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NineLions

NineLions

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Thanks to Tos for taking the time to review these for me.


As I mentioned to him, I normally just play the cheapest SnGs for low pressure entertainment, but I've noticed I'm playing more of them lately so I thought I would try moving up a bit so that at least I get some value out of playing.


So, I sent him my first two stabs at a higher level. Didn't survive very long in the first one.


full tilt poker Game #4104533358: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (31181270), Table 1 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:09:46 ET - 2007/11/08
Seat 2: XMr-MemphisX (1,930)
Seat 3: holdin2s (2,695)
Seat 4: frank1128 (725)
Seat 5: achiever one (795)
Seat 6: NineLions (1,215)
Seat 7: route66trucker (4,835)
Seat 9: studs1960 (1,305)
route66trucker posts the small blind of 30
studs1960 posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NineLions [Ts Kd]
XMr-MemphisX folds
holdin2s folds
frank1128 folds
achiever one folds
NineLions has 15 seconds left to act
NineLions raises to 200
route66trucker has 15 seconds left to act
route66trucker folds
studs1960 calls 140
*** FLOP *** [Jc Td 7s]
studs1960 checks
NineLions bets 250
studs1960 calls 250
*** TURN *** [Jc Td 7s] [Qd]
studs1960 checks
NineLions checks
*** RIVER *** [Jc Td 7s Qd] [6c]
studs1960 bets 780
NineLions has 15 seconds left to act
NineLions has requested TIME
NineLions folds
Uncalled bet of 780 returned to studs1960
studs1960 shows [Ac Kh] a straight, Ace high
studs1960 wins the pot (930)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 930 | Rake 0
Board: [Jc Td 7s Qd 6c]
Seat 2: XMr-MemphisX didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: holdin2s didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: frank1128 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: achiever one didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: NineLions (button) folded on the River
Seat 7: route66trucker (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: studs1960 (big blind) collected (930)

-----I don't have a problem with this line at all.-----
Yep, and nice of him to show everyone he doesn't repop AK preflop but will call the flop bet with a gutshot + overcards. He was in a good situation though as I could have been c-betting, and since I've only paired the second high card I'm not betting the turn so he'll get to see free cards.

Full Tilt poker game #4104556850: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (31181270), Table 1 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:12:07 ET - 2007/11/08
Seat 2: XMr-MemphisX (1,870)
Seat 3: holdin2s (3,510)
Seat 5: achiever one (795)
Seat 6: NineLions (765)
Seat 7: route66trucker (4,805)
Seat 9: studs1960 (1,755)
XMr-MemphisX posts the small blind of 30
holdin2s posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NineLions [Ad Jc]
achiever one folds
NineLions raises to 765, and is all in
route66trucker folds
studs1960 folds
XMr-MemphisX calls 735
holdin2s folds
NineLions shows [Ad Jc]
XMr-MemphisX shows [Jh Js]
*** FLOP *** [7s 9s Kh]
*** TURN *** [7s 9s Kh] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [7s 9s Kh 3s] [Qd]
NineLions shows Ace King high
XMr-MemphisX shows a pair of Jacks
XMr-MemphisX wins the pot (1,590) with a pair of Jacks
NineLions stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,590 | Rake 0
Board: [7s 9s Kh 3s Qd]
Seat 2: XMr-MemphisX (small blind) showed [Jh Js] and won (1,590) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 3: holdin2s (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: achiever one didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: NineLions showed [Ad Jc] and lost with Ace King high
Seat 7: route66trucker didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: studs1960 (button) didn't bet (folded)

-----I actually don't like the preflop shove. I think you are deep enough
here to make a standard bet to 180. As played I think you would have gotten it all in preflop anyway.-----


This is a good example of how even with playing this tourney without any
big mistakes that you can and will go out early. VARIANCE, VARIANCE, VARIANCE.

Yeah, the blinds were only 30/60 yet so it's a little early for stealing/panicing. Not making excuses, but I think it was a combination of playing at a new level, not being used to being at 13 BBs so early, and having a hand that I could get bet off the flop with so I wanted to see all the cards.
 
NineLions

NineLions

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Second SnG

Full Tilt Poker Game #4104747007: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (31182877), Table 1 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:31:59 ET - 2007/11/08
Seat 1: CellTherapy (2,030)
Seat 4: NineLions (1,440)
Seat 5: tkock02 (1,150)
Seat 6: jeff1139 (1,480)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (3,125)
Seat 9: E Street Fan (4,275)
NineLions posts the small blind of 30
tkock02 posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NineLions [2d 2c]
jeff1139 has 15 seconds left to act
bigjack32004: E love the Mute button
jeff1139 folds
bigjack32004 folds
E Street Fan folds
CellTherapy folds
NineLions raises to 120
tkock02 raises to 180
NineLions calls 60
*** FLOP *** [6d Qs 3s]
NineLions checks
tkock02 bets 970, and is all in
NineLions folds
Uncalled bet of 970 returned to tkock02
tkock02 mucks
tkock02 wins the pot (360)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 360 | Rake 0
Board: [6d Qs 3s]
Seat 1: CellTherapy (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: NineLions (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: tkock02 (big blind) collected (360), mucked
Seat 6: jeff1139 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: E Street Fan didn't bet (folded)

-----I like the raise into an unopened pot, but don't like the amount. A mini-raise from the small blind screams blind steal to me. I don't mind the
call of the mini-reraise for set mining value. As played check/folding
the flop is pretty standard.-----

I don't usually minraise; I have problems at FT because I don't like the FT slider; this may have been one of those times that something went sideways.

I'm not sure about calling the minreraise, but it looks pretty weak to fold at that point.



Full Tilt Poker Game #4104789787: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (31182877), Table 1 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:36:33 ET - 2007/11/08
Seat 1: CellTherapy (2,325)
Seat 4: NineLions (1,170)
Seat 5: tkock02 (1,240)
Seat 6: jeff1139 (1,265)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (3,430)
Seat 9: E Street Fan (4,070)
jeff1139 posts the small blind of 30
bigjack32004 posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NineLions [As 6s]
E Street Fan folds
CellTherapy calls 60
NineLions calls 60
tkock02 folds
jeff1139 calls 30
bigjack32004 checks
*** FLOP *** [Ah 7s Ts]
jeff1139 has 15 seconds left to act
jeff1139 checks
bigjack32004 checks
CellTherapy bets 240
NineLions calls 240
jeff1139 folds
bigjack32004 folds
*** TURN *** [Ah 7s Ts] [5h]
CellTherapy bets 870
NineLions calls 870, and is all in
CellTherapy shows [Jh Ac]
NineLions shows [As 6s]
*** RIVER *** [Ah 7s Ts 5h] [Ks]
CellTherapy shows a pair of Aces
NineLions shows a flush, Ace high
NineLions wins the pot (2,460) with a flush, Ace high
The blinds are now 40/80
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,460 | Rake 0
Board: [Ah 7s Ts 5h Ks]
Seat 1: CellTherapy showed [Jh Ac] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: NineLions showed [As 6s] and won (2,460) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: tkock02 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: jeff1139 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: E Street Fan didn't bet (folded)

-----I shove this flop almost 100% of the time. I don't like having to make
the marginal turn call when we don't hit.-----

Def agreed. It's the first thing that came to mind when I got to the turn.


Full Tilt Poker Game #4104821902: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (31182877), Table 1 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:40:02 ET - 2007/11/08
Seat 1: CellTherapy (1,275)
Seat 4: NineLions (2,380)
Seat 5: tkock02 (1,160)
Seat 6: jeff1139 (965)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (3,810)
Seat 9: E Street Fan (3,910)
NineLions posts the small blind of 40
tkock02 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NineLions [Kd Ks]
jeff1139 folds
bigjack32004 folds
E Street Fan folds
CellTherapy has 15 seconds left to act
CellTherapy calls 80
bigjack32004 has been disconnected
NineLions has 15 seconds left to act
NineLions raises to 240
tkock02 calls 160
bigjack32004 has reconnected
CellTherapy calls 160
*** FLOP *** [3h 4s 3c]
NineLions bets 640
tkock02 raises to 920, and is all in
CellTherapy folds
NineLions calls 280
tkock02 shows [As Ad]
NineLions shows [Kd Ks]
*** TURN *** [3h 4s 3c] [Jd]
*** RIVER *** [3h 4s 3c Jd] [6c]
tkock02 shows two pair, Aces and Threes
NineLions shows two pair, Kings and Threes
tkock02 wins the pot (2,560) with two pair, Aces and Threes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,560 | Rake 0
Board: [3h 4s 3c Jd 6c]
Seat 1: CellTherapy (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: NineLions (small blind) showed [Kd Ks] and lost with two pair, Kings and Threes
Seat 5: tkock02 (big blind) showed [As Ad] and won (2,560) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 6: jeff1139 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: E Street Fan didn't bet (folded)

-----Standard play. Nothing you can really do about hands like this.-----


Full Tilt Poker Game #4104866938: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (31182877), Table 1 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:45:07 ET - 2007/11/08
Seat 1: CellTherapy (2,310)
Seat 4: NineLions (1,070)
Seat 5: tkock02 (2,590)
Seat 6: jeff1139 (725)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (2,935)
Seat 9: E Street Fan (3,870)
tkock02 posts the small blind of 50
jeff1139 posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NineLions [Jd Tc]
bigjack32004 folds
E Street Fan folds
CellTherapy folds
NineLions raises to 1,070, and is all in
tkock02 folds
jeff1139 has 15 seconds left to act
jeff1139 folds
Uncalled bet of 970 returned to NineLions
NineLions mucks
NineLions wins the pot (250)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 250 | Rake 0
Seat 1: CellTherapy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: NineLions (button) collected (250), mucked
Seat 5: tkock02 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: jeff1139 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: bigjack32004 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: E Street Fan didn't bet (folded)

-----This is just an OK shove to me. This would be at the very bottom of
my shoving range. I actually think we have enough chips to wait for a better hand. This is a great spot so meh.-----

Bottom of my shoving range here too. Position played a part, plus I hadn't played for a few hands so when something marginal like this comes to me and I've been quiet for a bit I like to use it, largely in case nothing else as good shows up for a while afterwards.


Full Tilt Poker Game #4104909822: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (31182877), Table 1 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:50:01 ET - 2007/11/08
Seat 1: CellTherapy (2,160)
Seat 4: NineLions (1,060)
Seat 5: tkock02 (2,900)
Seat 6: jeff1139 (1,125)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (2,235)
Seat 9: E Street Fan (4,020)
tkock02 posts the small blind of 60
jeff1139 posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NineLions [Qs 5s]
bigjack32004 folds
E Street Fan folds
CellTherapy folds
NineLions folds
tkock02 calls 60
jeff1139 checks
*** FLOP *** [4s Kd 4d]
tkock02 checks
jeff1139 checks
*** TURN *** [4s Kd 4d] [Tc]
tkock02 bets 120
jeff1139 folds
Uncalled bet of 120 returned to tkock02
tkock02 mucks
tkock02 wins the pot (240)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 240 | Rake 0
Board: [4s Kd 4d Tc]
Seat 1: CellTherapy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: NineLions (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: tkock02 (small blind) collected (240), mucked
Seat 6: jeff1139 (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 8: bigjack32004 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: E Street Fan didn't bet (folded)

-----This would have been a good oppurtunity to steal. I would have bet
out 300.-----

In don't mind pushing here, but the marginal hand plus the fact I pushed last orbit in this same position lead me to fold this one.


Full Tilt Poker Game #4104939488: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (31182877), Table 1 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:53:28 ET - 2007/11/08
Seat 1: CellTherapy (1,960)
Seat 4: NineLions (940)
Seat 5: tkock02 (3,020)
Seat 6: jeff1139 (1,360)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (2,555)
Seat 9: E Street Fan (3,665)
NineLions posts the small blind of 60
tkock02 posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NineLions [Kd Td]
jeff1139 folds
bigjack32004 folds
E Street Fan raises to 325
CellTherapy folds
NineLions has 15 seconds left to act
NineLions folds
tkock02 folds
Uncalled bet of 205 returned to E Street Fan
E Street Fan mucks
E Street Fan wins the pot (300)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 300 | Rake 0
Seat 1: CellTherapy (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: NineLions (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: tkock02 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: jeff1139 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: E Street Fan collected (300), mucked

-----Tough spot. I don't mind the fold. I also wouldn't have minded shoving.-----

The SnGs I've played before at lower levels there is almost no fold equity when anyone raises once the blinds are high unless both players have fairly big stacks. I'm not sure how much that is the case here, and I just decided to wait for another hand, but I know what you mean.

Full Tilt Poker Game #4104985687: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (31182877), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:58:57 ET - 2007/11/08
Seat 1: CellTherapy (1,210)
Seat 4: NineLions (2,840)
Seat 5: tkock02 (3,050)
Seat 6: jeff1139 (700)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (1,795)
Seat 9: E Street Fan (3,905)
CellTherapy posts the small blind of 80
NineLions posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NineLions [6s 7c]
tkock02 folds
jeff1139 folds
bigjack32004 calls 160
E Street Fan folds
CellTherapy folds
NineLions checks
*** FLOP *** [3d 8h 4d]
NineLions bets 200
bigjack32004 folds
Uncalled bet of 200 returned to NineLions
NineLions mucks
NineLions wins the pot (400)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 400 | Rake 0
Board: [3d 8h 4d]
Seat 1: CellTherapy (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: NineLions (big blind) collected (400), mucked
Seat 5: tkock02 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: jeff1139 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: E Street Fan (button) didn't bet (folded)

-----Betting this type of flop after limping from the BB is a very good play.
I like this and do not use this play enough in my own game. Well played sir.-----

Ty. The only reason I posted this one is because I try to keep in mind something from HOH about HU, if you check the flop (non-dangerous) without a cr in mind, you're giving up the pot because the opponent should bet. Or something like that; my memory is not so precise anymore :)


Full Tilt Poker Game #4104999579: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (31182877), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:00:37 ET - 2007/11/08
Seat 1: CellTherapy (1,370)
Seat 4: NineLions (3,000)
Seat 5: tkock02 (2,810)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (1,235)
Seat 9: E Street Fan (5,085)
E Street Fan posts the small blind of 80
CellTherapy posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NineLions [As Jc]
NineLions raises to 400
tkock02 has 15 seconds left to act
tkock02 calls 400
bigjack32004 folds
E Street Fan folds
CellTherapy folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd Jd 5h]
NineLions bets 600
tkock02 raises to 2,410, and is all in
NineLions has 15 seconds left to act
NineLions: hmmm, AJ
NineLions folds
Uncalled bet of 1,810 returned to tkock02
tkock02 mucks
tkock02 wins the pot (2,240)
The blinds are now 100/200
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,240 | Rake 0
Board: [Kd Jd 5h]
Seat 1: CellTherapy (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: NineLions folded on the Flop
Seat 5: tkock02 collected (2,240), mucked
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: E Street Fan (small blind) folded before the Flop

-----Another standard play that turns into a very tough decision. I agree with the fold, we are behind here more often than not.-----

I'd appreciate comments on this one. It's not uncommon to push with air with the opponent thinking "he's c-betting and can't call this unless he's paired the K or has AA", which I didn't and folded. I thought there's too much of a chance he's got a K, but he may also have a J or even a 5 or nothing.
 
tosborn

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Full Tilt Poker Game #4104999579: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (31182877), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:00:37 ET - 2007/11/08
Seat 1: CellTherapy (1,370)
Seat 4: NineLions (3,000)
Seat 5: tkock02 (2,810)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (1,235)
Seat 9: E Street Fan (5,085)
E Street Fan posts the small blind of 80
CellTherapy posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NineLions [As Jc]
NineLions raises to 400
tkock02 has 15 seconds left to act
tkock02 calls 400
bigjack32004 folds
E Street Fan folds
CellTherapy folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd Jd 5h]
NineLions bets 600
tkock02 raises to 2,410, and is all in
NineLions has 15 seconds left to act
NineLions: hmmm, AJ
NineLions folds
Uncalled bet of 1,810 returned to tkock02
tkock02 mucks
tkock02 wins the pot (2,240)
The blinds are now 100/200
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,240 | Rake 0
Board: [Kd Jd 5h]
Seat 1: CellTherapy (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: NineLions folded on the Flop
Seat 5: tkock02 collected (2,240), mucked
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: E Street Fan (small blind) folded before the Flop

-----Another standard play that turns into a very tough decision. I agree with the fold, we are behind here more often than not.-----

I'd appreciate comments on this one. It's not uncommon to push with air with the opponent thinking "he's c-betting and can't call this unless he's paired the K or has AA", which I didn't and folded. I thought there's too much of a chance he's got a K, but he may also have a J or even a 5 or nothing.

I'll give you my thought process as I was reading through this hand. I think we can all agree that your preflop bet and flop continuation bet were standard plays, so let's take a look at the call that you were faced with.

If I remember correctly this villain had not stepped out of line much and probably was a pretty decent player. You are correct that he also probably thought that there was a decent chance that you were just making a continuation bet, but, this flop is scary for him as well.

There are straight, flush, straight flush, two pair possibilities that are squarely in both of your ranges. He needed a big hand to come over the top like this. I really think that you are looking at a paired K or a minimum of a combo draw here like always. I can't see villain calling the preflop raise with anything that didn't catch part of this flop.

Although this hand makes a good sized dent in our stack by folding we are still in ok shape.

Villain has told us that his hand is better than a pair of J's so why should we not believe him?
 
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Full Tilt Poker Game #4104789787: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (31182877), Table 1 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:36:33 ET - 2007/11/08
Seat 1: CellTherapy (2,325)
Seat 4: NineLions (1,170)
Seat 5: tkock02 (1,240)
Seat 6: jeff1139 (1,265)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (3,430)
Seat 9: E Street Fan (4,070)
jeff1139 posts the small blind of 30
bigjack32004 posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NineLions [As 6s]
E Street Fan folds
CellTherapy calls 60
NineLions calls 60
tkock02 folds
jeff1139 calls 30
bigjack32004 checks
*** FLOP *** [Ah 7s Ts]
jeff1139 has 15 seconds left to act
jeff1139 checks
bigjack32004 checks
CellTherapy bets 240
NineLions calls 240
jeff1139 folds
bigjack32004 folds
*** TURN *** [Ah 7s Ts] 5♥
CellTherapy bets 870
NineLions calls 870, and is all in
CellTherapy shows [Jh Ac]
NineLions shows [As 6s]
*** RIVER *** [Ah 7s Ts 5h] K♠
CellTherapy shows a pair of Aces
NineLions shows a flush, Ace high
NineLions wins the pot (2,460) with a flush, Ace high
The blinds are now 40/80
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,460 | Rake 0
Board: [Ah 7s Ts 5h Ks]
Seat 1: CellTherapy showed [Jh Ac] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: NineLions showed [As 6s] and won (2,460) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: tkock02 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: jeff1139 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: E Street Fan didn't bet (folded)

-----I shove this flop almost 100% of the time. I don't like having to make
the marginal turn call when we don't hit.-----

Def agreed. It's the first thing that came to mind when I got to the turn.

Really don't like the PF play here. I think we're in a pretty awkward stack position; we're too deep to be tossing hands like these every time, but not deep enough to be limping IMO.

I fold this the majority of the time PF. We'll often miss the flop, and will also get ourselves into a lot of trouble when we do hit an ace.


Full Tilt Poker Game #4104866938: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (31182877), Table 1 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:45:07 ET - 2007/11/08
Seat 1: CellTherapy (2,310)
Seat 4: NineLions (1,070)
Seat 5: tkock02 (2,590)
Seat 6: jeff1139 (725)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (2,935)
Seat 9: E Street Fan (3,870)
tkock02 posts the small blind of 50
jeff1139 posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NineLions [Jd Tc]
bigjack32004 folds
E Street Fan folds
CellTherapy folds
NineLions raises to 1,070, and is all in
tkock02 folds
jeff1139 has 15 seconds left to act
jeff1139 folds
Uncalled bet of 970 returned to NineLions
NineLions mucks
NineLions wins the pot (250)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 250 | Rake 0
Seat 1: CellTherapy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: NineLions (button) collected (250), mucked
Seat 5: tkock02 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: jeff1139 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: bigjack32004 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: E Street Fan didn't bet (folded)

-----This is just an OK shove to me. This would be at the very bottom of
my shoving range. I actually think we have enough chips to wait for a better hand. This is a great spot so meh.-----

Bottom of my shoving range here too. Position played a part, plus I hadn't played for a few hands so when something marginal like this comes to me and I've been quiet for a bit I like to use it, largely in case nothing else as good shows up for a while afterwards.

I liked it. It is obviously a marginal hand, but isn't as often dominated as a hand like A7 or KT. I'm pushing here a good chunk of the time if the blinds are weak enough.


Full Tilt Poker Game #4104909822: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (31182877), Table 1 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:50:01 ET - 2007/11/08
Seat 1: CellTherapy (2,160)
Seat 4: NineLions (1,060)
Seat 5: tkock02 (2,900)
Seat 6: jeff1139 (1,125)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (2,235)
Seat 9: E Street Fan (4,020)
tkock02 posts the small blind of 60
jeff1139 posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NineLions [Qs 5s]
bigjack32004 folds
E Street Fan folds
CellTherapy folds
NineLions folds
tkock02 calls 60
jeff1139 checks
*** FLOP *** [4s Kd 4d]
tkock02 checks
jeff1139 checks
*** TURN *** [4s Kd 4d] [Tc]
tkock02 bets 120
jeff1139 folds
Uncalled bet of 120 returned to tkock02
tkock02 mucks
tkock02 wins the pot (240)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 240 | Rake 0
Board: [4s Kd 4d Tc]
Seat 1: CellTherapy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: NineLions (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: tkock02 (small blind) collected (240), mucked
Seat 6: jeff1139 (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 8: bigjack32004 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: E Street Fan didn't bet (folded)

-----This would have been a good oppurtunity to steal. I would have bet
out 300.-----

In don't mind pushing here, but the marginal hand plus the fact I pushed last orbit in this same position lead me to fold this one.

Raising to 300 is pretty bad. We're only sitting on like 9 BBs; if we put in 300 we'll be left with 6BBs, and a very ugly decision if we get reraised or called and checked to on the flop.

I shove this occasionally if the conditions are right, but it sounds like they might be expecting a steal from you now, so folding's fine.


Full Tilt Poker Game #4104939488: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (31182877), Table 1 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:53:28 ET - 2007/11/08
Seat 1: CellTherapy (1,960)
Seat 4: NineLions (940)
Seat 5: tkock02 (3,020)
Seat 6: jeff1139 (1,360)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (2,555)
Seat 9: E Street Fan (3,665)
NineLions posts the small blind of 60
tkock02 posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NineLions [Kd Td]
jeff1139 folds
bigjack32004 folds
E Street Fan raises to 325
CellTherapy folds
NineLions has 15 seconds left to act
NineLions folds
tkock02 folds
Uncalled bet of 205 returned to E Street Fan
E Street Fan mucks
E Street Fan wins the pot (300)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 300 | Rake 0
Seat 1: CellTherapy (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: NineLions (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: tkock02 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: jeff1139 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: E Street Fan collected (300), mucked

-----Tough spot. I don't mind the fold. I also wouldn't have minded shoving.-----

The SnGs I've played before at lower levels there is almost no fold equity when anyone raises once the blinds are high unless both players have fairly big stacks. I'm not sure how much that is the case here, and I just decided to wait for another hand, but I know what you mean.

I think it's fine; no FE and a pretty marginal hand and it's not the greatest spot. I happily push much worse hands as first-in.


Full Tilt Poker Game #4104999579: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (31182877), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:00:37 ET - 2007/11/08
Seat 1: CellTherapy (1,370)
Seat 4: NineLions (3,000)
Seat 5: tkock02 (2,810)
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (1,235)
Seat 9: E Street Fan (5,085)
E Street Fan posts the small blind of 80
CellTherapy posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NineLions [As Jc]
NineLions raises to 400
tkock02 has 15 seconds left to act
tkock02 calls 400
bigjack32004 folds
E Street Fan folds
CellTherapy folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd Jd 5h]
NineLions bets 600
tkock02 raises to 2,410, and is all in
NineLions has 15 seconds left to act
NineLions: hmmm, AJ
NineLions folds
Uncalled bet of 1,810 returned to tkock02
tkock02 mucks
tkock02 wins the pot (2,240)
The blinds are now 100/200
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,240 | Rake 0
Board: [Kd Jd 5h]
Seat 1: CellTherapy (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: NineLions folded on the Flop
Seat 5: tkock02 collected (2,240), mucked
Seat 8: bigjack32004 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: E Street Fan (small blind) folded before the Flop

-----Another standard play that turns into a very tough decision. I agree with the fold, we are behind here more often than not.-----

I'd appreciate comments on this one. It's not uncommon to push with air with the opponent thinking "he's c-betting and can't call this unless he's paired the K or has AA", which I didn't and folded. I thought there's too much of a chance he's got a K, but he may also have a J or even a 5 or nothing.

I think this is pretty standard, NL. I myself often think I'm being bluffed in spots like this, and I frequently make dumb curiosity calls that end up seeing AK or a slowplayed AA or even some Kx and I'm done. I think it's a standard fold without a very good read.
 
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Thanks for the review of the review, Chuck.
 
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