$Freeroll NLHE MTT: Pocket Dueces call from UTG - Should have folded?

[skrsh76]

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, 0 Tournament, 600/1,200 Blinds 125 Ante (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com
saw flop | saw showdown

MP2 (t34,012)
CO (t53,155)
Button (t14,905)
SB (t31,033)
BB (t19,800)
Hero (UTG) (t23,950)
UTG+1 (t17,632)
MP1 (t13,855)

Hero's M: 8.55

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 2♣, 2♥

Hero raises to t3,600, UTG+1 raises to t17,507 (All-In), 6 folds, Hero calls t13,907

Flop: (t37,814) 9♦, 3♥, A♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t37,814) Q♣ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t37,814) 2♦ (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: t37,814
Main pot: t37,814 between Hero and UTG+1, won by UTG+1

[div]
Hero had 2♣, 2♥ (three of a kind, twos).
UTG+1 had A♥, A♣ (three of a kind, Aces).
Outcome: UTG+1 won t37,814
[/div]

 

[baudib1]

yes standard fold

 

[trekmaster]

Yea believe I would have had to let this one go facing that raise.

 

[soncheebs]

I wouldn't of even raised with it...fold preflop.

 

[the lab man]

Easy auto fold

 

[Propane Goat]

The problem with 22 is that hitting a set is often your only salvation, because you're crushed by any higher pocket pair and pretty much flipping against everything else. I would have folded this hand pre also.

As far as playing 22 I might limp on the button or in the cutoff in a pot with multiple limpers to see if I could hit a set. If I had a decent size stack I would consider raising from the button or SB in an unopened pot to try and steal the blinds, but otherwise I would just throw this away.

 

[MadMaddie]

Yea believe I would have had to let this one go facing that raise.

His stack is too short to raise this preflop from utg. I think this is any easy fold preflop.

 

[jaworek1405]

IMO it is also fold pre flop. 22 is too weak for me at this level. The best case scenario you have coin flip, the worst case scenario you have only 20%. It is better to wait for other spot like: at least 88+ or better.

 

[tohos]

fold all low PP UTG when blinds are big. If blinds are small enough, like start of tournament, you can limp in and try to hit a set on passive table.
As Propane Goat said, you are not ahead against anything and you're only flipping or crushed. Doesn't play well post flop either. Fold pre.

 

[skrsh76]

Thanks for all your comments.

 

[skrsh76]

Do I have a problem folding lower pairs or is this situation more acceptable?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 0 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com
saw flop | saw showdown
MP2 (t5,615)

MP3 (t1,725)
CO (t7,263)
Button (t6,220)
SB (t1,635)
BB (t13,160)
UTG (t1,380)
UTG+1 (t2,013)
Hero (MP1) (t1,209)
Hero's M: 8.06

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 4♥, 4♣

2 folds, Hero calls t100, MP2 raises to t300, MP3 calls t300, CO calls t300, 3 folds, Hero calls t200

Flop: (t1,350) A♠, A♥, 6♠ (4 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t300, MP3 calls t300, 1 fold, Hero raises to t909 (All-In), MP2 raises to t1,518, 1 fold

Turn: (t3,468) 9♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t3,468) J♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t3,468
Main pot: t3,468 between MP2 and Hero, won by MP2
[spoil]
Hero had 4♥, 4♣ (two pair, Aces and fours).
MP2 had K♠, A♦ (three of a kind, Aces).
Outcome: MP2 won t3,468[/spoil]

 

[Shempstir]

The problem I see is that you have a problem of not folding or just calling with a small pocket pair when the flop shows over cards and your opponent raises.

 

[skiptomyloot]

22 no wrong way to play if you know your opponent well enough.

 

[rivernickels]

I like to think I'd have folded. But I've made worse calls

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

#1 - Stacks aren't really deep enough for you to get cute by raising preflop UTG (and even if they were deeper you'd only really want to be raising it in some very special circumstances). Plus you've represented a far stronger hand than you actually have by raising UTG and then the next guy has shoved over you with the entire rest of the table to act, so he will almost always have a huge hand.

#2 - Your stack is too short to be limping pre, and definitely too short to be calling a raise afterwards. With low pairs you want deep stacks giving you good implied odds to set mine and/or the initiative in the hand and you had neither here. Autofold.

 

[stefffan1]

I would have folded preflop. For me 22 is a weak hand. You need plenty of luck to win the pot win 22 so , you better not play it. That's my opinion.

 

[1bollywood1]

as evrybody . utg fold 22 ont turn . just u could play it if u are the chip of the table and fold to the shove / cg u can play it

 

[DevilMe03]

I think you could call with 2 2 UTG but fold to any preflop raise. Your only salvation is to hit a set on flop else fold to any resistance .

 

[baudib1]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 0 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com
saw flop | saw showdown
MP2 (t5,615)

MP3 (t1,725)
CO (t7,263)
Button (t6,220)
SB (t1,635)
BB (t13,160)
UTG (t1,380)
UTG+1 (t2,013)
Hero (MP1) (t1,209)
Hero's M: 8.06

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 4♥, 4♣

2 folds, Hero calls t100, MP2 raises to t300, MP3 calls t300, CO calls t300, 3 folds, Hero calls t200

Flop: (t1,350) A♠, A♥, 6♠ (4 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t300, MP3 calls t300, 1 fold, Hero raises to t909 (All-In), MP2 raises to t1,518, 1 fold

Turn: (t3,468) 9♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t3,468) J♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t3,468
Main pot: t3,468 between MP2 and Hero, won by MP2
[spoil]
Hero had 4♥, 4♣ (two pair, Aces and fours).
MP2 had K♠, A♦ (three of a kind, Aces).
Outcome: MP2 won t3,468[/spoil]

all in or fold pre, limping is horrible

 

[Loonbat]

A couple things:

I rarely consider raise/fold as an option with 15 or less blinds. So, with the 22 hand, I'm either shipping or folding. Likely folding given you're closer to 15 blinds than 10 blinds and I know I can find an easier spot to chip-up.

44 is a little different - you have fewer people left to act and you have a slightly shorter stack. I prefer a ship over a fold here. The limp/call is pretty awful.