JJ, early in SnG

[NineLions]

Just a few hands in, not much in the way of reads other than some bad hands played/called. Earlier I caught top pair with a nine from the BB and it took until the turn bet to shake the callers.


Stacks: - UTG with 890 - UTG+1 with 1335 - UTG+2 with 1550 - UTG+3 with 840 - UTG+4 with 1590 - CO with 2890 - BTN with 1350 - SB with 1705 - BB with 1350

Site: full tilt poker
Holecards:
* - UTG+4 (Hero) is dealt

(Sklansky group 1)
Preflop:
* - UTG calls [40]
* - UTG+3 calls [40]
* - UTG+4 raises to 220
* - CO calls [220]
* - BB calls [180]
* - Folds: 6
* - Potsize: 760
Flop:

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BB checks, my next play?

 

[skoldpadda]

Tough one. Bet about 500 and fold to a raise.

 

[pedroman7]

I think you can make a smallish bet to rep a big hand like AK that you want to get called, about 200 maybe. If you get raised fold and if get called try to check it down.

 

[robwhufc]

Tough one. Bet about 500 and fold to a raise.

too much, that only leaves you with 870 chips. 350 should get the job done if you are going to bet it out.

2 questions - if you had AK instead of JJ what would you do here?

and if you are BB with a pair of 5's, and initial raiser has led out here with 500 bet + CO has folded, what do you do?

 

[NineLions]

2 questions - if you had AK instead of JJ what would you do here?

Exactly my thinking. JJ and AK are interchangeable on the flop for me. That is to say when I have JJ and an A comes on the flop I represent AK, and when I have AK and low cards come I represent JJ. If I get called and we go to the turn it's a different matter.


Bet size is one issue due to the facts that 1) two people limped ahead of me, 2) I bet pot, 3) two callers behind making the pot bloated relative to everyone's stack sizes. On top of which this is a $2 SnG so I can't be sure how many players understand pot odds.

 

[coljung]

Well I play $2 SnGs very often and in this case i would not be surprised if they call whatever bet you make. They could have called your preflop raise with A2 or ANY suited cards, and I mean ANY. Also, if any of them catched an A, they won't be folding that hand. If they don't have an A they'll fold right away.

At this level is difficult to apply common sense logic to some of the plays. I know because that's what my bankroll allows me to play.

 

[NineLions]

Cut and paste seems to work to copy the converted hands.


So, thinking as much in terms of my remaining stack, I bet 240. On the low side, I'm thinking now.

CO minraises. I never know what to make of minraises. This guy, earlier, had minraised the flop with a flush draw.



Stacks: - UTG with 890 - UTG+1 with 1335 - UTG+2 with 1550 - UTG+3 with 840 - UTG+4 with 1590 - CO with 2890 - BTN with 1350 - SB with 1705 - BB with 1350

Site: Full Tilt Poker
Holecards:
- UTG+4 (Hero) is dealt

(Sklansky group 1)
Preflop:
- UTG calls [40]
- UTG+3 calls [40]
- UTG+4 raises to 220
- CO calls [220]
- BB calls [180]
- Folds: 6
- Potsize: 760
Flop:

- BB checks
- UTG+4 bets [240]
- CO raises to 480

 

[robwhufc]

I never know what to make of minraises.

BER_LUFF!

All in.

 

[NineLions]

BER_LUFF!

All in.

Read him for a flush draw again? Or a positional test of whether I have a hand or not?

 

[daxter70]

he has A 4 offsoot....

 

[viking999]

Well, given that you're not a big favorite versus the likely flush draws, I'd lay it down. Actually, I think an all-in would be harder to fold. Could be a flush draw, could be TT-33.

Another strategic option, given that these players are loose, is to check-fold. If you have any idea in your head of folding to a call or a raise, then you're likely throwing your money away versus loose players. You need to pick up something worth going all the way with, and this isn't it. It seems like a weak play, but it's not. I'd call it tight-aggressive. You're just seeing this as a bad time for aggression.