JJ in the BB; Overcard on flop

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how much (%) of pot do you guys bet with a mid-high pp, overcard on flop, as a feeler?

example:

pokerstars Game #17412439030: Tournament #88262119, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2008/05/13 - 21:13:11 (ET)
Table '88262119 9' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: frankdeer (2765 in chips)
Seat 3: JBlazze (1085 in chips)
Seat 4: foolish999 (2685 in chips)
Seat 5: BrainSlug2.0 (3595 in chips)
Seat 6: SuckaBusta93 (2250 in chips)
Seat 7: liesa16108 (10575 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: un-diluted (4075 in chips)
Seat 9: DeselPower17 (3535 in chips)
liesa16108: posts small blind 25
un-diluted: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to un-diluted [Js Jd]
DeselPower17: folds
frankdeer: calls 50
JBlazze: folds
foolish999: folds
BrainSlug2.0: folds
SuckaBusta93: folds
liesa16108: folds
un-diluted: raises 150 to 200
frankdeer: calls 150
*** FLOP *** [Kd Ts 8c]
un-diluted: bets ?

please give advice on 2 scenario's:
as played preflop

and also with me in early position, and just getting just one call, same flop.

thanks guys & gals
 
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im beting out about 300 here and giving up the pot if called or raised
 
PokerVic

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I'm betting out exactly the same as I would if I hit the flop, so as not to give away anything. Standard continuation bet, which is usually between 50 and 75% of the pot for me.
 
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It would depend on what hand range you're opponent can be limping in/calling a PFR from BB with.

Here, I'd bet out about 300 on the flop because it is very likely that you either A) have the best and and your opponent missed or B) your opponent hit, but you still have the best hand. Bet out to see where you're at and try to take it down.

If you bet out and your opponent calls you can opt to check the turn and maybe get to the river uncontested. If the turn and river is blank, I might call a small bet by my opponent who can easily be betting with an 8, 10, or smaller pair than mine. Also, if you're raised on the flop you can let the hand go if you put your opponent on a better hand.
 
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ghettobaron

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Bet about 50% of the pot, if he calls re-evaluate on the turn or fold if re-raised. Maybe fire a second barrel if a A or J pops off. If any resistance is met, shut it down.

In the second situation, if he checks to me, i'll bet 50-60% of the pot. If he bets, i'll re-raise him and if he calls im done with the hand.
 
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Vic pretty much said it perfectly. Your bet on the flop here should not give away any information, and I generally like about a 75% bet.
 
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As stated previously, I would play the hand the same way as Vic did. 75% of the pot seems like a reasonable amount to not give away to much information.
 
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Fire out a feeler bet of about 1/2 - 2/3 pot. Unless he is a total fish, he will probably fold if he missed.
 
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