and then AK is a call all day long for 16BB, bubble or not.

Unless of course you had some clear information about the opponent. If you had a HUD running, and it was showing number like VPIP 38 / PFR 4 over 73 hands, and now suddenly this very passive player, who has been doing a lot of limping and calling, commits a big chunk of his stack, then he most likely has a hand like 88-JJ or another AK. And there is no reason to get it in and "flip" with him for your entire stack on the bubble.