How Bad Did I Play This? 2 Pair On Flop

iMaGiN.

iMaGiN.

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pokerstars Game #17660144405: Tournament #89549521, $3.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/05/24 - 14:47:50 (ET)
Table '89549521 1' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: gdgd32 (1330 in chips)
Seat 3: uchipiruchi (930 in chips)
Seat 4: enzopisa (1450 in chips)
Seat 5: SPYRO75 (2800 in chips)
Seat 6: RussiaNAcE13 (2490 in chips)
RussiaNAcE13: posts small blind 10
gdgd32: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RussiaNAcE13 [5h Ac]
uchipiruchi: folds
enzopisa: calls 20
SPYRO75: calls 20
RussiaNAcE13: raises 70 to 90
gdgd32: folds
enzopisa: folds
SPYRO75: calls 70
*** FLOP *** [4c As 5s]
RussiaNAcE13: checks
SPYRO75: checks
*** TURN *** [4c As 5s] [8d]
RussiaNAcE13: bets 120
SPYRO75: calls 120
*** RIVER *** [4c As 5s 8d] [4d]
RussiaNAcE13: bets 300
SPYRO75: calls 300
*** SHOW DOWN ***
RussiaNAcE13: shows [5h Ac] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
SPYRO75: shows [Ah 8s] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
SPYRO75 collected 1060 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1060 | Rake 0
Board [4c As 5s 8d 4d]
Seat 2: gdgd32 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: uchipiruchi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: enzopisa folded before Flop
Seat 5: SPYRO75 (button) showed [Ah 8s] and won (1060) with two pair, Aces and Eights
Seat 6: RussiaNAcE13 (small blind) showed [5h Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fives
 
rob5775

rob5775

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Bet out on the flop. Checking is a bad idea for a couple reasons:

1) If he (or she) has an ace in their hand they will call you down at a statistical disadvantage.

2) A limp/call preflop represents a weak holding and may well fit the draws on the board (flush/straight). Checking gives them a opportunity to see a free card and draw out on you. Make them pay to see a draw.

3) And if villain has a medium pocket pair, they may think you are bluffing at the ace and call you down anyway.

With the way this hand progressed you would make more money betting out then trying to slowplay it or going for the check/raise on the flop. If it missed villain then he won't bet behind, and if he has a draw he might be likely to check behind also (as he appears passive).

As far as the 8 goes on the turn... oh well, that's poker.:)
 
iMaGiN.

iMaGiN.

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Yea thats what I figured I shoulda done. Thanks.
 
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helton4lyfe

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u shouldve bet after the flop, just knowing what u had, but knowing that the turn actually gave him two pair and being that he wasnt going to fold his ace eight because you didnt raise preflop you actually played it pretty well because the turn gave him his two pair also so I think you played this hand perfect you lost the minimal amount in my opinion great job I like how you didnt raise on the river. (you can't lose what you don't put in the middle....
 
theskillzdatklls

theskillzdatklls

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there's a few times to slow play, and any weak 2ps ARE NOT THEM. i've learned this so many times. if flop is J 7 3, and you hold 73, get the money in asap. same goes for that flop - the 5 can be so easily owned it ain't funny. in a game like that tho, who knows, it may not have made a difference unless he was a very smart player - good enough to lay down A8.
 
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helton4lyfe

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you have to think tho after the flop is it worth risking your whole chip stake to run up against someone who limped with a low pocket pair because you didnt raise preflop to protect your hand and they hit trips on the flop and know your dead in the water..
 
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