Did I make a mistake?

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seannn

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My screen name is theacebear and here is the hand:

full tilt poker Game #3808249798: $5 + $0.50 Tournament (28924461), Table 5 - 400/800 Ante 100 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:37:34 ET - 2007/10/09
Seat 1: 35888853 (120)
Seat 2: sleppy7 (22,087)
Seat 3: ReCuddjnu (19,184)
Seat 4: Norin_the_Wary (28,760)
Seat 5: 504BOY (20,577)
Seat 6: ebancroft (16,496)
Seat 8: theacebear (30,286)
Seat 9: Ty_Money (8,280)
35888853 antes 100
sleppy7 antes 100
ReCuddjnu antes 100
Norin_the_Wary antes 100
504BOY antes 100
ebancroft antes 100
theacebear antes 100
Ty_Money antes 100
theacebear posts the small blind of 400
Ty_Money posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to theacebear [Js As]
35888853 calls 20, and is all in
sleppy7 calls 800
ReCuddjnu folds
Norin_the_Wary folds
504BOY folds
ebancroft calls 800
theacebear has 15 seconds left to act
theacebear raises to 3,000
Ty_Money folds
sleppy7 raises to 21,987, and is all in
ebancroft folds
theacebear: wow
theacebear has 15 seconds left to act
theacebear calls 18,987
sleppy7 shows [Ks Ac]
theacebear shows [Js As]
35888853 shows [Kc 3c]
*** FLOP *** [3d Ts 6c]
*** TURN *** [3d Ts 6c] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [3d Ts 6c 5h] [7s]
sleppy7 shows Ace King high
theacebear shows Ace Jack high
sleppy7 wins the side pot (45,494) with Ace King high
35888853 shows a pair of Threes
35888853 wins the main pot (900) with a pair of Threes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 46,394 Main pot 900. Side pot 45,494. | Rake 0
Board: [3d Ts 6c 5h 7s]
Seat 1: 35888853 showed [Kc 3c] and won (900) with a pair of Threes
Seat 2: sleppy7 showed [Ks Ac] and won (45,494) with Ace King high
Seat 3: ReCuddjnu folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Norin_the_Wary folded before the Flop
Seat 5: 504BOY folded before the Flop
Seat 6: ebancroft (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: theacebear (small blind) showed [Js As] and lost with Ace Jack high
Seat 9: Ty_Money (big blind) folded before the Flop
 
skoldpadda

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Your effective M is about 15 (accounting for antes and table size). Why risk it all here with just AJs? You are calling the all-in as well which is even worse.
 
Effexor

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The raise PF was fine since you are out of position, nows the time to try and take down the pot. Calling the limp / reraise all in was a mistake. Usually you'll be up against a big pair like AA or KK, and on occasion a smaller pocket pair. The point being, nothing that AJs dominates will usually make this type of move.
 
royalburrito24

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yes you made a mistake,
you played AJ

so many times i see that hand get people out of tournaments...

its sickening
 
Genso Hikki

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Raising with Ace/Jack is fine, but once you've been re-raised it can be a deadly hand. It's easily dominated by ace/king and ace/queen, not to mention the fact it doesn't seem you even considered you could be up against a big pair.
 
TubaMark316

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Yeah, raising with A-J is all right...but when someone goes OVER the top of you...you have to put them on something better...and if someone else is going to go all in...let them take them out and you can get the person on the next hand...

Oh well!:)
 
brown110

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I agree... You weren't all that invested in that pot, theres no reason you couldn't of gotten away from the hand. He's only re-raising with a hand that has you dominated, or at best youre looking at a coinflip. Fold and live to fight another day.
 
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Yes - two mistakes actually. Calling the all in is the second one - most hands that would move all in in this situation have you beat. The first mistake was the raise from out of position. You were going to get a cheap flop, and with one player all in it is possible that it would be checked down, giving you a free look at the turn and river as well. Making the raise only gives the better hand a chance and a reason to push.
 
ChuckTs

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A limp-raise is rarely a hand that AJ has beat unless you're up against a maniac. Even then you're racing against small pairs a lot anyways.
 
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