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[ChuckTs]

Two parts of this hand I'm curious about. PF and postflop.

pokerstars Game #11577811117: Tournament #57884820, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (100/200) - 2007/08/19 - 17:05:00 (ET)
Table '57884820 144' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Gullbrann (11125 in chips)
Seat 2: jjacky (10275 in chips)
Seat 3: cappman (8225 in chips)
Seat 4: ChuckTs (10575 in chips)
Seat 5: Acoola (7500 in chips)
Seat 6: peco03867 (17600 in chips)
Seat 7: ex_General (10700 in chips)
Seat 8: Ivan777 (13350 in chips)
Seat 9: karloswarlos (7550 in chips)
peco03867: posts small blind 100
ex_General: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Jd Js]
Ivan777: raises 400 to 600
karloswarlos: folds
Gullbrann: folds
jjacky: folds
cappman: folds
ChuckTs: calls 600

a) Too weak here vs a ~30/20/2?

Acoola: folds
peco03867: calls 500
ex_General: folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 4h 5c]
peco03867: checks
Ivan777: checks
ChuckTs: bets 1100
peco03867: raises 1500 to 2600
Ivan777: folds
ChuckTs: folds

b) Another ~30/20/2 here...too many hands popped up that I got scared of. 67, 88, 55, 44, 45...really I'm only beating like TT here right?

peco03867 collected 4200 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4200 | Rake 0
Board [8d 4h 5c]
Seat 1: Gullbrann folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: jjacky folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: cappman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ChuckTs folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Acoola (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: peco03867 (small blind) collected (4200)
Seat 7: ex_General (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Ivan777 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: karloswarlos folded before Flop (didn't bet)

 

[Irexes]

Could reraise pf to 1600ish and find out where you are there (and improve your postlop image), but as played, no problem. 99, TT and complete bluff are all you beat and without a better read you can't put him on that narrow a range.

Good fold.

 

[blankoblanco]

Your sample size of hands wasn't particularly big though, I'm guessing? I think just calling is fine. If you reraise his UTG raise, I can only see you reasonably getting more action from AK/AA-QQ, rarely TT.. not enough of a read to suggest otherwise. Then postflop, the fact that he checkraised instead of leading out seems to weigh it a little more towards a set or AA-ish hands and less towards TT-99 than usual frequencies. TT-99 really don't want to risk that it get checked around, and check-raising with them practically turns them into bluffs. Fold looks good

 

[NineLions]

Your sample size of hands wasn't particularly big though, I'm guessing? I think just calling is fine. If you reraise his UTG raise, I can only see you reasonably getting more action from AK/AA-QQ, rarely TT.. not enough of a read to suggest otherwise. Then postflop, the fact that he checkraised instead of leading out seems to weigh it a little more towards a set or AA-ish hands and less towards TT-99 than usual frequencies. TT-99 really don't want to risk that it get checked around, and check-raising with them practically turns them into bluffs. Fold looks good

I think you're combining UTG with SB, combu, or else I'm misreading what you're saying and you're putting both players on the same range of hands. UTG raises pf, Chuck and SB call, SB checkraises flop, UTG and Chuck fold.


For what it's worth in this company, I'm inclined to repop preflop, as played fold to the checkraise for the reasons you stated. It could be playing back at a possible positional stab at the flop but if so they may have some nice draws.

 

[tenbob]

I think a 3-bet pre-flop is in order. Folding the flop is fine.

 

[blankoblanco]

Oh you're right NL, I got the action wrong. My opinion preflop still stands unaffected. And postflop I still like a fold because of the checkraise, even though the range isn't as narrow as I originally thought. Just makes it look more like a set than a big overpair

I really just don't like 3betting preflop.. we get more money in the pot against hands who crush our range (QQ+, AK), and we let 88-TT fold easily