$Freeroll NLHE MTT: Can we actually 4bet AQo here?

naruto_miu

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I'm fairly certain I'm ahead of the 3 bettor in this case 90% sure of that (I've seen them 3bet shove every single Ax hand possible), I mean they could have woken up with a real monster but if that is the case so be it (part of the game).

Now the real issue for me was the 2 other big stacks that flatted the first players shove for 1900+ I mean they are both calling stations (So I'm not worried they woke up with monster hands), but more so worried that they actually call and we whiff the flop and they connect with there bunk hands and thus we are out (Not saying I wouldn't mind the call btw, just saying that after spending 2.5 hours in this game I was hoping If I do end up losing to lose with a bigger/better starting hand than AQ is all..


So now the question I pose to you all is, is AQo acceptable play to 4bet in this case or not?

Also would it be acceptable to fold AQo in this case (As I didn't personally think this was the option vs the 3 bettor but was somewhat leery of the other 2 big stacks+the rest of the table left to act after me...

poker stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200.00/t400.00 Blinds - 9 players - View hand 2295412
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CO: t8800.00 22 BBs - VPIP: 53, PFR: 37, 3B: 50, AF: Infinity, Hands: 19

Hero (BTN): t25935.00

SB: t22945.00 57.36 BBs - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: NaN, AF: NaN, Hands: 5

BB: t2377.00 5.94 BBs - VPIP: 26, PFR: 1, 3B: 4, AF: 0.6, Hands: 72

UTG: t8669.00 21.67 BBs - VPIP: 9, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 22

UTG+1: t6945.00 17.36 BBs - VPIP: 49, PFR: 8, 3B: 9, AF: 0.3, Hands: 37

UTG+2: t2001.00 5.00 BBs - VPIP: 47, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 13.0, Hands: 32

MP1: t54223.00 135.56 BBs - VPIP: 59, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 0.4, Hands: 29

MP2: t42210.00 105.53 BBs - VPIP: 36, PFR: 4, 3B: 7, AF: 3.5, Hands: 53




Pre Flop: (t600) Hero is BTN with A :heart: Q :club:
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t1921, MP1 calls t1921, MP2 calls t1921, CO raises to t8720, Hero?


Oh 1 more thing, the only reason why I ask the question, is because someone on here stated to me once that they don't like high variance routes in certain cases, so by me actually 4bet shoving AQo wouldn't that constitute a high variance route and thus being a negative play on my part? Even though I'm fairly certain I'm ahead of the 3 bettor in this case, but unsure about the rest of the player SB/BB and the other 2 callers in the hand
 
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You should try to do something with Nash.

And who was the nit who stated that!
 
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I think is better fold, in this situation!
In standard, i believe the 4bet is good with QQ+ only. Maybe AKs. But with any information off vilain CO and information of SB, i think is ok 4bet with AQo, assuming that the SB is fold.
 
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Easy fold - find a better spot. You have a ship, two flats (by big stacks) and then a reship. So, you're guaranteed a minimum of 3-way action (if you get involved) and I can almost guarantee a big stack will feel priced in if you 4-bet.
 
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Looking at our stack size plus others at the table, all the VPIP people are playing I think we can just fold and that's only because we have a 50bb stack and it would be gross to 4B ISO to face a shove from the SB/BB,or to flat 20bb even if we're ahead of CO shoving range and then have SB/BB raise us. Really, really frustrating given how loose CO seems but because of the 2 callers on 20bb stacks + the bigger stacks in blinds, I think we'll just end up in a huge pot not knowing what to do.

Just wait for a better spot imo, this table seems terrible given all their VPIP they're playing lol.
 
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