I Need to Learn to Handle these 4-Flush Situations.

[Syfted]

Learning how to handle these 4-Flush situations is going to be an important part of my skill set.

The kind of situation I'm talking about,

Syfted sitting in seat 2 with 875.00
MoneyBRaT sitting in seat 4 with 1145.00[Dealer]
dinker1 sitting in seat 5 with 2830.00
dinker1 posted the small blind - 50.00
Syfted posted the big blind - 100.00

** Dealing cards to Syfted: 5c, 8c
MoneyBRaT called - 100.00
dinker1 called - 100.00
Syfted checked

** Dealing the flop: Ad, 3c, 7c
dinker1 bet - 100.00
Syfted went all-in - 875.00
MoneyBRaT folded
dinker1 called - 875.00
dinker1 shows:

** Dealing the turn: 5h

** Dealing the river: 8s

Was this the correct play?

His bet was strange, only 1/3 the size of the pot. Not an extremely strong bet, but it’s very possible he's holding an Ace, and a possibility for trips as well, though I'd think he'd play that faster, or slow play it- not make a small bet.

My All-in should be received as a sign of strength. If his Ace is weak, he might fold fearing kicker trouble, two pair, or trips. And if HE'S holding those hands, I'm about 33% to win it, right? So the All-in is the correct play?

Now, let's see a different situation:

Syfted sitting in seat 2 with 875.00
MoneyBRaT sitting in seat 4 with 1145.00[Dealer]
dinker1 sitting in seat 5 with 2830.00
dinker1 posted the small blind - 50.00
Syfted posted the big blind - 100.00

** Dealing cards to Syfted: 5c, 8c
MoneyBRaT called - 100.00
dinker1 called - 100.00
Syfted checked

** Dealing the flop: Ad, 3c, 7c
dinker1 checked
Syfted checked
MoneyBRaT checked

Here, I believe the WRONG play would be to check, yes? Though I can try to make my flush for free, everyone limped pre-flop. That check probably means drinker1 missed his hand. A pot-sized bet could steal the pot... and if I'm called, I can still make the flush.

Okay, so, let's say I make that bet, but...

Syfted sitting in seat 2 with 875.00
MoneyBRaT sitting in seat 4 with 1145.00[Dealer]
dinker1 sitting in seat 5 with 2830.00
dinker1 posted the small blind - 50.00
Syfted posted the big blind - 100.00

** Dealing cards to Syfted: 5c, 8c
MoneyBRaT called - 100.00
dinker1 called - 100.00
Syfted checked

** Dealing the flop: Ad, 3c, 7c
dinker1 checked
Syfted bet - 400.00
MoneyBRaT folded
dinker1 went all-in - 2730.00
Syfted ?

Now, drinker1 has not called my bet; he re-raised me all in. As small stack here, I think I shove… but if my stack were of similar size, this would really be extremely difficult. If my stack was of the same size, I probably should fold, yes?

 

[robwhufc]

His bet was strange, only 1/3 the size of the pot. Not an extremely strong bet, but it’s very possible he's holding an Ace, and a possibility for trips as well, though I'd think he'd play that faster, or slow play it- not make a small bet.

My All-in should be received as a sign of strength. If his Ace is weak, he might fold fearing kicker trouble, two pair, or trips. And if HE'S holding those hands, I'm about 33% to win it, right? So the All-in is the correct play?

I think the analysis here is spot on. If he hasn't got the Ace (which bearing in mind no raise pre-flop + 100 bet suggests not) then he is probably folding. If he does, you can hit flush. If you dont, you are out, but you're desperate here anyway.

Now, let's see a different situation:

Syfted sitting in seat 2 with 875.00
MoneyBRaT sitting in seat 4 with 1145.00[Dealer]
dinker1 sitting in seat 5 with 2830.00
dinker1 posted the small blind - 50.00
Syfted posted the big blind - 100.00

** Dealing cards to Syfted: 5c, 8c
MoneyBRaT called - 100.00
dinker1 called - 100.00
Syfted checked

** Dealing the flop: Ad, 3c, 7c
dinker1 checked
Syfted checked
MoneyBRaT checked

Here, I believe the WRONG play would be to check, yes? Though I can try to make my flush for free, everyone limped pre-flop. That check probably means drinker1 missed his hand. A pot-sized bet could steal the pot... and if I'm called, I can still make the flush.

Again, agree. You can check to try and hit the flush, but you're more likely to miss and would then possibly have to call a bet on the turn to see the river. You need the chips more that your opponents, and have still got fold equity, so stick the chips in on the semi-bluff

Okay, so, let's say I make that bet, but...

Syfted sitting in seat 2 with 875.00
MoneyBRaT sitting in seat 4 with 1145.00[Dealer]
dinker1 sitting in seat 5 with 2830.00
dinker1 posted the small blind - 50.00
Syfted posted the big blind - 100.00

** Dealing cards to Syfted: 5c, 8c
MoneyBRaT called - 100.00
dinker1 called - 100.00
Syfted checked

** Dealing the flop: Ad, 3c, 7c
dinker1 checked
Syfted bet - 400.00
MoneyBRaT folded
dinker1 went all-in - 2730.00
Syfted ?

Now, drinker1 has not called my bet; he re-raised me all in. As small stack here, I think I shove… but if my stack were of similar size, this would really be extremely difficult. If my stack was of the same size, I probably should fold, yes?

If it was the same size, yes fold. It isn't, so call.