$Freeroll NLHE MTT: Mar.,12 CC Weekly $300

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$Freeroll NLHE MTT: Mar.,12 CC Weekly $300

#1 Are K3o on BB good enough to defend?

pokerstars, Hold'em No Limit - 10/20 - 8 players

hughdhat (UTG): 6,030 (302 bb)
hun4poker (UTG+1): 2,480 (124 bb)
gabryyyel31 (MP): 3,485 (174 bb)
fifille07 (MP+1): 2,835 (142 bb)
thefivevowels (CO): 3,700 (185 bb)
Yn.Rost (BU): 2,940 (147 bb)
PRrock1 (SB): 2,310 (116 bb)
1numismat (BB): 3,220 (161 bb)

Pre-Flop: (30) Hero (1numismat) is BB with K♦ 3♣
1 fold, hun4poker (UTG+1) calls 20, 1 fold, fifille07 (MP+1) calls 20, thefivevowels (CO) calls 20, 1 fold, PRrock1 (SB) raises to 120, 1numismat (BB) - ?

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#2 Another one BB

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - 15/30 - 9 players

GeckoAA (UTG): 2,545 (85 bb)
hughdhat (UTG+1): 5,642 (188 bb)
hun4poker (MP): 2,508 (84 bb)
gabryyyel31 (MP+1): 4,100 (137 bb)
fifille07 (LP): 2,685 (90 bb)
thefivevowels (CO): 3,465 (116 bb)
Yn.Rost (BU): 2,820 (94 bb)
PRrock1 (SB): 2,680 (89 bb)
1numismat (BB): 3,100 (103 bb)

Pre-Flop: (45) Hero (1numismat) is BB with 8♥ 2♣
2 players fold, hun4poker (MP) raises to 105, 5 players fold, 1numismat (BB) - ?

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These are both easy folds pre. First hand you have no connectivity with K3 so it is like you are playing the hand with one card and even if you do get a king, how do we know where we are in the hand? Add in that you are not closing the action either just makes it that much easier of a fold.

Second hand is one of the worst starting hands you could have. Don't get in the habit of thinking you have to defend every time you are deep in the BB. Especially pre ante you should be folding your junk from the BB when there is a decent sized raise in front of you.
 
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In both hands you are facing a very large raise, which mean, you should defend less. Maybe K3 can be defended to a min-raise, especially if there is an ante, which is not the case here. But with a 6x raise you are getting a terrible price, so you need a much stronger hand to continue. The only thing, you have going for you in hand 1, is the fact, you have position on the raiser. But even so I would want at least KJ to continue here, and even that can be kind of questionable, if SB is a tight player, who is only raising premium hands.
 
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I had in mind only one thing about those situations - this is CC freeroll and open raiser can raise wider than usual, sometimes much wider, and raise in range 3-7BB to use fold equity. Much more dangerous in CC freerolls when UTG or MP opens 2-3BB with JJ-AA to slow play and make a trap. So on BB I prefere call, sometimes any two (especially in very beginning and small blinds), to see flop.
 
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I had in mind only one thing about those situations - this is CC freeroll and open raiser can raise wider than usual, sometimes much wider, and raise in range 3-7BB to use fold equity.

In hand 1 I kind of disagree with that. It was a limped pot, and if SB had some kind of marginal hand, why would he not just go for a cheap complete? Especially since he is rarely getting everyone to fold. So I would put SB on a pretty strong range here. Maybe something like 99+, AJ+, KQ.
 
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second hand its an easy fold. im PRrock. in most situations i will be squeezing with a strong hand or at least a middle pair to isolate players. and even if i had a weak hand k3 offsuit is not good enough to make a call... you can try to make a 3 bet light and fold if someone ( me or other players goes all in) .. but since there are many players involved in the pot i wouldnt recommend you to 3 bet light in this scenario.
 
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These are both easy folds pre. First hand you have no connectivity with K3 so it is like you are playing the hand with one card and even if you do get a king, how do we know where we are in the hand? Add in that you are not closing the action either just makes it that much easier of a fold.

Second hand is one of the worst starting hands you could have. Don't get in the habit of thinking you have to defend every time you are deep in the BB. Especially pre ante you should be folding your junk from the BB when there is a decent sized raise in front of you.

In both hands you are facing a very large raise, which mean, you should defend less. Maybe K3 can be defended to a min-raise, especially if there is an ante, which is not the case here. But with a 6x raise you are getting a terrible price, so you need a much stronger hand to continue. The only thing, you have going for you in hand 1, is the fact, you have position on the raiser. But even so I would want at least KJ to continue here, and even that can be kind of questionable, if SB is a tight player, who is only raising premium hands.

In hand 1 I kind of disagree with that. It was a limped pot, and if SB had some kind of marginal hand, why would he not just go for a cheap complete? Especially since he is rarely getting everyone to fold. So I would put SB on a pretty strong range here. Maybe something like 99+, AJ+, KQ.

second hand its an easy fold. im PRrock. in most situations i will be squeezing with a strong hand or at least a middle pair to isolate players. and even if i had a weak hand k3 offsuit is not good enough to make a call... you can try to make a 3 bet light and fold if someone ( me or other players goes all in) .. but since there are many players involved in the pot i wouldnt recommend you to 3 bet light in this scenario.
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https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/8251SXCdP

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https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/8251SYBBn
 
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I don't get these 2. Looks like you can't let go your blind?

If someone making a bet to 6BB when there were 3 limpers, why would it be weaker than 3BB bet? Don't get it. I really think that if he had great combination, he should even raise up here more. Of course he will get the worst position if they all follow him, that's why he should defend his hand, or just take the limping train. So the only question was here, what Rock was helding, and was 6bb raise enough for him to separate himself and his combination that early from others?

The second hand is makes me questioning that if you making a 3.5bb pre-raise from early position, what hands you are making with these exact kind of raise? And if so, do you ever wanted to see a call on with 82o?

I think CC freerolls maybe not the most glorious games on the earth, but as long as the game called poker, you should represent some kind of range, tactics etc. cause the end of the day you are just as the part of it just as your villains, and if you show a great game, they will not only maybe respect your moves in a daily basis, but maybe the field is going to be better. That's my personal opinion, hope it won't attack you, I feel that was some questioning that these freerolls are similar to Casino.org freerolls - and these are not.
 
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